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Bug Report: Subtitles always rendered independent of settings - thegooddoctor - 2016-08-22

The problem: Subtitles always being rendered independent of settings
OS tested: Windows and LibreElec (RPi) and problem apparent with both systems
Test File: Angry Birds 2016 1080p 3D BluRay Half-OU x264 AC3-JYK torrent (recent 3D JYK releases demonstrate this bug)
Does not matter if the video is rendered as 2D or 3D.
(I attempted to provide a clip but the subtitle bug was not present with the clip)


Media Info:
Code:
General
Complete name               : \\Angry Birds 2016 1080p 3D BluRay Half-OU x264 AC3-JYK.mkv
Format                      : Matroska
Format version              : Version 2
File size                   : 5.48 GiB
Duration                    : 1h 37mn
Overall bit rate            : 8 067 Kbps
Encoded date                : UTC 2016-08-01 10:31:12
Writing application         : mkvmerge v8.5.2 ('Crosses') 32bit
Writing library             : libebml v1.3.3 + libmatroska v1.4.4
DURATION                    : 01:30:18.079000000
NUMBER_OF_FRAMES            : 2836
NUMBER_OF_BYTES             : 10201343
_STATISTICS_WRITING_APP     : mkvmerge v8.5.2 ('Crosses') 32bit
_STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UT : 2016-08-01 10:31:12
_STATISTICS_TAGS            : BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES

Video
ID                          : 1
Format                      : AVC
Format/Info                 : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile              : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC      : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames   : 4 frames
Codec ID                    : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                    : 1h 37mn
Bit rate                    : 6 750 Kbps
Width                       : 1 920 pixels
Height                      : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio        : 16:9
Frame rate mode             : Constant
Frame rate                  : 23.976 fps
Color space                 : YUV
Chroma subsampling          : 4:2:0
Bit depth                   : 8 bits
Scan type                   : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)          : 0.136
Stream size                 : 4.50 GiB (82%)
Writing library             : x264 core 148 r2638 7599210
Encoding settings           : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=30 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=2 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=4 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=5 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=6750 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=1 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=62500 / vbv_bufsize=78125 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Language                    : English
Default                     : Yes
Forced                      : No
DURATION                    : 01:37:13.828000000
NUMBER_OF_FRAMES            : 139872
NUMBER_OF_BYTES             : 4921752020
_STATISTICS_WRITING_APP     : mkvmerge v8.5.2 ('Crosses') 32bit
_STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UT : 2016-08-01 10:31:12
_STATISTICS_TAGS            : BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES

Audio #1
ID                          : 2
Format                      : AC-3
Format/Info                 : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension              : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID                    : A_AC3
Duration                    : 1h 37mn
Bit rate mode               : Constant
Bit rate                    : 640 Kbps
Channel(s)                  : 6 channels
Channel positions           : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate               : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode            : Lossy
Stream size                 : 445 MiB (8%)
Language                    : English
Default                     : Yes
Forced                      : No

Audio #2
ID                          : 3
Format                      : AC-3
Format/Info                 : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension              : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID                    : A_AC3
Duration                    : 1h 37mn
Bit rate mode               : Constant
Bit rate                    : 640 Kbps
Channel(s)                  : 6 channels
Channel positions           : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate               : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode            : Lossy
Stream size                 : 445 MiB (8%)
Language                    : Korean
Default                     : No
Forced                      : No

Text #1
ID                          : 4
Format                      : PGS
Muxing mode                 : zlib
Codec ID                    : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info               : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language                    : English
Default                     : Yes
Forced                      : No

Text #2
ID                          : 5
Format                      : PGS
Muxing mode                 : zlib
Codec ID                    : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info               : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language                    : Korean
Default                     : No
Forced                      : No

Menu
00:00:00.000                : en:Chapter 01
00:07:05.091                : en:Chapter 02
00:13:38.108                : en:Chapter 03
00:20:22.638                : en:Chapter 04
00:25:38.620                : en:Chapter 05
00:32:57.392                : en:Chapter 06
00:38:34.812                : en:Chapter 07
00:41:36.327                : en:Chapter 08
00:47:12.955                : en:Chapter 09
00:52:04.287                : en:Chapter 10
00:56:07.697                : en:Chapter 11
00:59:08.711                : en:Chapter 12
01:03:43.319                : en:Chapter 13
01:11:45.801                : en:Chapter 14
01:18:55.522                : en:Chapter 15
01:23:54.821                : en:Chapter 16

Bug Reported to main KODI bug tracker on 16/09/24.

RE: Bug Report: Subtitles always rendered independent of settings - nickr - 2016-08-22

debug log (wiki)

RE: Bug Report: Subtitles always rendered independent of settings - thegooddoctor - 2016-08-23

Image
this was the 2D conversion on Win7; again problem apparent on both Win7 and RPi (only two that I tested; therefore OS independent)
(and the subs are not hardcoded as MPC does not render the subs)

debug log

RE: Bug Report: Subtitles always rendered independent of settings - nickr - 2016-08-24

I downloaded the video to try it.

Press L on the keyboard (or an equivalent remote key) to cycle through the subtitles, including "disabled"

Something has changed though.

RE: Bug Report: Subtitles always rendered independent of settings - thegooddoctor - 2016-08-25

(2016-08-24, 09:23)nickr Wrote: I downloaded the video to try it.
thank you

(2016-08-24, 09:23)nickr Wrote: Press L on the keyboard (or an equivalent remote key) to cycle through the subtitles, including "disabled"
I did that as well, and even when the subtitles are disabled they are shown.
Now if you do select disabled (cycling through via the "L" key, it does take a few seconds for the subs to switch)

(2016-08-24, 09:23)nickr Wrote: Something has changed though.
I am not really quite sure what you meant with that comment (could someone clarify what he meant?)Huh

RE: Bug Report: Subtitles always rendered independent of settings - nickr - 2016-08-25

I mean in 16 you could cycle (including disable) quite simply with 't'. It doesn't seem to work quite the same in Krypton. I am pretty sure the 'l' is new. More investigation required.

RE: Bug Report: Subtitles always rendered independent of settings - thegooddoctor - 2016-08-25

even though you can cycle through the subtitles, selecting 'disabled' still has the subtitles rendered
i did, however, find that cycling via the key "L" and selecting disabled would take a few seconds before the subtitles began to render again (again the subtitles were set to be disabled)

RE: Bug Report: Subtitles always rendered independent of settings - host505 - 2016-08-26

(2016-08-25, 04:46)nickr Wrote: I mean in 16 you could cycle (including disable) quite simply with 't'. It doesn't seem to work quite the same in Krypton. I am pretty sure the 'l' is new. More investigation required.
I think t enables/disables subtitles. L cycles through languages (including disable).
I don't think this has changed in v17.

RE: Bug Report: Subtitles always rendered independent of settings - nickr - 2016-08-27

Indeed @host505 you are right. All these years I thought my remote was sending the equivalent of 'T', but it was 'L'.

Anyway, perhaps the subs in this video are forced?

RE: Bug Report: Subtitles always rendered independent of settings - thegooddoctor - 2016-08-27

(2016-08-27, 04:50)nickr Wrote: Anyway, perhaps the subs in this video are forced?

if you look at the media info provided, none of the subtitles are forced (and neither are the subtitles hardcoded)

RE: Bug Report: Subtitles always rendered independent of settings - nickr - 2016-08-27

Yes but wondering what kodi is seeing.

RE: Bug Report: Subtitles always rendered independent of settings - Glyphs - 2016-08-30

Can you try with some other video files?

RE: Bug Report: Subtitles always rendered independent of settings - thegooddoctor - 2016-09-01

(2016-08-30, 22:55)Glyphs Wrote: Can you try with some other video files?
"(recent 3D JYK releases demonstrate this bug)"
only recent 3D JYK MKV's demonstrated this bug ... (for clarity)

RE: Bug Report: Subtitles always rendered independent of settings - elindsey - 2016-09-03

Just found out I posted a duplicate thread, sorry about that...I did search the forum before I made my post but I must not have seen this one in the flood of "how to disable subtitles by default"...
http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=289333&pid=2407098&mode=

Anyways, even if the subtitles are forced, going to Preferred Subtitled Language and setting "None" instead of "Forced Only" or one of the default options should still override them, or am I misunderstanding that option?

Also, just want to point out that I was using Kodi 16.1, so this bug has been present at least since then.

RE: Bug Report: Subtitles always rendered independent of settings - elindsey - 2016-09-17

No more information on this?