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RE: HiMedia Q5 Pro / Q10 Pro with Kodi: Reviews & User Impressions - OlivierQC - 2016-04-15

I can't, i do not have enough message

Sorry


RE: HiMedia Q5 Pro / Q10 Pro with Kodi: Reviews & User Impressions - hdmkv - 2016-04-15

Halfway through my tests... Q10 Pro is a winner! Only real issue so far? Left/right eye-swap for 3D not working.

4K is awesome. 3D is very good. Plays even 300Mbps bitrate clip w/o a sweat! (No real-world 4K will ever go that high!) PQ is an 'A'. HiMedia has (almost) hit it out of the park w/this box!

Other bug I've seen so far is that 10-bit HDR videos won't play (even down-rezzed) on my 4K or 1080p displays (audio, but no video). My 4K TV is 8-bit w/o HDR, but Q10 Pro should still downsample and display 10-bit HDR. It did w/my pre-production sample on a previous firmware.

Full review will be posted by close of Friday USA EDT, with a new video demo!


RE: HiMedia Q5 Pro / Q10 Pro with Kodi: Reviews & User Impressions - lalootre - 2016-04-15

Hi !

I have several bug ..

- Autoswitch 1080p@24 does not work
( I have to choose 4k@24 or 1080@24)

- Movies under kodi does not start with the wrapper ?!


RE: HiMedia Q5 Pro / Q10 Pro with Kodi: Reviews & User Impressions - Skank - 2016-04-15

(2016-04-15, 02:33)hdmkv Wrote: Halfway through my tests... Q10 Pro is a winner! Only real issue so far? Left/right eye-swap for 3D not working.

4K is awesome. 3D is very good. Plays even 300Mbps bitrate clip w/o a sweat! (No real-world 4K will ever go that high!) PQ is an 'A'. HiMedia has (almost) hit it out of the park w/this box!

Other bug I've seen so far is that 10-bit HDR videos won't play (even down-rezzed) on my 4K or 1080p displays (audio, but no video). My 4K TV is 8-bit w/o HDR, but Q10 Pro should still downsample and display 10-bit HDR. It did w/my pre-production sample on a previous firmware.

Full review will be posted by close of Friday USA EDT, with a new video demo!

So conclusion if u compare to intel nuc?


RE: HiMedia Q5 Pro / Q10 Pro with Kodi: Reviews & User Impressions - Tricky-Ricky - 2016-04-15

(2016-04-15, 02:33)hdmkv Wrote: Halfway through my tests... Q10 Pro is a winner! Only real issue so far? Left/right eye-swap for 3D not working.

4K is awesome. 3D is very good. Plays even 300Mbps bitrate clip w/o a sweat! (No real-world 4K will ever go that high!) PQ is an 'A'. HiMedia has (almost) hit it out of the park w/this box!

Other bug I've seen so far is that 10-bit HDR videos won't play (even down-rezzed) on my 4K or 1080p displays (audio, but no video). My 4K TV is 8-bit w/o HDR, but Q10 Pro should still downsample and display 10-bit HDR. It did w/my pre-production sample on a previous firmware.

Full review will be posted by close of Friday USA EDT, with a new video demo!


10 bit HDR no playing is a worry, I have a 10 bit panel and its capable of HDR, which I want to make use of as more titles become available.
Along with the issue reported by lalootre, but I guess there are going to be some small bugs to start with, which I hope will be quickly fixed.

Any updates on a posting date for batch 1?


RE: HiMedia Q5 Pro / Q10 Pro with Kodi: Reviews & User Impressions - PJDavis1970 - 2016-04-15

(2016-04-15, 11:38)Tricky-Ricky Wrote:
(2016-04-15, 02:33)hdmkv Wrote: Halfway through my tests... Q10 Pro is a winner! Only real issue so far? Left/right eye-swap for 3D not working.

4K is awesome. 3D is very good. Plays even 300Mbps bitrate clip w/o a sweat! (No real-world 4K will ever go that high!) PQ is an 'A'. HiMedia has (almost) hit it out of the park w/this box!

Other bug I've seen so far is that 10-bit HDR videos won't play (even down-rezzed) on my 4K or 1080p displays (audio, but no video). My 4K TV is 8-bit w/o HDR, but Q10 Pro should still downsample and display 10-bit HDR. It did w/my pre-production sample on a previous firmware.

Full review will be posted by close of Friday USA EDT, with a new video demo!


10 bit HDR no playing is a worry, I have a 10 bit panel and its capable of HDR, which I want to make use of as more titles become available.
Along with the issue reported by lalootre, but I guess there are going to be some small bugs to start with, which I hope will be quickly fixed.

Any updates on a posting date for batch 1?

Shipping today


RE: HiMedia Q5 Pro / Q10 Pro with Kodi: Reviews & User Impressions - Tricky-Ricky - 2016-04-15

That sounds good, so could be arriving tomorrow if sent as next day. Big Grin


RE: HiMedia Q5 Pro / Q10 Pro with Kodi: Reviews & User Impressions - noggin - 2016-04-15

(2016-04-15, 11:38)Tricky-Ricky Wrote:
(2016-04-15, 02:33)hdmkv Wrote: Halfway through my tests... Q10 Pro is a winner! Only real issue so far? Left/right eye-swap for 3D not working.

4K is awesome. 3D is very good. Plays even 300Mbps bitrate clip w/o a sweat! (No real-world 4K will ever go that high!) PQ is an 'A'. HiMedia has (almost) hit it out of the park w/this box!

Other bug I've seen so far is that 10-bit HDR videos won't play (even down-rezzed) on my 4K or 1080p displays (audio, but no video). My 4K TV is 8-bit w/o HDR, but Q10 Pro should still downsample and display 10-bit HDR. It did w/my pre-production sample on a previous firmware.

Full review will be posted by close of Friday USA EDT, with a new video demo!


10 bit HDR no playing is a worry, I have a 10 bit panel and its capable of HDR, which I want to make use of as more titles become available.
Along with the issue reported by lalootre, but I guess there are going to be some small bugs to start with, which I hope will be quickly fixed.

Any updates on a posting date for batch 1?

What flavours of HDR does your panel accept? There are at least three main HDR standards flying around : Dolby Vision, HDR-10 (these are the two UHD HDR Blu-ray formats), and HLG (which is looking like a strong possibility for broadcast HDR)

Different content is likely to appear in different flavours - Dolby don't have a live multi camera solution at the moment (or didn't last I heard) for instance, so for live sport, Dolby Vision is a non-starter currently.


RE: HiMedia Q5 Pro / Q10 Pro with Kodi: Reviews & User Impressions - Tricky-Ricky - 2016-04-15

Samsung panel so HDR-10, which is what both Sony and Samsung have adopted.


RE: HiMedia Q5 Pro / Q10 Pro with Kodi: Reviews & User Impressions - noggin - 2016-04-15

(2016-04-15, 13:11)Tricky-Ricky Wrote: Samsung panel so HDR-10, which is what both Sony and Samsung have adopted.

Right. I know LG and a few others are hedging and supporting both HDR-10 and Dolby Vision on some displays. Be interesting to see how it pans out. The production requirements for Dolby Vision look... interesting...

Hybrid Log Gamma (aka HLG) is an interesting approach as it allows for backwards compatibility with SDR displays at the signal level (no need for conversion from HDR to SDR - the HDR signal degrades gracefully in SDR) Much more likely to be acceptable for Live broadcasting as it avoids simulcasting or HDR-aware receivers to do downconversion, and is also royalty-free (so manufacturers don't need to pay Dolby for every single bit of kit in the chain to have a bit of 'Dolby magic' in them) It's already been demonstrated working for live multi-camera production too. LG announced support for it on their OLED UHD displays here : http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/lg-4k-hdr-201511064202.htm


RE: HiMedia Q5 Pro / Q10 Pro with Kodi: Reviews & User Impressions - PJDavis1970 - 2016-04-15

(2016-04-15, 12:48)Tricky-Ricky Wrote: That sounds good, so could be arriving tomorrow if sent as next day. Big Grin

I paid for next day Smile Fun weekend for me


RE: HiMedia Q5 Pro / Q10 Pro with Kodi: Reviews & User Impressions - hdmkv - 2016-04-15

(2016-04-15, 08:12)lalootre Wrote: Autoswitch 1080p@24 does not work
( I have to choose 4k@24 or 1080@24)

- Movies under kodi does not start with the wrapper ?!
Leave UI at 1080p/60 or 2160p/60... whatever your display is. When you play actual 23.976 content, HiMedia's HiSilicon-based player will play in proper 23.976. This is for 1080p/23.976. I can't confirm for 4K 23.976 as my 4K display does not provide input signal details. The TV supports 24p, but I have to eyeball to guess if video playback free of microstutters or frame skips. Anyone have a pendulum or motion bars type 2160p/23.976 test video?

What do you mean by second bit? If you've first opened Kodi, then quit, and then installed the wrapper I provided link to, then Kodi will use wrapper to use HiMedia's HiSilicon-based native player.

(2016-04-15, 08:26)Skank Wrote: So conclusion if u compare to intel nuc?
Intel MVC PQ > Q10 Pro's. But, for 4K, Intel not quite there yet (waiting for Kaby Lake platform). IMHO, Q10 Pro's 4K performance > nVidia Shield's. Smoother playback, zero banding compared to Shield.

(2016-04-15, 11:38)Tricky-Ricky Wrote: 10 bit HDR no playing is a worry...
Agree, but HiMedia should be able to address this. HDR 10-bit should play in non-HDR, 8-bit 4K displays like mine, and even in 1080p projectors; doesn't in either. It did play with an earlier firmware in SDR mode. Already brought to HiMedia's attention, but will revisit all issues still present since pre-production.

(2016-04-15, 13:08)noggin Wrote: What flavours of HDR does your panel accept? There are at least three main HDR standards flying around : Dolby Vision, HDR-10 (these are the two UHD HDR Blu-ray formats), and HLG (which is looking like a strong possibility for broadcast HDR)
Q10 Pro supports HDR-10 and DolbyVision. W/former, there are yet two sub-types? There always seem to be standardization battles greeting new formats, and causing early adopters headaches Rolleyes.


RE: HiMedia Q5 Pro / Q10 Pro with Kodi: Reviews & User Impressions - Skank - 2016-04-15

Its hard to decide
Q10 pro vs intel nuc

But if you are straight decide i think you should put Q10 pro on top of the complete list cause
Q10 pro does full 4k , nuc not yet, has hdr and dolby vision and hmdi 2.0
Intel nuc is lovely cause of no need wrapper, but its all experimantal yet..
So in fact untill its mainstream , you should put it beneath Q10 pro

However i do plan to use nuc above Q10pro cause i dont need 4k yet, and i prefer no wrapper..
but its still experimental

You know/understand what i mean?


RE: HiMedia Q5 Pro / Q10 Pro with Kodi: Reviews & User Impressions - hdmkv - 2016-04-15

Yep... based on what you just stated, Intel NUC is the better option for you. Better 3D PQ and no wrapper. As added bonus, you get HD Netflix, HD Amazon VOD and other streaming if that matters to you vs. 480p-capped tablet versions on Q10 Pro as with most Android boxes.

Intel MVC option came as a great surprise this year and totally made deciding on a single box more difficult Smile. Not that you have to. I mean when you're spending lot$ more on ATMOS/DTS:X AVR set-up, media players are the cheaper h/w in the equation. I'm not picking between Intel and Q10 Pro, but holding on to both champs for different reasons. (Thankfully, I didn't have to buy the latter Wink, but I would.) Now, if nVidia surprises us and adds MVC, and HDR/DolbyVision for 4K as expected, then it'll get even harder. nVidia seems a long shot though, but who knows.


RE: HiMedia Q5 Pro / Q10 Pro with Kodi: Reviews & User Impressions - Skank - 2016-04-15

(2016-04-15, 14:13)hdmkv Wrote: Yep... based on what you just stated, Intel NUC is the better option for you. Better 3D PQ and no wrapper. As added bonus, you get HD Netflix, HD Amazon VOD and other streaming if that matters to you vs. 480p-capped tablet versions on Q10 Pro as with most Android boxes.

Intel MVC option came as a great surprise this year and totally made deciding on a single box more difficult Smile. Not that you have to. I mean when you're spending lot$ more on ATMOS/DTS:X AVR set-up, media players are the cheaper h/w in the equation. I'm not picking between Intel and Q10 Pro, but holding on to both champs for different reasons. (Thankfully, I didn't have to buy the latter Wink, but I would.) Now, if nVidia surprises us and adds MVC, and HDR/DolbyVision for 4K as expected, then it'll get even harder. nVidia seems a long shot though, but who knows.

MVC, hdr and dolby vision will happen to shield? omg