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RE: Zidoo X9S & X8 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - hausmanis - 2016-11-08

Hey guys

Got my Zidoo X9s today and followed the setting suggestions of this post.
Sound works perfect and the PQ is awesome (on my tv feels better than the himedia q10pro)

BUT the entire screen goes black like every 60seconds or so, then comes back on after 1-3 seconds

anyone else had this problem and might know whats wrong ?


RE: Zidoo X9S & X8 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - Skank - 2016-11-08

(2016-11-07, 04:54)mirror88 Wrote: Good news.Solved occasional green flashes/streak when playing 3D ISO issue today

That truly is great news! A critical bug fixed! I hope it actually is.
What was the problem?


RE: Zidoo X9S & X8 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - mirror88 - 2016-11-08

Anybody interested in X9S + OpenWRT + Tvheadend + USB DVB dongle + KODI Tvheadend IPTV add-on Smile

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RE: Zidoo X9S & X8 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - spawn_lmg - 2016-11-08

@mirror88
Mode 3840х[email protected] presents? mode generally have?
Why do you offer to switch to 60 Hz at 59.94 frames?


RE: Zidoo X9S & X8 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - wrxtasy - 2016-11-08

(2016-11-08, 08:53)mirror88 Wrote: Anybody interested in X9S + OpenWRT + Tvheadend + USB DVB dongle + KODI Tvheadend IPTV add-on Smile
Not if OTA DVB-T:
a) Does Not use Hardware deinterlacing OR
b) Does Not provide High Quality, Full Motion, deinterlaced video playback, when Software deinterlacing 1080i DVB mpeg2 and H264 streams. Wink


RE: Zidoo X9S & X8 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - Johnny_cass - 2016-11-08

(2016-11-08, 08:16)hausmanis Wrote: Hey guys

Got my Zidoo X9s today and followed the setting suggestions of this post.
Sound works perfect and the PQ is awesome (on my tv feels better than the himedia q10pro)

BUT the entire screen goes black like every 60seconds or so, then comes back on after 1-3 seconds

anyone else had this problem and might know whats wrong ?
Put deep colour to off and it should solve your problems.

Sent from my SM-G925F


RE: Zidoo X9S & X8 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - setumismo - 2016-11-08

(2016-11-06, 17:20)setumismo Wrote: Hello, I can not write to the USB hard drives that I have connected. Any idea why it can be?

I have firmware 1.2.6.

When using artwork download gives an error for failure to record in the USB.

Same type of error using solid Explorer.

Can anyone help with this?

The internal browser allows me to write content to USB, but Solid Explorer or Kodi can not (do not have permissions).

I need root??

No one else with this problem?


RE: Zidoo X9S & X8 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - mirror88 - 2016-11-08

(2016-11-08, 14:20)setumismo Wrote:
(2016-11-06, 17:20)setumismo Wrote: Hello, I can not write to the USB hard drives that I have connected. Any idea why it can be?

I have firmware 1.2.6.

When using artwork download gives an error for failure to record in the USB.

Same type of error using solid Explorer.

Can anyone help with this?

The internal browser allows me to write content to USB, but Solid Explorer or Kodi can not (do not have permissions).

I need root??

No one else with this problem?
http://forum.zidoo.tv/index.php?threads/how-to-access-external-storage-in-android6-0.3249/


RE: Zidoo X9S & X8 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - wolfrick - 2016-11-08

(2016-11-08, 08:16)hausmanis Wrote: Hey guys

Got my Zidoo X9s today and followed the setting suggestions of this post.
Sound works perfect and the PQ is awesome (on my tv feels better than the himedia q10pro)

BUT the entire screen goes black like every 60seconds or so, then comes back on after 1-3 seconds

anyone else had this problem and might know whats wrong ?

You should switch on auto 29..../59.... switch located under developer mode... you better leave auto 24.. off
if it doesn't work, change color mode to 4.2.2 also


RE: Zidoo X9S & X8 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - OlivierQC - 2016-11-08

i have Zidoo X8 since 4 days,

i did some tests with UHD/UHD HDR demo and i watched some movies too,

Here is a quick overview, i'm not an expert and it's just my feeling.

last sunday after some tests, i did an hard reset and i use now the following settings (see below)

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Equipment

Sony 65X930C
Onkyo 656
Focal dome 5.1.2
NAS personal cloud / SMB
zidoo X8 FW 1.2.6
Himedia Q10pro FW 1.0.8

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Settings

Android OS
HDMI Output: AUTO
SPDIF Output: RAW
HDMI Rx Audio Format: RAW
HDMI Rx Version: 2.0
Auto 1080P24: Enabled (disable with UHD Demo)
Auto 29.97/59.94Hz: Enabled (disable with UHD Demo)

Bluetooth : OFF

Resolution : AUTO/1080p60 (2160p60 with UHD Demo)
Deep color mode : AUTO
Space color mode : AUTO

ZDMC
play video with external player YES
Android, RAW Passthrough NO
Enable Passthrough NO
Enable Dolby Digital (AC3) Capable Receiver NO
Enable Dolby Digital (AC3) Transcoding NO
Enable Dolby Digital plus (E-AC3) Transcoding NO
DTS capable receiver NO
TrueHD capable receiver NO
DTS HD capable receiver NO

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The startup time is average and we land on the home page with grey tiles. The home screen is nicer then the Q10pro.

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For the moment, the box is stable. No lag or freeze. It is reassuring...

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UHD/UHD HDR

i have watched several UHD and UHD HDR Demo of LG, Sony and Samsung and have not noticed any issue,
the picture and the sound are perfect in my case.

But :

- The HDMI does not work in auto mode.



- The HDR only works in 2160p mode and the strays active even after exiting the demo UHD HDR

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- when the HDMI Mode set to AUTO and the auto1080p24 and auto29.97/59.94 are active, the HDR does not work in 2160p60 but request to pass to 1080p

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In short, when i want to watch an UHD HDR Demo i must turn off the Auto 1080P24/auto29.97/59.94 and use the HDMI Mode 2160p60, when I am done, a manual adjustment needs to be done to the deep color mode or HDMI mode for the TV to exit the HDR mode

i hope zidoo will fixed this issue.

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MKV/BDMV/ISO 2D

Picture and sound works properly, I have not noticed issue for now. (I will continue to check with the next movies)

(about the audio lag with the DTS HD soundtrack, Mirro88 said zidoo has fixed the issue)

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ISO 3D

i will test 3D ISO movies this week.

(about green flash, mirror88 said zidoo has fixed the issue)

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Picture Quality :

i know that is subjective as said hdmkv, but to be honest, I did notice a difference between both (zidoo and Himedia)

PQ is better with zidoo X8

iso 3d depth is better with Zidoo X8

There's not much more to say.

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Rii Mini i8

i tried the Rii mini I8 and it's work.

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Zidoo Remote

I have turn off the bluetooth of zidoo x8 because my remote does not work properly, All went back to normal after turning off the Bluetooth.
(For your information, i have had the same problem with my receiver onkyo and its remote, All went back to normal after turning off the Bluetooth

The only negative thing is that we must point the remote properly in face of the zidoo X8 or else it does not work.

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The wifi antenna cannot be removed from box. Too bad we can’t leave them hidden in the back fo the box with the rj45/hdmi slots.
We have no choice to leave in the upright position.

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I used Titan skin since 3 years and i have never had problems with it

I have this problem with zidoo/ZDMC ( see picture), I do not know if it is a comptability problem between ZDMC and the skin Titan.

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Did anybody else report this type of issue between their skin and ZDMC ?

EDIT
hdmkv said : skins, your weird font/text issue should be resolved by choosing 'Default' for font instead of 'Arial' in ZDMC settings.

i will try tonight thanks hdmkv Smile

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In conclusion :

- At this time i no longer use my Q10pro, my preference is for Zidoo X8, it is recent but it offers a lot and the follow up is perfect for the moment.

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Have nice day

OlivierQC


RE: Zidoo X9S & X8 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - movie78 - 2016-11-08

Nice review..

Why is it that your 5.0 settings look upside down?Big Grin

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RE: Zidoo X9S & X8 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - looun - 2016-11-08

(2016-11-08, 17:12)movie78 Wrote: Nice review..

Why is it that your 5.0 settings look upside down?Big Grin

Quote !

maybe he live in a "Inception" house Big Grin
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RE: Zidoo X9S & X8 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - hdmkv - 2016-11-08

Saw Marvel's "Doctor Strange" in IMAX 3D yesterday... and there's plenty of that kind of effect. Awesome movie, w/awesome visuals and 3D effects Big Grin!

Nice, straightforward review @OlivierQC. Linked to it from post #1.

(2016-11-08, 16:44)OlivierQC Wrote: In short, when i want to watch an UHD HDR Demo i must turn off the Auto 1080P24/auto29.97/59.94 and when I am done, a manual adjustment needs to be done to the deep color mode or HDMI mode for the TV to exit the HDR mode

i hope zidoo will fixed this issue.

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I used Titan skin since 3 years and i have never had problems with it

I have this problem with zidoo/ZDMC ( see picture), I do not know if it is a comptability problem between ZDMC and the skin Titan.

Did anybody else report this type of issue between their skin and ZDMC ?

Re: 4K HDR and proper framerates, @wesk05 and @DaMacFunkin have reported what you have. Thankfully you guys have decent 4K displays w/HDR (or proper testing equipment) to see the issue. Hope Zidoo will address... I hope to get the Epson 5040 4K HDR PJ at some point.

Re: skins, your weird font/text issue should be resolved by choosing 'Default' for font instead of 'Arial' in ZDMC settings.


RE: Zidoo X9S & X8 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - wesk05 - 2016-11-08

(2016-11-08, 17:12)movie78 Wrote: Why is it that your 5.0 settings look upside down?Big Grin
The two on the top are the height channels. He has a 5.1.2 system. From the looks I think he has this system


RE: Zidoo X9S & X8 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions - hdmkv - 2016-11-08

So, wondering why he's choosing "no" for all these? @OlivierQC, I'm assuming you have an AVR powering those speakers? Like w/HiMedia, probably doesn't matter when external player is launched. But w/Zidoo, HD audio works w/ZDMC as well. Just not 3D MVC, and that PQ isn't as good as external/native.

Quote:ZDMC
play video with external player YES
Android, RAW Passthrough NO
Enable Passthrough NO
Enable Dolby Digital (AC3) Capable Receiver NO
Enable Dolby Digital (AC3) Transcoding NO
Enable Dolby Digital plus (E-AC3) Transcoding NO
DTS capable receiver NO
TrueHD capable receiver NO
DTS HD capable receiver NO

Forgot to mention, I ran into one BD rip that the external/native player refused to play for whatever reason (maybe as it's 1080i), but ZDMC did...

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