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RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - tingtong5 - 2016-02-09

(2016-02-09, 12:55)Bjur Wrote: Can anyone please tell why I can't use the current madVR settings I have when upgrading from 15.2 to 16? I get lots of framedrops. What is changed and will it be normal again in final release. I don't want to upgrade graphic card just for updating Kodi and wants to keep my current settings.
I guess we are experiencing the same issue here: GPU load going up after upgrading to kodi 16. I have disabled hardware video decoding in kodi as a workaround, thus increasing cpu load of course.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - tingtong5 - 2016-02-09

(2016-02-09, 03:06)Derek Wrote: I actually agree software decoding works well but i use DXVA2.

I was just playing with DSPlayer Kodi, why has it been discontinued? Didnt last long did it, MPC-HC has madvr and everything else anyway so you could just add it as an external player if you felt so inclined but normal Kodi does the job for me.

I must say tho amazed DSPlayer is gone it looked slick but hey ho life goes on Smile
Ok, so DXVA2 it will be from now on :-)

I might try MPC-HC, defined in kodi as external player. Does this have big consequences as far as integration with kodi goes?

It's pity that dsplayer is no longer developed.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Derek - 2016-02-09

(2016-02-09, 13:04)tingtong5 Wrote: I might try MPC-HC, defined in kodi as external player. Does this have big consequences as far as integration with kodi goes?

There are NO consequences to integrating this in Kodi atall!

This is an awesome guide to get you started imho; being a kodi forum member im sure you've read this although its a DSPlayer Kodi guide but may be of some use.

This my playercorefactory.xml file FYI:

I have a couple of older players i dont really use in here too, i even used to have notepad in here so i could edit files using filemanager within Kodi hehe.

Code:
<playercorefactory>

<players>

<player name="MPC-HC" type="ExternalPlayer" audio="false" video="true">
<filename>C:\Program Files\MPC-HC\MPC-HC.exe</filename>
<args>"{1}" /fullscreen /close</args>
<hidexbmc>false</hidexbmc>
<hideconsole>false</hideconsole>
<warpcursor>none</warpcursor>

</player>

<player name="VLC" type="ExternalPlayer" audio="false" video="true">
<filename>C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe</filename>
<args>"{1}" /fullscreen /close</args>
<hidexbmc>false</hidexbmc>
<hideconsole>false</hideconsole>
<warpcursor>none</warpcursor>

</player>

<player name="Windows Media Player" type="ExternalPlayer" audio="false" video="true">
<filename>C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\wmplayer.exe</filename>
<args>"{1}" /fullscreen /close</args>
<hidexbmc>false</hidexbmc>
<hideconsole>false</hideconsole>
<warpcursor>none</warpcursor>
</player>

</players>

</playercorefactory>
</code>



RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - ashlar - 2016-02-09

(2016-02-09, 03:25)Derek Wrote: Wow just read back the posts i feel for the developer did he get ganged up on by the official kodi team or something?

His efforts were worthy and not unlike any skin or add-on but 100% better what a sad ending, if he's been pushed away some people should be embarrassed and ashamed, if nothing else Kodi has lost an awesome developer i didn't realise Kodi was do elitist hmmm very bad 5h1t.
It's up to you to decide how thigs went. Posts are here to read. I, personally, was really displeased by what happened and always wish for aracnoz to come back.
madVR will go commercial probably but madshi has stated, here too, that there always be a free version with main functionalities.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Derek - 2016-02-09

Yeah ashlar i had no idea there were such bad feelings in the background around this project and this only enhanced the Kodi name; not the latter!

Maybe someone should start a new XBMC (Xcellent Brilliant Media Centre) or such like to avoid copyright of course.

Hard to put a good spin on a severely low point in the development of such great software i can only say araconoz you were an awesome guy and anyone who says otherwise is hugely misguided; for someone to put so much time into something only to be 5h1t on is in my book pathetic and all involved should be ashamed. There's a job for him in Scotland if he ever wanted it thats for real and the hours would be better!

Also i cant get to the bottom of where the RC3 DSPlayer and the 180 page thread went, maybe area 51 has the answers because i have RC3 DSPlayer but its nowhere to be found on the site that i can see.

Maybe the commercial thing had a hand in this i dont know as i do know for the lifecycle which i've been around for since inception has been free to all, i still have a chipped Xbox with XBMC still working (Or i assume it still works).


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Wanilton - 2016-02-09

For RC3 check post in this link...no area 51, in this thread...have git with code source

http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=223175&pid=2236173#pid2236173

Tongue


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Derek - 2016-02-09

Do you were a black suit and tie? Smile hehe

I see the link cheers i have it already but i recall a 180 odd page thread and on page one the link to RC3, someone has gone to great trouble to remove this and all i can say is But why?


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Bjur - 2016-02-09

(2016-02-09, 13:01)tingtong5 Wrote:
(2016-02-09, 12:55)Bjur Wrote: Can anyone please tell why I can't use the current madVR settings I have when upgrading from 15.2 to 16? I get lots of framedrops. What is changed and will it be normal again in final release. I don't want to upgrade graphic card just for updating Kodi and wants to keep my current settings.
I guess we are experiencing the same issue here: GPU load going up after upgrading to kodi 16. I have disabled hardware video decoding in kodi as a workaround, thus increasing cpu load of course.
Okay thanks but isn't the idea with madvr for only use gpu power. If I try your suggestion won't that cause issues and where did you disable hardware decoding? I have a hd6450 when has done the job and an I3-2100 cpu


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Derek - 2016-02-09

Kodi DSPlatyer is useless without hardware decoding might as well use the standard RC3.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2016-02-09

(2016-02-09, 21:05)Derek Wrote: Kodi DSPlatyer is useless without hardware decoding might as well use the standard RC3.

I don't have any problems with hardware decoding. Nor is there is any decrease in madVR performance from Isengard to Jarvis.

If your settings are not working, this could be due to the addition of anti-ringing for SuperRes or a reduction in GPU performance as a trade-off for improved image quality on some other setting. I have been upgrading constantly and should know.

I don't think anything was broken in Jarvis. Users need to adjust to the newer madVR release.

And why would DSPlayer be useless without hardware decoding? It has nothing to do with the performance of madVR. It has everything to do with how the video is decoded. If your computer is fast enough, software decoding is perfectly fine.

But, like I said, I have no problem with decoding via DXVA2 copy-back, so I'm not sure this feature is broken for everyone.

You are jumping to conclusions without knowing that hundreds are using DSPlayer with current madVR releases without issue.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Derek - 2016-02-09

Warner306 you pick me up wrong, i mean if you don't want to use hardware decoding why use Kodi DSPlayer your as well with std Kodi.

DSPlayer Kodi works flawless for me as does DXVA2; that statement was meant for the previous poster.

Im hugely disappointed this project is dead Sad

Do you not agree its pointless using DSPlayer unless your going to use Madvr, if you just want to use software decoding stick with the default branch.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2016-02-09

(2016-02-09, 13:01)tingtong5 Wrote:
(2016-02-09, 12:55)Bjur Wrote: Can anyone please tell why I can't use the current madVR settings I have when upgrading from 15.2 to 16? I get lots of framedrops. What is changed and will it be normal again in final release. I don't want to upgrade graphic card just for updating Kodi and wants to keep my current settings.
I guess we are experiencing the same issue here: GPU load going up after upgrading to kodi 16. I have disabled hardware video decoding in kodi as a workaround, thus increasing cpu load of course.

You might want to try using external filters and install a copy of LAV Filters and XySubFilter. The GPU load would be a problem with LAV Filters, not DSPlayer. LAV Video, in particular, is responsible for this.

Although basically the same, it is possible for software decoding to be a better choice if you have a newer CPU because it is less likely to make any errors. But that doesn't fix your problem. It is just a statement that you don't have to give up on DSPlayer over H.264 hardware decoding issues.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - rggomez - 2016-02-10

(2015-04-28, 02:13)Warner306 Wrote:
(2015-04-28, 00:46)weirdinin Wrote:
(2015-04-27, 20:23)XTrojan Wrote: Use MakeMKV and Rip the main audio + video and the subs you want, it'll shrink the movie by 20-50%.

I'm not sure what you are trying to point out. That I do when I import media but how is that relevant to my issue Huh

(2015-04-27, 20:57)esoteradactyl Wrote: Choose "when media player leaves fullscreen" instead of the default setting. I had this same issue.

Thank you for the hint. I'm quite sure I tried that without luck. I already uninstalled dsplayer version of kodi and installed official package again. Maybe I try that again when I have more time.

(2015-04-27, 21:02)Warner306 Wrote: I don't think DSPlayer is compatible with Cinema Experience. That would be most of your problem. I can't even get the trailers to play. Try disabling DSPlayer and use Cinema Experience with DVDPlayer. All of your problems will be gone.

I got cinema experience work quite nice by defining rules so that dvdplayer plays all but main movie. Only problem is that refresh rate is not changed back after main movie ends.
I like so much the quality of madvr that there's no returning back to dvdplayer... so disabling dsplayer is not a way for me to go. I would rather go back to external player than using dvdplayer.
I'll try different settings later when I have more time to tinker. Perhaps by trial and error I'll get this work. I'll report here if that happens. Suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thank you all for your help.

Edit: I made a mistake earlier. Cinema Experience is working fine with the correct version. No special rules are needed. I provided a copy of 4.0.13 in Other Resources.

Hello Warner306, weirdinin,

Can you please explain how you manage to get Cinema experience to work with DsPlayer? I only can play one intro video and when the movie should starts, it crashes and say there is nothing on the playlist!! if I put DVDplayer as default player, everything works as a charm...

thanks


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Derek - 2016-02-10

Warner306: Im the same i cant go back to DVDPlayer it just seems so poor in comparison to the quality DSPlayer puts out, i've already got MPC-HC configured and added as an external player and its working REALLY well.

Not quite integrated (and never will be) but because i use eventghost my remote is integrated so im part way there. If i could find a front end for MPC-HC i'd have to think long and hard about replacing Kodi, DSPlayer is a HUGE loss to the project even though it may never have been fully added to the main distribution. I do still hope someone with the knowlege may take over whether it be integrated in Kodi or otherwise if team Kodi are reluctant i did hear some in the team dont like MadVR which boggles my mind but it could be hearsay.

Just a shame after all the years i've supported XBMC/Kodi from its inception.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - yougood - 2016-02-10

I just setup Kodi with DSplayer following the guide, however, I have problem playing .ts and dvd.iso file. For .ts file, I can not find any guide to setup Kodi with tsreader, dvd.iso file does not play with dvdplayer nor dsplayer.

Is it better to play .ts and .iso file in Kodi with MPC-HC as external player ? How would I do this ? I read some guide to use MPC-HC as external player, but since Kodi have DVDplayer+DSplayer+MPC-HC player, thing become so complicated for me.
I would like to do this:
DSplayer for : avi, mkv
DVDplayer for streaming
MPC-HC for .TS and .iso

Or any better suggestion

Please help me point out what I need to do so I can dig myself out of the problem.Blush