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Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - GlennNZ - 2019-08-11

(2019-03-25, 21:56)FernetMenta Wrote:
(2019-03-25, 19:21)ashlar Wrote:
(2019-03-24, 22:51)FernetMenta Wrote:  
I did not say this and again this it not true. If madVR is desired as a renderer for Kodi, binary addon is the way to go.     
Ok, thank you @FernetMenta. Did I understand uncorrectly what @davilla meant with "One would have to extend the binary addon interface to support it."?
My understanding was that there is currently no way for such a binary addon to be created unless Kodi devs worked on their side to create the proper "environment" for it.    
Again for clarity and other readers who might come across this in future. An open source project like Kodi won't make itself dependent on a closed source library like madVR. That means that the one and only option to make madVR available in Kodi is via binary addons.

Right, currently there is no binary addon interface for external renderers. But such an interface can be created like it has been done for other purposes too. Everybody can be a Kodi dev. That means that everbody who wants to wrap madVR into a binary addon can also extend Kodi's external interfaces. A lot of v18 features like videobuffers support this now. That means it has never been easier to create external renderers. But still a lot of work ahead though.
Quote:devs have sacrificed quality over platform proliferation

What a pity, isn't it?


(2019-03-24, 04:46)davilla Wrote: Sorry to confuse. I mean since by-pass rendering has been removed in v18, the option of doing what you want with a by-pass renderer is also not possible with v18.


Hi all,

I haven’t looked - but this exchange from here:

https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=335218

To me means that it would be not possible to merge Dsplayer into 18. The only way forward seems to be extend the binary add on for Kodi and the hook madVR into that. Certainly doesn’t seem like a small job, and to me the fact that the current method appears to have been shut down is the reason we haven’t seen a updated build.

Glenn


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2019-08-11

It's already been done in the past. DSPlayer is a fork, so Team Kodi isn't concerned with it. We simply lost the developer who was doing the merges from v15 to v16, v16 to v17, etc. 

madVR is an external installation to DSPlayer and DSPlayer simply uses it as the renderer.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - fandangos - 2019-08-11

(2019-08-11, 03:23)Warner306 Wrote: We don't need any changes to the player itself. It already works fine and doesn't need any new features. We need the external player code to be merged with the rest of Kodi. I'm not a coder, so I don't know how much of the DSPlayer code overlaps with the rest of Kodi, but it is basically a second player alongside VideoPlayer that becomes the default player. Most feature updates come from external installations of LAV Filters and madVR that have their own developers.

You summed up the reason why I don't see the need for dsplayer to be merged into the newest kodi build.

About having two instances (I'm on my phone to double quote easily so I'm just reiterating what you said, I don't see why not.
It can go straight into dsplayer and it would just need some alt+F4 shortcut to close it when playback ends.
Or else when you press stop it would go into Krypton kodi.
I think this can be done with Kodi Callback add-on, on playback stop close Kodi, still I don't know how we could have 2 profiles with 2 Kodi installers.
That's the only problem I see.

To check dsplayer behaviour by yourself just drag and drop a file into dsplayer executable or run in cmd dsplayer.exe videofile.mkv or something that would be how it would work.


Now I really would like to get libbluray support to dsplayer but without any kind of directions from aracnoz I don't even know where to start looking.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2019-08-11

I just tried it. The experience is okay, but I don't think it is dramatically better than using MPC as an external player. You lose some of the metadata and you have to wait for Kodi to load before the video starts playing. The only advantage over MPC is that the OSD is larger and you get a poster and media flags.

I doubt the average DSPlayer user would be willing to do this while the current DSPlayer is still working fine.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - fandangos - 2019-08-11

(2019-08-11, 15:02)Warner306 Wrote: I doubt the average DSPlayer user would be willing to do this while the current DSPlayer is still working fine.

Exactly.


Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - GlennNZ - 2019-08-12

(2019-08-11, 12:54)Warner306 Wrote: It's already been done in the past. DSPlayer is a fork, so Team Kodi isn't concerned with it. We simply lost the developer who was doing the merges from v15 to v16, v16 to v17, etc. 

madVR is an external installation to DSPlayer and DSPlayer simply uses it as the renderer.

Hi Warner306 - I would love to see it happen, just believe in version 18 now very difficult. However we all should thank you for your continued support of this thread and your guides ++

It’s this bit here:

(2019-03-23, 15:33)davilla Wrote: Easy to do in v17 player based code, v18 is harder as the concept of a by-pass renderer was neutered.

And that discussion, which I read as was doable in 17, but appears not in 18. And whilst could be forked from 17 where was possible - that is basically what we have now I think?

Glenn


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2019-08-12

That comment refers to adding a new renderer to VideoPlayer. The original poster was trying to add madVR in some way to core Kodi through an external add-on. It doesn't have anything to do with the fork of DSPlayer. DSPlayer is a completely separate build and player from VideoPlayer.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - divisionreaper - 2019-08-19

Kodi DSplayer + madVR
I'm having a problem where the player plays fine after a computer restart but if I pause and close Kodi and reopen it again, the player refuses to play anything (when pressing play, the screen goes black for a split second then goes back to the menu. Log shows no errors. Basically it starts and stops by itself). I tinkered with the settings for a bit but nothing worked. Only restarting the computer or logging off and back on fixes this.
Anyone know anything about this?


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2019-08-19

I don't think I've heard of this. When you created the debug log, did you add the PDB file from the download link on the first page to the Kodi installation folder? This is described here:

https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=222576&pid=1966593#pid1966593


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - waffi - 2019-08-21

i am thinking if i should install dsp player again. i also have an ambilight. additionally i use the software svp: https://www.svp-team.com/wiki/SVP:Kodi

can i use your manual and the software of svp @Warner306 ? would i like to do without the ambilight. 

my old graphics card broke, got my money back and now i got a rtx 2080 ti Big Grin makes me wonder how it looks like with this one.

thank you!


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2019-08-21

Try installing it as a portable installation and testing it. I think you need to install FFDShow to use SVP, but I can't remember. Do a search of this thread and the DSPlayer set up guide for "SVP."


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - TheBuz - 2019-08-21

I am having trouble getting the video cache settings to work.

https://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Modify_the_video_cache

Basically i want to dump as much of the video to RAM as possible.

Is this because MADvr doesn't respect the cache or has its own cache settings? If so where could I find those?


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - Warner306 - 2019-08-22

The player (madVR) is using the GPU shaders for rendering, so all VRAM usage is dictated by the GPU drivers. DXVA2 (copy-back) uses some system RAM, but you can't move the video processing from the GPU to the CPU.

You can move the video decoding to the CPU by choosing software decoding in LAV Video. You can also reduce VRAM usage by madVR by reducing the size of the present frames in advance number and the GPU queue size.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - spencerjford - 2019-08-22

(2019-08-21, 22:25)TheBuz Wrote: I am having trouble getting the video cache settings to work.

https://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Modify_the_video_cache

Basically i want to dump as much of the video to RAM as possible.

Is this because MADvr doesn't respect the cache or has its own cache settings? If so where could I find those?
it has nothing to do with madvr, it's all due to the dsplayer.  it is it's own video player and works off directshow and lavfilters.  Modifying the cache will have no effect on dsplayer player.  if you played something with videoplayer (choosing play with and selecting videoplayer) you will see the cache settings in action.


RE: Kodi DSPlayer – DirectShow Player for Windows - gibman - 2019-08-23

How do I "automagically" make kodi dsplayer skip reclock for atmos movies (where filename contains "atmos") and otherwise fallback to reclock usage if not?
Is this even possible ?

Right now I have to manually switch toggle reclock within the dsplayer settings in kodi. But this is such a chore.