(2018-01-25, 22:11)tehax Wrote: In music settings i activate disable screen saver when playing music but my ftv or Dim screen saver still starts. Can someone confim this?

(2018-01-25, 22:29)Guilouz Wrote:

(2018-01-25, 22:08)kaybird Wrote: I'm new around here and have been doing lots of reading. Some quick questions please:

1. The instructions say that once I have v18 nightly I should download your zip and install it. However earlier in that post (1st on this thread) it says there are a bunch of required repositories, required add-ons and additional add-ons. Will these be installed automatically when I install your skin or do I need to get them individually?

2. The first post here mentions a lot of info about API keys from various movie dbs. I mainly only care about IMDB.  Is it mandatory that I get a developer API key or it will work without one (and what's the downside if I don't get one)?

3. Most importantly: I have a 21:9 CIH screen with a 16:9 projector that I "zoom out" so that it fills the entire screen with just the video portion of the image. That works great, but then all the OSD controls during playback (like in the Pause menu or the area that shows the titles, time remaining etc) is then off the screen. Is there an option for the skin to layout for a 21:9. So as far as Kodi is concerned, I still want it to display the video in a 16:9 frame, which is then zoomed so the black bars are off the screen.  But what I'm looking for is a way to MOVE the bottom OSD row from the playback pause screen up so that its within the bottom area of the video, and likewise I want to move the top area of the OSD down so its within the top area of the video. Does your skin support this?

4. If the skin does not support what I want to do in #3, can you please point me (newbie) to information on how I could go about modifying this or the default Estuary so that I reposition these OSD elements (playback controls, tags etc) higher and lower?

Thank you.

1. Others repository need to be installed manually too. Necessary addons will be installed automatically, but for others just go in skin settings -> necessary addons and you will be able to install them.

2. With Artworks Beef it is now no longer necessary to have API keys for artworks but for some info used by Skin Helper Service they are necessary. If you don't have API keys it's not very important.

3. No, Estuary is designed to use it in 16:9 or in 21:9 but not for 16:9 zoomed in 21:9. this is all resolution you can use without issue :

width="1920" height="1440" aspect="4:3"
width="1920" height="1280" aspect="3:2"
width="1920" height="1200" aspect="16:10"
width="2040" height="1080" aspect="17:9"
width="1920" height="1080" aspect="16:9"
width="2338" height="1080" aspect="19.5:9"
width="2160" height="1080" aspect="18:9"
width="2560" height="1080" aspect="21:9"

4. OSD are in VideoOSD.xml, MusicOSD.xml, Includes.xml. There is a lot of changes in my mod with OSD and I use many variables, animations etc... If you are newbie it may be complicated... 

(2018-01-25, 22:44)kaybird Wrote:

(2018-01-25, 22:29)Guilouz Wrote:

(2018-01-25, 22:08)kaybird Wrote: I'm new around here and have been doing lots of reading. Some quick questions please:

1. The instructions say that once I have v18 nightly I should download your zip and install it. However earlier in that post (1st on this thread) it says there are a bunch of required repositories, required add-ons and additional add-ons. Will these be installed automatically when I install your skin or do I need to get them individually?

2. The first post here mentions a lot of info about API keys from various movie dbs. I mainly only care about IMDB.  Is it mandatory that I get a developer API key or it will work without one (and what's the downside if I don't get one)?

3. Most importantly: I have a 21:9 CIH screen with a 16:9 projector that I "zoom out" so that it fills the entire screen with just the video portion of the image. That works great, but then all the OSD controls during playback (like in the Pause menu or the area that shows the titles, time remaining etc) is then off the screen. Is there an option for the skin to layout for a 21:9. So as far as Kodi is concerned, I still want it to display the video in a 16:9 frame, which is then zoomed so the black bars are off the screen.  But what I'm looking for is a way to MOVE the bottom OSD row from the playback pause screen up so that its within the bottom area of the video, and likewise I want to move the top area of the OSD down so its within the top area of the video. Does your skin support this?

4. If the skin does not support what I want to do in #3, can you please point me (newbie) to information on how I could go about modifying this or the default Estuary so that I reposition these OSD elements (playback controls, tags etc) higher and lower?

Thank you.

1. Others repository need to be installed manually too. Necessary addons will be installed automatically, but for others just go in skin settings -> necessary addons and you will be able to install them.

2. With Artworks Beef it is now no longer necessary to have API keys for artworks but for some info used by Skin Helper Service they are necessary. If you don't have API keys it's not very important.

3. No, Estuary is designed to use it in 16:9 or in 21:9 but not for 16:9 zoomed in 21:9. this is all resolution you can use without issue :

width="1920" height="1440" aspect="4:3"
width="1920" height="1280" aspect="3:2"
width="1920" height="1200" aspect="16:10"
width="2040" height="1080" aspect="17:9"
width="1920" height="1080" aspect="16:9"
width="2338" height="1080" aspect="19.5:9"
width="2160" height="1080" aspect="18:9"
width="2560" height="1080" aspect="21:9"

4. OSD are in VideoOSD.xml, MusicOSD.xml, Includes.xml. There is a lot of changes in my mod with OSD and I use many variables, animations etc... If you are newbie it may be complicated...  

 Thanks so much for the quick reply! Sounds a bit complicated then for me to shift the OSD up and down to fit it into the screen area - darn, I was hoping it would be something simple like just editing fixed pixel position coordinates (like changing 1200 to 1000 to shift it up by 200 pixels).

I've been searching all over these forums and the net and found lots of people it my same situation, but apparently no good solution. I found a couple of skins that seemed to be designed for this, however that means I can't use your excellent Estuary which I think is the best.  Is this something you would consider adding to your skin? Ideally it would be great if I could easily toggle between zoomed (shifted) and unzoomed (default) positioning (but without needing to use a mouse, as I have a Nvidia Shield with just a remote). Thank you very much again, I really appreciate it. 

(2018-01-25, 23:05)Guilouz Wrote:

(2018-01-25, 22:44)kaybird Wrote:

(2018-01-25, 22:29)Guilouz Wrote: 1. Others repository need to be installed manually too. Necessary addons will be installed automatically, but for others just go in skin settings -> necessary addons and you will be able to install them.

2. With Artworks Beef it is now no longer necessary to have API keys for artworks but for some info used by Skin Helper Service they are necessary. If you don't have API keys it's not very important.

3. No, Estuary is designed to use it in 16:9 or in 21:9 but not for 16:9 zoomed in 21:9. this is all resolution you can use without issue :

width="1920" height="1440" aspect="4:3"
width="1920" height="1280" aspect="3:2"
width="1920" height="1200" aspect="16:10"
width="2040" height="1080" aspect="17:9"
width="1920" height="1080" aspect="16:9"
width="2338" height="1080" aspect="19.5:9"
width="2160" height="1080" aspect="18:9"
width="2560" height="1080" aspect="21:9"

4. OSD are in VideoOSD.xml, MusicOSD.xml, Includes.xml. There is a lot of changes in my mod with OSD and I use many variables, animations etc... If you are newbie it may be complicated...  

 Thanks so much for the quick reply! Sounds a bit complicated then for me to shift the OSD up and down to fit it into the screen area - darn, I was hoping it would be something simple like just editing fixed pixel position coordinates (like changing 1200 to 1000 to shift it up by 200 pixels).

I've been searching all over these forums and the net and found lots of people it my same situation, but apparently no good solution. I found a couple of skins that seemed to be designed for this, however that means I can't use your excellent Estuary which I think is the best.  Is this something you would consider adding to your skin? Ideally it would be great if I could easily toggle between zoomed (shifted) and unzoomed (default) positioning (but without needing to use a mouse, as I have a Nvidia Shield with just a remote). Thank you very much again, I really appreciate it.  

 I have no idea how to do that, I don't have projector... Zoom is only when playing or all in the skin ? 

(2018-01-25, 23:30)kaybird Wrote:

(2018-01-25, 23:05)Guilouz Wrote:

(2018-01-25, 22:44)kaybird Wrote:  Thanks so much for the quick reply! Sounds a bit complicated then for me to shift the OSD up and down to fit it into the screen area - darn, I was hoping it would be something simple like just editing fixed pixel position coordinates (like changing 1200 to 1000 to shift it up by 200 pixels).

I've been searching all over these forums and the net and found lots of people it my same situation, but apparently no good solution. I found a couple of skins that seemed to be designed for this, however that means I can't use your excellent Estuary which I think is the best.  Is this something you would consider adding to your skin? Ideally it would be great if I could easily toggle between zoomed (shifted) and unzoomed (default) positioning (but without needing to use a mouse, as I have a Nvidia Shield with just a remote). Thank you very much again, I really appreciate it.  

 I have no idea how to do that, I don't have projector... Zoom is only when playing or all in the skin ?  

 Thanks for giving this some thought! When the pj is zoomed it is that way for the movie and also when outside of the movie, like in the main GUI/settings/movie wall selection page etc. So it would be a "nice to have" for the whole app/GUI to take this into consideration, but I primarily care about the OSD during playback. And only for movies. This movie playback area would be a great place to start as an experiment and see how well it worked, and then later perhaps based on demand expanding it to the whole skin down the road.

Just some quick background in case you are not familiar with the details.  And I speak for those of us that have 2.35-2.40 aspect ration wide screens in a CIH setup (fairly common for large projectors).  My screen is 2.35. So when I watch 16:9 content I have fairly large vertical black bars on each side of the image.  But with 2.35-2.40 aspect ratio movies, I zoom the projector out so that those black bars, as well as the top and bottom black bars (which is what you see in your 16:9 setup) are off the screen. This "magnifies" the image and fills the entire screen with the video area.  With the black bottom/top bars now off the screen.  So when the OSD is up, these are not visible.  To be visible, the playback OSD bottom bar OSD just needs to be shifted up by x pixels, and the top bar OSD down by the same x pixels.  

I'm not sure what the x pixel shift number actually is, but I'm sure there is a really simply fixed amount which can be easily determined (I just need to think about it a little bit more, it may be something like 25% decrease in height, so like 1620 pixels instead of 2160 for 4K).  The most versatile solution would be if you could input a "pixel shift" setting somewhere so that we can change it ourselves. I say that because some have a 2.0 aspect ration, 2.35, 2.37, and some 2.40.  The top and bottom shift amount would be the same, so it only needs one setting.  Also sometimes people with 2.35+ AR screen watch 16:9 movies expanded to close to 1.85, in which case they'd also want a little shift.  If your skin is variable based (sorry I know nothing about skins) then it could be as simple as "position+x" and "position-x" instead of just "position" for where you place the OSD elements (IOW just adding or subtracting an offset to each fixed position).  I'm also pretty sure this only affects shifting up and down - no adjustment is needed for shifting anything left/right.

Makes sense? I'm happy to do any testing or provide whatever feedback you need to try this or whatever else you may need.  Thank you again so much for considering this - it would really make the skin really exciting to all of us using projectors.

Oh! Also it may be really helpful if you take a look at this project https://github.com/Funkd/ScopeNox and see the readme - if I understand correctly the author took the Aeon Nox skin and changed it exactly for this purpose of zoomed projectors.  Although he may have done it for the entire skin including the OSD, whereas I mainly care about just the playback OSD just to try and keep things simple for now (or at least as a milestone). 

(2018-01-25, 23:53)Guilouz Wrote:

(2018-01-25, 23:30)kaybird Wrote:

(2018-01-25, 23:05)Guilouz Wrote:  I have no idea how to do that, I don't have projector... Zoom is only when playing or all in the skin ?  

 Thanks for giving this some thought! When the pj is zoomed it is that way for the movie and also when outside of the movie, like in the main GUI/settings/movie wall selection page etc. So it would be a "nice to have" for the whole app/GUI to take this into consideration, but I primarily care about the OSD during playback. And only for movies. This movie playback area would be a great place to start as an experiment and see how well it worked, and then later perhaps based on demand expanding it to the whole skin down the road.

Just some quick background in case you are not familiar with the details.  And I speak for those of us that have 2.35-2.40 aspect ration wide screens in a CIH setup (fairly common for large projectors).  My screen is 2.35. So when I watch 16:9 content I have fairly large vertical black bars on each side of the image.  But with 2.35-2.40 aspect ratio movies, I zoom the projector out so that those black bars, as well as the top and bottom black bars (which is what you see in your 16:9 setup) are off the screen. This "magnifies" the image and fills the entire screen with the video area.  With the black bottom/top bars now off the screen.  So when the OSD is up, these are not visible.  To be visible, the playback OSD bottom bar OSD just needs to be shifted up by x pixels, and the top bar OSD down by the same x pixels.  

I'm not sure what the x pixel shift number actually is, but I'm sure there is a really simply fixed amount which can be easily determined (I just need to think about it a little bit more, it may be something like 25% decrease in height, so like 1620 pixels instead of 2160 for 4K).  The most versatile solution would be if you could input a "pixel shift" setting somewhere so that we can change it ourselves. I say that because some have a 2.0 aspect ration, 2.35, 2.37, and some 2.40.  The top and bottom shift amount would be the same, so it only needs one setting.  Also sometimes people with 2.35+ AR screen watch 16:9 movies expanded to close to 1.85, in which case they'd also want a little shift.  If your skin is variable based (sorry I know nothing about skins) then it could be as simple as "position+x" and "position-x" instead of just "position" for where you place the OSD elements (IOW just adding or subtracting an offset to each fixed position).  I'm also pretty sure this only affects shifting up and down - no adjustment is needed for shifting anything left/right.

Makes sense? I'm happy to do any testing or provide whatever feedback you need to try this or whatever else you may need.  Thank you again so much for considering this - it would really make the skin really exciting to all of us using projectors.

Oh! Also it may be really helpful if you take a look at this project https://github.com/Funkd/ScopeNox and see the readme - if I understand correctly the author took the Aeon Nox skin and changed it exactly for this purpose of zoomed projectors.  Although he may have done it for the entire skin including the OSD, whereas I mainly care about just the playback OSD just to try and keep things simple for now (or at least as a milestone).  

I understand the principle but it causes to adapt all the skin. It would take too much work, it's a bit like this we started from scratch to create a skin. 

(2018-01-26, 01:45)kaybird Wrote:

(2018-01-25, 23:53)Guilouz Wrote:

(2018-01-25, 23:30)kaybird Wrote:  Thanks for giving this some thought! When the pj is zoomed it is that way for the movie and also when outside of the movie, like in the main GUI/settings/movie wall selection page etc. So it would be a "nice to have" for the whole app/GUI to take this into consideration, but I primarily care about the OSD during playback. And only for movies. This movie playback area would be a great place to start as an experiment and see how well it worked, and then later perhaps based on demand expanding it to the whole skin down the road.

Just some quick background in case you are not familiar with the details.  And I speak for those of us that have 2.35-2.40 aspect ration wide screens in a CIH setup (fairly common for large projectors).  My screen is 2.35. So when I watch 16:9 content I have fairly large vertical black bars on each side of the image.  But with 2.35-2.40 aspect ratio movies, I zoom the projector out so that those black bars, as well as the top and bottom black bars (which is what you see in your 16:9 setup) are off the screen. This "magnifies" the image and fills the entire screen with the video area.  With the black bottom/top bars now off the screen.  So when the OSD is up, these are not visible.  To be visible, the playback OSD bottom bar OSD just needs to be shifted up by x pixels, and the top bar OSD down by the same x pixels.  

I'm not sure what the x pixel shift number actually is, but I'm sure there is a really simply fixed amount which can be easily determined (I just need to think about it a little bit more, it may be something like 25% decrease in height, so like 1620 pixels instead of 2160 for 4K).  The most versatile solution would be if you could input a "pixel shift" setting somewhere so that we can change it ourselves. I say that because some have a 2.0 aspect ration, 2.35, 2.37, and some 2.40.  The top and bottom shift amount would be the same, so it only needs one setting.  Also sometimes people with 2.35+ AR screen watch 16:9 movies expanded to close to 1.85, in which case they'd also want a little shift.  If your skin is variable based (sorry I know nothing about skins) then it could be as simple as "position+x" and "position-x" instead of just "position" for where you place the OSD elements (IOW just adding or subtracting an offset to each fixed position).  I'm also pretty sure this only affects shifting up and down - no adjustment is needed for shifting anything left/right.

Makes sense? I'm happy to do any testing or provide whatever feedback you need to try this or whatever else you may need.  Thank you again so much for considering this - it would really make the skin really exciting to all of us using projectors.

Oh! Also it may be really helpful if you take a look at this project https://github.com/Funkd/ScopeNox and see the readme - if I understand correctly the author took the Aeon Nox skin and changed it exactly for this purpose of zoomed projectors.  Although he may have done it for the entire skin including the OSD, whereas I mainly care about just the playback OSD just to try and keep things simple for now (or at least as a milestone).  

I understand the principle but it causes to adapt all the skin. It would take too much work, it's a bit like this we started from scratch to create a skin.  

 I understand what you are saying. I was hoping there would be a more simple solution. Thank you for considering this request. Please keep an open mind about it as you continue to work on Estuary MOD, in case you have ideas about it. It would be huge for many of us to have this functionality. In the meantime, do you think there is a basic hack I can do to the default Estuary (either in v17 or v18) to make this change? I suppose the alternative may be to use something like ScopeNox - I prefer Estuary but at least I will be able to see the OSD controls!  

(2018-01-26, 04:57)kaybird Wrote: Thank you! I got your PM. However I am unable to send you a reply via PM or an email through this system. Maybe because my account is just a couple days old and or my post count is low? When I try to reply to your PM it takes me to a page that lists 4 reasons why I may not have permissions. But none of them apply, including the one that says I haven't activated yet, because I have... Ideas?

(2018-01-25, 22:14)Guilouz Wrote:

(2018-01-25, 19:34)effe.rnr Wrote: Hi,

first of all: Great Skin, thanks for the work!

I have one litte questions for setting my main menu:

I would like to open this screen, when I click on addons in the main menu



Is this posible or is it a Estuary Custom Window? If it's possible, how would be the window id?



thanks in advance!

(edited because two problems were solved by myself)

By default it's already the case (it's a custom window with ID 1100), you can use ActivateWindow(1100). 

(2018-01-26, 13:26)Guilouz Wrote:

(2018-01-26, 04:57)kaybird Wrote: Thank you! I got your PM. However I am unable to send you a reply via PM or an email through this system. Maybe because my account is just a couple days old and or my post count is low? When I try to reply to your PM it takes me to a page that lists 4 reasons why I may not have permissions. But none of them apply, including the one that says I haven't activated yet, because I have... Ideas?

 It seems to me that new accounts can not sent PM. Have you try my changes ? 

(2018-01-26, 19:06)effe.rnr Wrote:

(2018-01-25, 22:14)Guilouz Wrote:

(2018-01-25, 19:34)effe.rnr Wrote: Hi,

first of all: Great Skin, thanks for the work!

I have one litte questions for setting my main menu:

I would like to open this screen, when I click on addons in the main menu



Is this posible or is it a Estuary Custom Window? If it's possible, how would be the window id?



thanks in advance!

(edited because two problems were solved by myself)

By default it's already the case (it's a custom window with ID 1100), you can use ActivateWindow(1100).  

thanks a lot!

One more question:

Is it possible to change the default artwork which is shown when music is playing? 

(2018-01-26, 19:19)kaybird Wrote:

(2018-01-26, 13:26)Guilouz Wrote:

(2018-01-26, 04:57)kaybird Wrote: Thank you! I got your PM. However I am unable to send you a reply via PM or an email through this system. Maybe because my account is just a couple days old and or my post count is low? When I try to reply to your PM it takes me to a page that lists 4 reasons why I may not have permissions. But none of them apply, including the one that says I haven't activated yet, because I have... Ideas?

 It seems to me that new accounts can not sent PM. Have you try my changes ?  

Thank you. In order to try this I have to get Kodi 18 nightly installed (currently running 17.6). Please allow me to clarify a few things about installation.

Earlier I asked about how to install MOD 2 with dependencies and trying to understand what I had to install manually vs what would be downloaded/installed for me automatically. You said "Others repository need to be installed manually too. Necessary addons will be installed automatically, but for others just go in skin settings -> necessary addons and you will be able to install them." but I wasn't sure what that meant in terms of I needed to do. Can you please clarify? Something like:

- install Kodi 18 nightly (I know how to do this)
- next, install your skin from the zip file from your repo
- then I'm confused... just go to skin settings->necessary addons and download anything that shows up there, and then that's it? Or do I have to manually download/install other zips or from other repos?

Also regarding replacing the files in estuary folder, what's a good way to do that from the Nvidia Shield? I'm new to the Shield, Andriod and Kodi, but not new to computers. Just not sure what the full path is to the estuary folder and the best way to get the files from a USB stick to that. Or if you want to send me a test full zip I can install from that instead of the repo?

Thank you very much for your time and interest in this very exciting option to use MOD V2 with zoomed projectors. 

(2018-01-26, 19:53)tehax Wrote: Hello Guilouz, 
do you think you can assume the pvr guide changes introduced in This PR? And, you know, i wish season and episode in SxxExx format