(2016-08-04, 12:19)crashnburn Wrote: Similar deals as GearBest on BangGood.
http://deals.banggood.com/deals/edm/topic/nexbox160803.html?bid=24760&utmid=919

Most People will typically go with lowest price for hardware.
Why dont we / kodi point to a list of clean box sellers on Ebay?

And even if someone finds a cheap "corrupt" box from Ebay, why not
- let people buy from them
- provide them links and How to to flash Clean OE/LE builds on them

That way we dont have to field newbie questions around piracy add ons as they are using the Bad OS

(2016-08-04, 12:19)crashnburn Wrote: And even if someone finds a cheap "corrupt" box from Ebay, why not
- let people buy from them
- provide them links and How to to flash Clean OE/LE builds on them

(2016-08-04, 15:03)danfloss Wrote:

(2016-07-27, 10:04)KoopaTroopa Wrote:

(2016-07-26, 11:30)bobrooney Wrote: However there is atm new flash sale on Gearbest for another AML S905 device for 23$.
It is a NEXBOX A95X (LINK)

Any chance you have tested this yourself with the LE build?

Had one of these delivered today. Its a holiday machine (me and the wife like to watch boxsets of an evening). I had some problems to start off, was getting lines and masses of artefacts on screen but this turned out to be HDMI cable related. Its full of crap as many have mentioned before with these Chinese boxes, but I have to say for just over £18 it is pretty OK, not as good I would hazard as my Asus Chromebox running Openelec but not far off, also, surprisingly, the remote is good and has some extra functions. It boots easily into recovery so I'm going to test LibreELEC on it via SD card.

@crashburn
Its packed away but i could swear it has Miracast/airplay support will check again tomorrow

(2016-08-05, 11:13)netvlada Wrote:

(2016-08-04, 15:03)danfloss Wrote:

(2016-07-27, 10:04)KoopaTroopa Wrote: Any chance you have tested this yourself with the LE build?

Had one of these delivered today. Its a holiday machine (me and the wife like to watch boxsets of an evening). I had some problems to start off, was getting lines and masses of artefacts on screen but this turned out to be HDMI cable related. Its full of crap as many have mentioned before with these Chinese boxes, but I have to say for just over £18 it is pretty OK, not as good I would hazard as my Asus Chromebox running Openelec but not far off, also, surprisingly, the remote is good and has some extra functions. It boots easily into recovery so I'm going to test LibreELEC on it via SD card.

@crashburn
Its packed away but i could swear it has Miracast/airplay support will check again tomorrow

Is it stable?
Google play works?
Antutu?
Kodi ?
Wi-Fi speed?
Overheat?
Factory firmware?
Some bugs?

Thanks in advance?

(2016-08-05, 05:07)wrxtasy Wrote:

(2016-08-04, 12:19)crashnburn Wrote: And even if someone finds a cheap "corrupt" box from Ebay, why not
- let people buy from them
- provide them links and How to to flash Clean OE/LE builds on them

You still really don't get it do you, no matter how many times we tell you ?

Why should we encourage supporting a business that continually seeks to profit from selling illegal Pirate Kodi boxes ?

(2016-08-05, 05:07)wrxtasy Wrote: If you support Kodi, stop thinking of only Hardware purchase price and yourselves. There is a bigger picture.

(2016-08-05, 15:22)bobrooney Wrote:

(2016-08-05, 05:07)wrxtasy Wrote:

(2016-08-04, 12:19)crashnburn Wrote: And even if someone finds a cheap "corrupt" box from Ebay, why not
- let people buy from them
- provide them links and How to to flash Clean OE/LE builds on them

You still really don't get it do you, no matter how many times we tell you ?

Why should we encourage supporting a business that continually seeks to profit from selling illegal Pirate Kodi boxes ?

I am not trying to be offending but I think that you also don't get some (not so) obvious facts.
You are not encouraging "business that benefits from piracy" by supporting people that are buying some cheap Chinese devices. No, not anymore. It is too late for that - The damage is already done. For example, if you somehow (by some miracle) put something in next Kodi versions that will prevent Kodi to run on such boxes, or Kodi project simply cease to exist, they will just use Kodi Jarvis for the next decade, and just upgrade it from time to time and still benefit from your PAST work.

In my opinion, with your current actions you cannot control nor encourage or discourage current flow on the internet market when it comes to those TV boxes - Unfortunately!

(2016-08-05, 16:33)wrxtasy Wrote: Please read what I've written again, and then repeat the process,..

(2016-08-06, 10:13)Ned Scott Wrote: @bobrooney
As for pirates using old versions, actually no.

(2016-08-05, 15:22)bobrooney Wrote: ... if you somehow (by some miracle) put something in next Kodi versions that will prevent Kodi to run on such boxes, or Kodi project simply cease to exist..

(2016-08-06, 10:13)Ned Scott Wrote: If someone is so poor that they can't afford something like that then I think they have bigger things to worry about than getting 4K video with HD audio on an S905 box.

(2016-08-06, 10:13)Ned Scott Wrote: If people want to say "that device is trash" then let them. Why do you care? It's an opinion.

(2016-08-06, 10:13)Ned Scott Wrote: @bobrooney

Pirate stuff and hurting the Kodi image is only part of the problem. There's also:

• bad firmware support form the box sellers - not every S905 can use the same image. A lot of people are having a rude awakening to that fact.
• poor quality parts - power supplies that actually catch on fire, buttons that snap off the board when you press them, heat sinks that fall off. All of those issues have happened to me in the past.
• unlicensed hardware - things like forged or a lack of CE marks, FCC certification, etc is getting a lot of boxes held up in customs. The growing popularity of these boxes is increasing the spotlight on them, so this is actually happening more often.

and various other reasons that go on and on.

As for pirates using old versions, actually no. When XBMC got renamed to Kodi, we thought for sure the XBMC brand was dead because so many people were associating it with piracy streams at that point. However, the masses are like goldfish and they quickly forget these things. As soon as a new name for something pops up, everyone goes over to that. The association of piracy and Kodi is shallow. It can be undone. The Kodi project and the community will not stop fighting that fight.

If someone can't afford a WeTek or a Shield, then why the hell are they not buying a Raspberry Pi or an ODROID-C2? You can get a damn Pi for $5. If someone is so poor that they can't afford something like that then I think they have bigger things to worry about than getting 4K video with HD audio on an S905 box.

Their boxes aren't completely legal (see licensing example above) even when they wipe the pre-loaded crap off, but even then, I agree that education is the better option. If a cheap no-name box works great with a fresh Kodi installation, great. I have no issue with that. However, people are being realistic here. There's no reason to encourage hardware that is likely crap (including a ton of boxes with early and flawed versions of the S905) over other options that have none of those issues and are nearly as cheap. Hell, before the ARM port people would actually do things like convert an old PC into an HTPC.

If people want to say "that device is trash" then let them. Why do you care? It's an opinion.

(2016-08-07, 02:09)trogggy Wrote: If you're concerned about using a cheap power supply just swap it. They're nothing special - my minimx111 has a 5V 2A power supply which are common as mud. At worst you'd have to chop the jack-plug from the original to stick on the replacement.

(2016-08-07, 02:23)jebise Wrote: i know and will probably source one locally, not going to DIY a power supply even if they are common as mud and only 5v. You can call me paranoid but a hazard is a hazard even of its very small.

I have an extra 5V 2A adapter that came with something else from china that isn't being used and I could probably un-soider the wires from the power supply soider it to a male usb plug and use my 5V 2A RPi adapter.

(2016-08-06, 16:22)bobrooney Wrote:

(2016-08-06, 10:13)Ned Scott Wrote: @bobrooney
As for pirates using old versions, actually no.

So what do you think what will happen if:

(2016-08-05, 15:22)bobrooney Wrote: ... if you somehow (by some miracle) put something in next Kodi versions that will prevent Kodi to run on such boxes, or Kodi project simply cease to exist..

?
pirates will stop using Kodi?

Quote:

(2016-08-06, 10:13)Ned Scott Wrote: If someone is so poor that they can't afford something like that then I think they have bigger things to worry about than getting 4K video with HD audio on an S905 box.

Of course! And that is my point. Lot of people (like me) don't have 4k TV, sound systems, H265 files,... so they don't need 4k playback, passtrough, HEVC support,... and for those people (with "basic needs") those devices are good enough. I really don't have any problems with my 26$ device. Honestly! I don't care if maybe 4k playback is not smooth or passtrough don't work on my device because I don't need that! This device simply fulfills all my current needs and that is what I am looking for.