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RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2015-10-31

(2015-10-31, 18:27)bkrieger Wrote: This might be a general Kodi question, but sometimes when streaming videos, the "opening stream" message pops up and stays up even after the video starts playing. Any way to get rid of this?

I never seen this message before. You would have to indicate the addon that is causing the problem for testing.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Talguy - 2015-11-01

I finally figured out my issue in why SVP 4 wouldn't work with DSPlayer but would work with MPC-HC. It was because I have to run Kodi DSPlayer on Windows 10 as an administrator since I run it in portable mode. Once I ran SVP 4 as administrator, it worked with DSPlayer without a problem.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - djoole - 2015-11-01

Hi,

I've got a problem with latest release.
I'm trying to use D3D11 for presentation, but i have huge frame drops and presentation glitches.

- if i let Kodi change the refresh display, no frame drop, FSE used, but refresh is set to 60Hz for 24p content
- if i let madVR change the refresh, refresh is set to 24Hz, but FSE is not used and i have frame drops/presentation glitches.

No problem if i deactivate D3D11 in madVR, but i would like to make it work with D3D11 because there is a huge performance gain over D3D9 which would permit to use more image enhancement..

Here is my config :

Image

Image

Image


Note :
If D3D9 used and madVR set to handle refresh change, FSE is not used but no frame drops
If D3D9 used and Kodi set to handl refresh change, FSE is used and still no frame drops (my actual config since D3D11 doesn't work)


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - djoole - 2015-11-01

(2015-10-30, 18:16)djoole Wrote:
(2015-10-30, 11:23)oldpoem Wrote:
(2015-10-30, 09:08)djoole Wrote: Is there a way to check how stream is flagged (interlaced, ivtc, etc.)?
Mediainfo would tell this. If you see interlaced effect (horizontal line) it's usually bad encoded (encoded interlaced source as progressive without deinterlacing).

Actually you should tick enable yadif deinterlacing with LAVFilters. It'd works with all files with interlaced flag.
OK thanks, i'll check my DVD structure (i guess the VOB files?) with mediainfo, and will check if yadif is activated in LAVFilters.

(2015-10-30, 12:06)huhn Wrote: your file could be flagged wrong or you used IVTC on interlaced content. i saw problems with intel deinterlacing and that's a driver problem.

press control+j and make a screen with the file in question. the madVR OSD will tell me everything i need to know.
I'll do that and will report back, thanks.

Activating yadif in LAVVideo did the trick!
So i guess the videos are well flagged because madVR (CTRL-J) was already saying deinterlacing on, but without yadif it wasn't effective enough..
I wonder how is deinterlacing done when yadif is not activated..


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - gotham_x - 2015-11-01

One question that may seem trivial to most.
DSPlayer: C installed,
I ask, can I install the original version of Kodi + MPC-HC + MPC-BE on a different hard disk: D without going to overwrite the libraries DSPlayer, is it feasible?


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - ashlar - 2015-11-01

(2015-11-01, 10:17)djoole Wrote: I wonder how is deinterlacing done when yadif is not activated..
Through standard DXVA deinterlacing, depending on your graphic card's drivers.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - djoole - 2015-11-01

That what i thought too, but it would mean DXVA deinterlacing doesn't do the job.. I have a nvidia 680GTX


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - XTrojan - 2015-11-01

Will DSPlayer / MadVR support HDR metadata in the future? I know rec2020, 10bit etc all that is supported, but since we're using GPUs limited by Nvidia/AMD to the prosumer cards, is it possible they'll only allow HDR for pro cards as well? I know 10bit is already restricted to pro cards, but jeez.

A card as powerful as 970 that's Quadro costs 4 times as much. I really wonder how UHD Bluray will change the HTPC scene, will MadVR serve any purpose after UHD Brray is out?


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2015-11-01

(2015-11-01, 09:46)djoole Wrote: Hi,

I've got a problem with latest release.
I'm trying to use D3D11 for presentation, but i have huge frame drops and presentation glitches.

- if i let Kodi change the refresh display, no frame drop, FSE used, but refresh is set to 60Hz for 24p content
- if i let madVR change the refresh, refresh is set to 24Hz, but FSE is not used and i have frame drops/presentation glitches.

No problem if i deactivate D3D11 in madVR, but i would like to make it work with D3D11 because there is a huge performance gain over D3D9 which would permit to use more image enhancement..

Here is my config :

Image

Image

Image


Note :
If D3D9 used and madVR set to handle refresh change, FSE is not used but no frame drops
If D3D9 used and Kodi set to handl refresh change, FSE is used and still no frame drops (my actual config since D3D11 doesn't work)


There is no performance gain in madVR settings. Entering and exiting fullscreen exclusive mode will be faster. D3D11 is mostly needed for 10-bit output.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2015-11-01

(2015-11-01, 22:19)XTrojan Wrote: Will DSPlayer / MadVR support HDR metadata in the future? I know rec2020, 10bit etc all that is supported, but since we're using GPUs limited by Nvidia/AMD to the prosumer cards, is it possible they'll only allow HDR for pro cards as well? I know 10bit is already restricted to pro cards, but jeez.

A card as powerful as 970 that's Quadro costs 4 times as much. I really wonder how UHD Bluray will change the HTPC scene, will MadVR serve any purpose after UHD Brray is out?

It seems a guarantee that madVR will support HDR content, although I'm not sure how this works at this point. The program is still being actively developed. HDR would almost certainly become a standard feature of every new graphics card, as even PC content will make use of this technology.

Of course, madVR will always serve a purpose. Even Blu-ray content still has to be scaled and rendered. You can't get a picture on the screen without a video renderer.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Peekstra - 2015-11-02

(2015-11-01, 22:19)XTrojan Wrote: I know 10bit is already restricted to pro cards

Nvidia also supports 10bit output on a normal card since an updated driver release earlier this year. However, in the end you also need to know if your display is able to actually render the image at 10 bit. This can be difficult to know for sure because some displays accept 10bit video but will downsample it to 8 bit thus giving a false impression of it's capabilities.

You can find more info in this thread: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=172128


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - XTrojan - 2015-11-02

(2015-11-02, 17:03)Peekstra Wrote:
(2015-11-01, 22:19)XTrojan Wrote: I know 10bit is already restricted to pro cards

Nvidia also supports 10bit output on a normal card since an updated driver release earlier this year. However, in the end you also need to know if your display is able to actually render the image at 10 bit. This can be difficult to know for sure because some displays accept 10bit video but will downsample it to 8 bit thus giving a false impression of it's capabilities.

You can find more info in this thread: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=172128

How do i get the "10bit" option output? I only have 8bit and 12bit available.
My TV is an 10bit panel (JU7100), I doubt it would downsample as it's latest gen, altough i don't trust Samsung.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Uoppi - 2015-11-02

(2015-10-22, 13:43)aracnoz Wrote: @Uoppi
this "Fixed Kodi Zoom options" it's needed to have in real time the changes made to the rect with kodi's zoom options also when using DSPlayer, there is no way that this it's the cause of the problem

somewhere dsplayer receives the command to set that aspect ratio, with the previous release DSPlayer was ignoring the message to change aspect ratio while playback so why you was not experiencing this problem, but it's not the solution

without a way to reproduce i cannot do anything because i have to see when and from where the message with new rect arrives to dsplayer, maybe it's something related specifically to the addons that you are using because i cannot reproduce this issue with my sources

@aracnoz,

It seems to be precisely the two latest DSPlayer builds that are not receiving the AR message from the stream during playback - not the previous builds.

Previously DSPlayer could read the AR info from the http stream - just like LAV splitter, madVR and DVDPlayer still do - and change AR during playback. Whereas currently even when LAV splitter is set to use stream AR and madVR OSD correctly indicates a switch from 16:9 to 4:3 based on that info, DSPlayer ignores this and continues to display 4:3 (or 1.25:1 according to Kodi's view mode OSD) as stretched to 16:9. Sometimes, but not always, the picture very briefly does change to the right AR but is quickly stretched back to 16:9.

(As there seems to be no way for you to reproduce this, I was also asking if there's any hack or setting to revert back to the previous AR detection behaviour which still worked.)


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Doom10 - 2015-11-03

(2015-11-02, 17:43)XTrojan Wrote: How do i get the "10bit" option output? I only have 8bit and 12bit available.
My TV is an 10bit panel (JU7100), I doubt it would downsample as it's latest gen, altough i don't trust Samsung.

Quote:When I set Madvr to output 10bit, my projector (JVC x35 / RS46) receive a 12bit signal because nvidia driver can't send 10 bit (only 8 or 12bit).
So does it mean that nvidia driver are dithering the signal?

Quote:Just as with audio, zero-padding bitdepth to extend it will never harm the quality.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1721822#post1721822


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - ionutm80 - 2015-11-03

@Warner306

Hi, I have changed a little bit your profile for SD->1080p. I have a GTX 750 TI in my main HTPC. What do you think? I see only some dropped frames at the beginning than it stabilizes, GPU load at 60%.

Profile: "SD"
  • Chroma: super-xbr125 + AR
  • Image: Lanczos3 + AR
  • Double Luma: 1.5x or greater - NNEDI3 64 Neurons
  • Double Chroma: Off
  • Upscaling Refinement: SuperRes (strength: 1, sharpness: 2)
  • Artifact Removal - Debanding: Medium/High
  • Image Enhancements: Off
  • Dithering: Ordered