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RE: HiMedia Q5/Q10 Pro (2016) with Kodi: Reviews & Utilization - hdmkv - 2016-07-13
(2016-07-07, 18:28)Pr0ph3cyTiger Wrote: I have a question guys, does himedia support 1080p streaming??What kind? If local or NAS, yes. If premium, like Netflix, nope. For other online streaming, 1080p works via Kodi add-ons that support it, and there may be other Android tablet apps that do as well. For example, YouTube. For rest, I say tablet as Q5/10 Pro, like most Chinese Android boxes, have online streaming capped at 480p.
(2016-07-12, 20:23)wrxtasy Wrote: What is the difference between this Deep Color and the Wide Gamut Color mentioned, or are they one and the same thing ?@wesk05 is best to answer this question, but from what I understand, deep color (as far as 4K and HDR are concerned) = wide color gamut. Actually, for HDR, it's "ultrawide color gamut" (via Rec. 2020 color space). This compared to Blu-ray having Rec. 709.
Honestly, like you, I'm mostly judge-using-your-eyeballs kind of guy. Numbers are one thing, PQ and resolution you see on screen another. I don't have a HDR-capable display yet, but will be getting an Epson HDR 4K eShift (some call it faux 4K) projector this Fall/Autumn.
(2016-07-13, 02:14)Mockiteur Wrote: Are there any mac users here?Sorry, don't have a Mac, but what you want to do should work. I assume you're using SMB to transfer files to your Popcorn Hour. I'd ask at Futeko forum as well.
Is there a way to get the Q10 and put in an HDD with 6 or 8TB and copy movies etc onto it from a mac?
I have a Popcorn Hour A-210 right now and it works great but I'm tired of the UI so I wanna become a HiMediaER
Currently all my HDD's are formated Mac Journaled but I've read about several programs making it possible to read/write/format NTFS on a mac.
RE: HiMedia Q5/Q10 Pro (2016) with Kodi: Reviews & Utilization - Transit266 - 2016-07-13
(2016-03-25, 19:59)hdmkv Wrote: Latest scoop, as of July 1, 2016:
- There is no DolbyVision on Q10 Pro as previously advertised. HiMedia ought to apologize for this, but as DolbyVision is actually intended for premium streaming, which Q10 Pro can't do anyway above SD-quality Tested a couple of DolbyVision videos on Q10 Pro and they play well and look great, so color me surprised
So finally is DolbyVision just a kind of video codec or it is hardware related? could you explain please. Color and contrast of these videos look great to me,too; even my tv does not have HDR.
RE: HiMedia Q5/Q10 Pro (2016) with Kodi: Reviews & Utilization - wesk05 - 2016-07-13
(2016-07-12, 20:23)wrxtasy Wrote: Speaking of which, I've noticed with testing Android Marshmallow on the WeTek Hub, there is now a "Deep Color" option (or similar).
I've been told there are noticeable color improvements for some displays, with this option turned on.
What is the difference between this Deep Color and the Wide Gamut Color mentioned, or are they one and the same thing ?
(2016-07-13, 04:01)hdmkv Wrote: @wesk05 is best to answer this question, but from what I understand, deep color (as far as 4K and HDR are concerned) = wide color gamut. Actually, for HDR, it's "ultrawide color gamut" (via Rec. 2020 color space). This compared to Blu-ray having Rec. 709.Deep Color was first introduced in HDMI 1.3 in 2006. It refers to increased color depth (30,36,48 bits). It was introduced to support wider color gamut. Sony's xvYCC color scheme introduced at the same time would have benefited from Deep Color. xvYCC never became popular and now with Rec. 2020 it may very well be considered as defunct. If the source content is not 30, 36, 48-bit, Deep Color output isn't of much use. It is not going to improve the picture quality by some magic.
I couldn't find any reference to Deep Color in S905 technical specification (from Odroid). I have a feeling that Amlogic is using the same Android Marshmallow SDK for S905 and S905X. S905X should support Deep Color if it has to output HDR10.
RE: HiMedia Q5/Q10 Pro (2016) with Kodi: Reviews & Utilization - D3rdevil - 2016-07-13
A 2016 Oled has the capabilities to decode DV itself. So shouldnt it be possible for the Q10 to send the DV stuff to the TV and let it do its thing for real DV experience?
Ofc not many TVs support DV so it certainly isnt a priority. First they should fix the 24p problems for good which they probably never will! I'd put my money on that!
RE: HiMedia Q5/Q10 Pro (2016) with Kodi: Reviews & Utilization - aelfwine - 2016-07-14
(2016-07-13, 04:18)Transit266 Wrote: So finally is DolbyVision just a kind of video codec or it is hardware related? could you explain please. Color and contrast of these videos look great to me,too; even my tv does not have HDR.
DolbyVision is Dolby's counterpart of HDR. It delivers somewhat better picture but it requires additional hardware (chip) to make it work so as Dolby states. This makes it a little bit strange how HiMedia "support" DolbyVision content without this chip. But someone correct me if I'm wrong here.
RE: HiMedia Q5/Q10 Pro (2016) with Kodi: Reviews & Utilization - afss - 2016-07-14
(2016-07-14, 17:33)aelfwine Wrote:(2016-07-13, 04:18)Transit266 Wrote: So finally is DolbyVision just a kind of video codec or it is hardware related? could you explain please. Color and contrast of these videos look great to me,too; even my tv does not have HDR.
DolbyVision is Dolby's counterpart of HDR. It delivers somewhat better picture but it requires additional hardware (chip) to make it work so as Dolby states. This makes it a little bit strange how HiMedia "support" DolbyVision content without this chip. But someone correct me if I'm wrong here.
This is confusing for me too. I would think a player would just need to be compliant to "bitstream" Dolby-vision, with no need for an extra chip, but the actual TV or Projector would definitively need the chip in order to be able to decode the dolby video data.
Could anybody help to shed some light ?
Thank you !
RE: HiMedia Q5/Q10 Pro (2016) with Kodi: Reviews & Utilization - the_jaguar - 2016-07-14
(2016-07-14, 18:41)afss Wrote:(2016-07-14, 17:33)aelfwine Wrote:(2016-07-13, 04:18)Transit266 Wrote: So finally is DolbyVision just a kind of video codec or it is hardware related? could you explain please. Color and contrast of these videos look great to me,too; even my tv does not have HDR.
DolbyVision is Dolby's counterpart of HDR. It delivers somewhat better picture but it requires additional hardware (chip) to make it work so as Dolby states. This makes it a little bit strange how HiMedia "support" DolbyVision content without this chip. But someone correct me if I'm wrong here.
This is confusing for me too. I would think a player would just need to be compliant to "bitstream" Dolby-vision, with no need for an extra chip, but the actual TV or Projector would definitively need the chip in order to be able to decode the dolby video data.
Could anybody help to shed some light ?
Thank you !
When I asked this question in the Pi thread, I was told that even though my TV (LG OLED) has the chip in it, unless the media box has the chip, it wouldn't be able to process it. I get DV from the webos based netflix and Amazon app on the TV itself. Also, if you are using an AV receiver in between, the receiver needs to support DV with the chip too.
RE: HiMedia Q5/Q10 Pro (2016) with Kodi: Reviews & Utilization - afss - 2016-07-14
(2016-07-14, 20:20)the_jaguar Wrote:(2016-07-14, 18:41)afss Wrote:(2016-07-14, 17:33)aelfwine Wrote: DolbyVision is Dolby's counterpart of HDR. It delivers somewhat better picture but it requires additional hardware (chip) to make it work so as Dolby states. This makes it a little bit strange how HiMedia "support" DolbyVision content without this chip. But someone correct me if I'm wrong here.
This is confusing for me too. I would think a player would just need to be compliant to "bitstream" Dolby-vision, with no need for an extra chip, but the actual TV or Projector would definitively need the chip in order to be able to decode the dolby video data.
Could anybody help to shed some light ?
Thank you !
When I asked this question in the Pi thread, I was told that even though my TV (LG OLED) has the chip in it, unless the media box has the chip, it wouldn't be able to process it. I get DV from the webos based netflix and Amazon app on the TV itself. Also, if you are using an AV receiver in between, the receiver needs to support DV with the chip too.
Check this Youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYiEK9W5-Ho
They seem have a Dolby Vision demo running, with a prototype Q5 Pro - this would imply no chip required on the media player, only at the TV (Assuming this was not a fake demo !)
Good discussion - I hope we get to the bottom of it.
Regards.
RE: HiMedia Q5/Q10 Pro (2016) with Kodi: Reviews & Utilization - 6hzzz - 2016-07-15
1.0.5 official release
Q10 Pro
HMD-1.0.5 2016-07-07.151525
MD5: 70029BC2E6CA877E2812CAC3EC5D9EE3
http://pan.baidu.com/s/1hsc2uzy pass：72fj
RE: HiMedia Q5/Q10 Pro (2016) with Kodi: Reviews & Utilization - Transit266 - 2016-07-15
(2016-07-15, 02:18)6hzzz Wrote: 1.0.5 official release
Q10 Pro
HMD-1.0.5 2016-07-07.151525
MD5: 70029BC2E6CA877E2812CAC3EC5D9EE3
http://pan.baidu.com/s/1hsc2uzy pass：72fj
If it's official, why it is not shown on http://himediatech.com/support.htm ??
RE: HiMedia Q5/Q10 Pro (2016) with Kodi: Reviews & Utilization - PJDavis1970 - 2016-07-15
(2016-07-15, 04:26)Transit266 Wrote:(2016-07-15, 02:18)6hzzz Wrote: 1.0.5 official release
Q10 Pro
HMD-1.0.5 2016-07-07.151525
MD5: 70029BC2E6CA877E2812CAC3EC5D9EE3
http://pan.baidu.com/s/1hsc2uzy pass：72fj
If it's official, why it is not shown on http://himediatech.com/support.htm ??
Its also on Futeko Here
RE: HiMedia Q5/Q10 Pro (2016) with Kodi: Reviews & Utilization - aelfwine - 2016-07-15
Is it just me seeing them or there are still microshutters with the new firmware? :\
And as I see HiMedia didn't states that it is fixed they say "improved".
Actually they are even more noticeable now then before. Maybe it's just this video I will try another one later.
RE: HiMedia Q5/Q10 Pro (2016) with Kodi: Reviews & Utilization - hdmkv - 2016-07-15
Hmm, that isn't encouraging... what framerate videos did you play? I ask as framerate switching for 29.970 and 59.940 are supposed to come with next f/w. This only was to have added support for all resolutions of 23.976, 24.000 and 25.000.
RE: HiMedia Q5/Q10 Pro (2016) with Kodi: Reviews & Utilization - aelfwine - 2016-07-15
About 2-3 hours of different 720p 23.976fps videos (x264 bluray rips). However I notice somewhat less shutters with imprex disabled but thats maybe just a coincidence.
I use 1080p 50Hz display setting (FHD TV) with 24Hz option enabled. Just like with 1.0.3.
However I don't think this has anything to do with the framerate switch bug. I think this is still the 23.976 microshutters on any resolution problem.
I will do a few more hours of testing and if the problem is constant I will try to downgrade to 1.0.3.
Edit:
I try to experiencing various settings on the device (60Hz, 24Hz mode off, etc).
RE: HiMedia Q5/Q10 Pro (2016) with Kodi: Reviews & Utilization - aelfwine - 2016-07-15
It seems my old display setting (1080p/50Hz, 24Hz mode on) was not working with the new firmware. I configured 1080p/60Hz and 24Hz mode off and the microshutters are gone (or very rare). I keep testing but this looks promising.