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RE: Zidoo X9S, X8 & X10 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - hdmkv - 2018-05-13 (2018-05-13, 16:36)Skank Wrote: how's ur new 4k projector?Partially. At my budget ($3K), think Epson 5040UB is the best 4K + 3D combo PJ out there. Also tried BenQ HT2550 before settling on Epson. Considered Optoma UHD60 & 65, as well as Vivitek HK2288, but none of these support 3D. BenQ's contrast & colors are mediocre in comparison to Epson, even though details are slightly better. As Epson supports WCG, HDR has nice pop. Believe good HDR > 4K sharpness. What the BenQ does better is 3D w/no crosstalk or ghosting. Epson has mild crosstalk & ghosting, which is sometimes a bit annoying. For 4K, Epson's eShift technology really yields picture that's 2K max. And HDMI is only 10.2Gbps vs. 18, so no 10-bit 4K@60. This also causes issues with LibreELEC builds, and a bit of an annoyance w/nVidia Shield, needing to switch between 4K@60 at 8-bit for apps like PSVue/DirecTV Now and to [email protected] for 10/12-bit and HDR to work correctly. Hoping Epson release a 5050UB this Fall w/full 18Gbps support & further improved eShift for 4K. Would love to have a true 4K PJ around $3K, but looks like we're still a year or more away from it. RE: Zidoo X9S, X8 & X10 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - djnice - 2018-05-14 Please modify the picture quality in the first post to B, due to the banding and the white/chroma clipping. RE: Zidoo X9S, X8 & X10 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - sergejskr - 2018-05-14 (2018-05-13, 17:05)hdmkv Wrote:This won't be for several years I'm afraid, 3-4 years for sure. I would increase your budget and buy either Sony 4k native projector Lamp based or JVC with eshift, they are much better projectors than Epson 5050UB (but this is also a great projector).(2018-05-13, 16:36)Skank Wrote:Hoping Epson release a 5050UB this Fall w/full 18Gbps support & further improved eShift for 4K. Would love to have a true 4K PJ around $3K, but looks like we're still a year or more away from it. RE: Zidoo X9S, X8 & X10 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - hdmkv - 2018-05-15 (2018-05-14, 13:59)djnice Wrote: Please modify the picture quality in the first post to B, due to the banding and the white/chroma clipping.Agreed, grade adjusted. RE: Zidoo X9S, X8 & X10 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - lionne - 2018-05-16 (2018-05-09, 09:54)sergejskr Wrote:Wow, how nice of you to tell me how wrong everything I'm doing is. I have been posting for 3 months in here and also the Zidoo forums. I don't have multiple TVs - sorry, I'm not made of money. I'm posting what I felt might help - and, by the way, posting it in a (hopefully) easy to read and understand format. That's a lot better than a lot of posts I see. I have already talked in more detail about banding in previous posts. This was just basically a re-post. I don't see how using the AVS patterns would help as far as banding, since the whole point is finding a problematic video test file that is freely available that we can all use for reference. The file I linked to suits that purpose well. As I said, the Peanuts movie UHD also works well to show banding issues. Also the Revenant and Martian clips previously posted.(2018-05-08, 13:30)lionne Wrote:You cannot do reports like this.(2018-05-07, 11:18)sergejskr Wrote: In regards to bandings, you need to be very careful on relying someone feedback about that, from my own experience and being a member of avsforum for 6 years, calibrating many projectors and learning the curve, I can tell you for sure 80% of users don't understand how to setup TV or a projector correctly regarding the colorspace.I reported my findings with banding in-depth on the Zidoo forum as well as in here previously. As I described in my banding tests here a while back, the test file I have been using: RE: Zidoo X9S, X8 & X10 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - lionne - 2018-05-16 (2018-05-11, 21:30)wesk05 Wrote:(2018-05-11, 10:23)sergejskr Wrote: I will, but unfortunately very busy, that's a quick one for the image quality I've taken on iphone 8 - don't take it too seriously but obviously you can appreciate how the image looks. So the plot thickens. I would love to know if it really is the Zidoo causing the banding problems here. I am also very interested in the new Dune that just came out that uses the same chip as the x9s. It seems that player also has banding issues that owners are reporting. So is it a chip issue, a Zidoo issue, or a TV issue? That's the $100,000 question. RE: Zidoo X9S, X8 & X10 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - hdmkv - 2018-05-17 Good question. It will also be interesting to see how Zidoo X20 w/RTD1296 SoC fares. Should be sent to reviewers any day now. RE: Zidoo X9S, X8 & X10 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - vj950 - 2018-05-21 I am trying to understand why Zidoo Player can't play bluray menus when used as external player in ZDMC or with a regular file explorer vs when used in HomeTheater 2.0 and MediaCenter apps. This is true for both ISO and BDMV folders. Couldn't figure out what's different. If there is an explanation, could someone please explain me? thanks RE: Zidoo X9S, X8 & X10 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - looun - 2018-05-21 Full menu BD work only with file explorer or HomeTheater 2.0. ZDMC is nice only for TV show for "watch status", missing on HomeTheater. RE: Zidoo X9S, X8 & X10 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - riddle - 2018-05-21 =11ptI am realy intrested by direfence in PQ X9S vs X20... RE: Zidoo X9S, X8 & X10 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - hdmkv - 2018-05-21 Zidoo just put up the product pages for X20 & X20 Pro, so I assume they're getting closer. RE: Zidoo X9S, X8 & X10 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - lionne - 2018-05-21 Tried playing a 4k SDR (no HDR) video file last night and it wouldn't play - it was extremely choppy and wouldn't play smoothly - just chugging and freezing with weird motion. It's a newly-released 4k scan/file of the original Star Wars: A New Hope, released from the fan community. Here's the video specs: Writing application: mkvmerge v23.0.0 ('The Bride Said No') 64-bit Writing library: libebml v1.3.6 + libmatroska v1.4.9 Video ID:1 Format: HEVC Format/Info: High Efficiency Video Coding Format profile: Main [email protected]@high Codec ID: V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC Duration: 2 h 2 min Bit rate: 89.4 Mb/s Width: 3 840 pixels Height: 2 160 pixels Display aspect ratio: 16:9 Frame rate mode: Constant Frame rate: 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS Color space: YUV Chroma subsampling: 4:2:0 Bit depth: 10 bits Bits/(Pixel*Frame): 0.450 Stream size: 76.3 GiB (91%) Language: English Default: Yes Forced: No There are also 15 audio tracks. Based on this, can anyone guess why this won't play on the Zidoo? It played perfectly fine straight through without a single issue directly from my LG TV's built-in media player via USB thumb drive. The Zidoo should have easily played this. RE: Zidoo X9S, X8 & X10 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - vj950 - 2018-05-22 (2018-05-21, 09:50)looun Wrote: Full menu BD work only with file explorer or HomeTheater 2.0.Yes, that's correct. I am trying to understand why not with ZDMC. It also does not work with 3rd party file browser. I was hoping someone can explain me how the files/folders are passed by HomeTheater app to the zidoo internal player, so that it plays menus. Also, I have noticed a difference when loading menus vs playing files directly, both with external player. The "loading" rotating circle is blue for menus and white for direct file playback. I believe there is another app named "bluray menu" or something that loads first while playing menu. RE: Zidoo X9S, X8 & X10 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - looun - 2018-05-22 ZDMC not support full menu , why do you need 3rd party file browser !?! use file explorer . BD must be mount on file system as virtual . RE: Zidoo X9S, X8 & X10 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - gpmc - 2018-05-25 New firmware v2.0.25 is out! |