(2019-03-15, 00:23)da3dsoul Wrote: Complaining that an update isn't coming is definitely not the best way to get anyone to try, though.

(2019-03-15, 01:20)da3dsoul Wrote: I wasn't referring to you specifically. As a developer myself, I can say that, at least in my case, tone is everything.
"Are there any plans for an update?" is a thousand times better than, "When's the update gonna be?"
The second is less offensive if I've already said I'm working on it, but, "Any news?" is still better than acting like I'm on a schedule or in any hurry to please anyone.

You were plenty polite. Some others were not. I'm not calling names, mainly because I don't commit them to memory if they are rude, but others were not polite, even if they meant no offense.

About the money thing, this might just be me, but it's not about the money. If I don't want to, I don't want to. Whether it's $5 or $50,000, if I choose to work on something, it's because I chose to for personal reasons. Usually, that reason is, "because it sounded fun."

If you offered me $50,000, I would gladly try to make DSPlayer the best thing that I can, as I do love the project. You notice that I made no promises. I can say what is required to tackle a project like this at the least because I know enough to understand that I don't know enough. I would need to learn a lot before I could even try to do a lot of things that DSPlayer needs right now. I would only take money because I recognize that it would take literally all of my time just learning what is needed.

(2019-03-14, 21:30)da3dsoul Wrote: People are throwing around reasons for using DSPlayer, and I'll give it to you. It has nothing to do with HDR for most people. Kodi's built in player is slow and not very good at a lot of things. This is not intended to be offensive. They are aware of it, and they are clearly trying to improve it bit by bit.
I use DSPlayer because it can render subtitles without completely shutting Kodi down with lag. This is one reason to use it. Another reason is scaling algorithms. There's frame interpolation, HDR (which is poorly implemented at best, due to lack of OS and driver support), 3D (without killing kodi with lag again...), better sound support, and many more reasons.
Don't act like your specific use case speaks for even a majority of users.
Addon developers can make things work with DSPlayer if they want to, as well. I did. It's comparatively easy, considering that DSPlayer is entirely C++ on top of decades old code originally written for XBOX.

Someone wanted some ideas of what is required or helpful. Here's some that I encountered when attempting to aid development myself:

• C++ and all of the build tools involved
  
• Thorough knowledge of DirectX/DirectDraw/OpenGL/Windows Graphics and Sound APIs. This isn't completely necessary to work on DSPlayer, but you'll hit weird issues with no clue how to approach them without experience in those.
  
• Thorough knowledge of media codecs, how to parse them (even with libraries), and how to forward them to another application
  
• The ability to write code that does not crash. This does not mean that errors can't occur, but that you are capable of thinking and writing in a way that includes failsafe fallbacks to everything you do. You should never hit play or stop, and then see Kodi indefinitely lock up or crash.
  
• Knowledge of memory management in C++, specifically involving reading, managing, and closing streams.
  
• File Locking, as nothing will work if you are not letting MadVR, LAV, etc even access the filestream that you hand it.
  
• DRM and copyright implications, mainly to cover your own ass and prevent an accidental legal issue.
  
• Concepts on video technologies involved with encoding, including how framerate, codecs, containers, 3D and HDR, and things of that nature may screw with things. Not knowing these will cause poor color quality or worse.
  
• THE ABILITY TO BE POLITE, RESPECTFUL, AND INTERACT WITH A TOXIC COMMUNITY. If this thread shows anything, it's that no matter how cool you are, there are people who don't deserve your time. Despite that, you still can't be blatantly rude, or the experience will be ruined for all, and it'll very quickly drive you away when you realize nothing is worse than working for free and getting involved in petty flame wars over it.
  

Most of these do not require Book of Magnus level knowledge, but if you don't at least understand what they are and how they work, you will drop the project when you encounter an issue that flies a mile over your head. 

(2019-03-15, 11:15)Sunset1982 Wrote: hey guys,

I updated my Windows to latest Windows 10 build (1809) last week. I also updated drivers and changed my gfx card (now vega 56). Since then, my pc suddenly stops sometimes when I play video files with my kodidsplayer. playback stops, player exits and focus is back in kodi. it is completely random. any idea what causes this?

(2019-03-15, 17:59)da3dsoul Wrote: 50k was an arbitrary number I made up. If you hired a paid programmer full time with the skills and experience I mentioned, they would be paid twice to three times that. Get over yourself. Good programmers are a special breed, and they aren't cheap. It's not about the money, because $5 or $50 isn't worth the time. The enjoyment of helping a project that you like is what is worth the time.

(2019-03-15, 17:59)da3dsoul Wrote: 50k was an arbitrary number I made up. If you hired a paid programmer full time with the skills and experience I mentioned, they would be paid twice to three times that. Get over yourself. Good programmers are a special breed, and they aren't cheap. It's not about the money, because $5 or $50 isn't worth the time. The enjoyment of helping a project that you like is what is worth the time.