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RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Bibio - 2018-04-06 (2018-04-06, 06:40)mkohman Wrote: @Warner306 I was wondering would their be any point in sending my RX560 4GB back and replace it for a RX580 4GB? I mean what benefit will I get? Will the 580 be much better in performance or is it pretty much an overkill for what I use it for (movie playback only).personally i would get things playing smooth without glitches with the card you have then spend the money on getting an ISF calibration done to the system. after that then there would be no more fiddling. another thing you might want to consider is upgrading your motherboard. RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2018-04-06 (2018-04-06, 15:40)Bibio Wrote:Yes, that is correct.(2018-04-04, 19:12)Warner306 Wrote:if i'm understanding correctly then what you are saying is that the GPU will apply any settings in its "config utility" after madvr for the final output to the display device. RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2018-04-06 As for the RX 560 vs. RX 580, you would probably be able to use NGU high for all profiles. I don't know if I can say that's worth it, though. The quality improvement would be small and the cost of the card would be large. So...it's up to you. RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Bibio - 2018-04-06 (2018-04-06, 16:49)Warner306 Wrote:can you hear the penny drop.... lol(2018-04-06, 15:40)Bibio Wrote:Yes, that is correct.(2018-04-04, 19:12)Warner306 Wrote:if i'm understanding correctly then what you are saying is that the GPU will apply any settings in its "config utility" after madvr for the final output to the display device. if i'm also correct then madvr osd is only reporting what madvr is doing and not what the gpu is outputting via its settings, which is invisible to the user unless the display device has its own "rendering osd". this might want an explanation in your guide? RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - mkohman - 2018-04-06 (2018-04-06, 15:59)Bibio Wrote:That is solid advice thank you.. If I upgrade my motherboard I would need a new cpu and ram aswell.. lets see thanks anyway Do you reccomend a motherboard and a cpu that will be sufficient? I can go atx as I am thinking of changing my case to silverstone gd09b thanks(2018-04-06, 06:40)mkohman Wrote: @Warner306 I was wondering would their be any point in sending my RX560 4GB back and replace it for a RX580 4GB? I mean what benefit will I get? Will the 580 be much better in performance or is it pretty much an overkill for what I use it for (movie playback only).personally i would get things playing smooth without glitches with the card you have then spend the money on getting an ISF calibration done to the system. after that then there would be no more fiddling. Also what benefit will I gain from upgrading my motherboard as I only with movies with this HTPC? Thanks RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - lanzorg - 2018-04-06 @aracnoz Are you still maintaining Kodi DSPlayer? Could you add AssFilterMod as XySubFilters alternative in your next setup? RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Bibio - 2018-04-06 (2018-04-06, 18:32)mkohman Wrote:a new MB will give you faster bus speeds, newer chipsets and if the correct one is obtained a nice M.2 pcie HDD for your OS/programs.(2018-04-06, 15:59)Bibio Wrote:That is solid advice thank you.. If I upgrade my motherboard I would need a new cpu and ram aswell.. lets see thanks anyway Do you reccomend a motherboard and a cpu that will be sufficient? I can go atx as I am thinking of changing my case to silverstone gd09b thanks(2018-04-06, 06:40)mkohman Wrote: @Warner306 I was wondering would their be any point in sending my RX560 4GB back and replace it for a RX580 4GB? I mean what benefit will I get? Will the 580 be much better in performance or is it pretty much an overkill for what I use it for (movie playback only).personally i would get things playing smooth without glitches with the card you have then spend the money on getting an ISF calibration done to the system. after that then there would be no more fiddling. depending on your MB choice then you can keep your CPU and memory. i would not be spending a wad of cash on a mid/high end card if the MB GPU socket was older spec, thats like sticking a sports car engine in a family saloon. yes it will work but the brakes and suspension aren't up to the task. as computing components advance so do OS and programs to take advantage of it. having said the above, if things are running fine and dandy then keep what you have till you really need to upgrade. its true what others have said, the returns v's outlay in PQ have diminishing returns. ok so you might be able to run madvr almost flat out with a high end system. but in reality your not going to notice that much difference in PQ with using 1080p and 4k content. all you are trying to do is better the PQ of "hardware players" and add ease of playback. RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - mkohman - 2018-04-07 So guys, I have did as @Warner360 advised me and selected the calibrated mode in madVR and also selected the BT2020, I will be honest with you I can not really see much difference at all if any.. 4K HDR SETTINGS: THIS IS 1080p BLURAY UPSCALED to 4K with madVR: Can you please asses these images above and tell me if everything seems ok? Thank you RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2018-04-07 Those are better looking pictures than the last ones you posted. It looks fine. I was pretty sure your display was already doing some form of color management because you weren't complaining about the colors being off. Setting this in madVR is likely achieving the same thing. I would just leave it like that. Your projector is calibrated to BT.2020 in SDR mode, so you should output in BT.2020 from madVR, if possible. If outputting in BT.709 from madVR was achieving the same result, then your projector was converting the input. So no loss, no gain. I would just leave everything as is if you are getting proper picture quality and functionality. You'll drive yourself mad if you keep tweaking things. I might have steered you wrong on setting 10-bits in the GPU control panel. madshi now says fullscreen exclusive mode should be enabled to get 10-bit output from the GPU in HDR passthrough mode. You seem to be getting 10-bits in HDR mode, already, so I don't know if this is true. Do you notice any banding in HDR titles? This is the bug that others are reporting when not using fullscreen exclusive mode with HDR passthrough - banding. Because of the problems you are reporting with fullscreen exclusive mode, it might be best to set the GPU to 8-bits. I am still waiting confirmation from madshi on the best settings for HDR passthrough for an AMD card. For now, leave it at 10-bits and stop fiddling with your computer. RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - mkohman - 2018-04-07 (2018-04-07, 06:17)Warner306 Wrote: Those are better looking pictures than the last ones you posted.Thank you for your help @Warner360 I do not get any banding that I can see and if I change to 12 bit it will also show 12bit on the projectors info panel. My projector and AMD GPU can both do 8, 10 and 12bit. I tried both 10 and 12 bit and don't notice any difference.. Here's what I am wondering.. My GPU is RGB 4:4:4 10 bit, madVR ouput is set to 0-255, my projector (JVC x5900) is showing RGB.. Where is the conversion to YcBcR happening? I mean isn't movies supposed to be 4.2.0? I am confused at this to be honest with you guys.. If someone can please try to break it down to me because my projector is showing RGB and I am not sure if this is correct? The colours look fine but I don't want to be making any unnecessary conversions etc.. Thank you RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2018-04-07 (2018-04-07, 16:30)mkohman Wrote:madVR converts from YCbCr to RGB. This is necessary because it is a PC application. It is impossible to know what the display is doing sometimes; especially if it is 4:4:4. It may convert to YCbCr 4:4:4 and then to RGB. Or it may just take the RGB input and display it as is. If the display is 4:2:2, it takes the RGB input, converts it to YCbCr, upscales the chroma and then displays it as RGB. The process looks like this:(2018-04-07, 06:17)Warner306 Wrote:Thank you for your help @Warner360 I do not get any banding that I can see and if I change to 12 bit it will also show 12bit on the projectors info panel. My projector and AMD GPU can both do 8, 10 and 12bit. I tried both 10 and 12 bit and don't notice any difference.. (Source) Y'CbCr 4:2:0 -> (madVR) Y'CbCr 4:4:4 to RGB -> (GPU) RGB or Y'CbCr -> (Display) Y'CbCr 4:4:4/4:2:2/4:2:0 or RGB to Y'CbCr 4:4:4/RGB -> (Display Output) RGB The conversion from YCbCr to RGB should be lossless but can lead to small differences in color. RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2018-04-07 (2018-04-06, 17:28)Bibio Wrote:This explanation is provided after bit depths. I not sure if I need to say anything more. The guide already has some confusing, poorly-written language already. I rewrote two sections recently but others could be improved.(2018-04-06, 16:49)Warner306 Wrote:can you hear the penny drop.... lol(2018-04-06, 15:40)Bibio Wrote: Configuring a GPU for 4K UHD and Windows 10: If possible, keep your Windows desktop in RGB Full. madVR works in RGB Full. To do this, I recommend the following:
Now your desktop will remain at 8-bits while video playback will be matched to 10-bits. Do this bit depth matching for each frame rate. This will keep everything at RGB Full and eliminate unnecessary range conversions from madVR to the GPU, which is always the preferred outcome. If you are using RGB Limited instead, adjust accordingly. RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - mkohman - 2018-04-07 Thanks you so much.. Makes sense.. My display can do RGB 444 so I guess its taking the conversion from madVR directly hence why the information panel is displaying as RGB 10bit [emoji106] RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2018-04-07 (2018-04-06, 18:46)lanzorg Wrote: @aracnoz What is the benefit of AssFilterMod, besides it’s great name? RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - vicmanpergar - 2018-04-08 If it's directshow filter, I bet u can just add it urself through the xml's. |