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OSMC announced new Vero4k, opinions? - ActionA - 2017-02-24 Edit: by @wrxtasy to post the Mini review. Update - 11 Apr 2019 - the newer Vero 4K+ has super-seeded the older Vero 4K. The new device adds Gigabit Ethernet, so avoids High Bitrate Networking issues and adds slightly faster RAM and eMMC Storage with improved Chipset cooling. What is a Vero 4K ? (click)
AVS Forums - OSMC Vero 4K Media Streamer Review (click) Mini Review by @wrxtasy - Updated 10th March 2018 Disclaimer: I was sent a Vero 4K by @Sam.Nazarko a while ago but have waited until I received my Ugreen USB3 > Gigabit ethernet adapter before posting this Mini Review. More on that adapter in the review.... This review is going to mainly concentrate on the Plug n Play features of the Vero 4K as I believe that is it's target market. Features that can be used by a mainstream non-tech users out of the box without reverting to sometimes difficult Linux terminal commands. Especially when trying to mount SMB or NFS networked file shares via Linux fstab for 4K HDR networked streaming - a nightmare for non-tech users. The Good:
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Summary: The Vero 4K is a polished product, steadily improving with each almost monthly Firmware update. It benefit's from what is now a critical mass Open Sourced - AMLogic Linux Kodi eco-system. It's the fastest AMLogic S905X box I've used. AC WiFi for 1080p video playback works well and it's really nice to see an integrated Wireless remote included. Infra Red only control belongs in the media player dinosaur age. Some will question the price paid, but you are getting and all in one package here and excellent ongoing after sales support from the Vero 4K team. Often personalised from the developer(s) themselves. There have even been whispers of possible 1080p 3D Frame packed support. The Vero 4K target market is Not the cheap DIY AMLogic user base. Mainstream quibbles include the - hard for a first time Newbie - terminal commands like initially setting - 4:4:4, 10bit Chroma and bit depth for 4K HDR video playback. Those SDR or HDR settings options really need to be incorporated into the Kodi user interface settings ASAP. Does the Vero 4K hit it's Plug n Play SDR / 4K HDR target market objective, I would say definitely Yes. Thanks to Sam for the Vero 4K review hardware. W. RE: OSMC announced new Vero4k, opinions? - hdmkv - 2017-02-24 Wonder which SoC. Their product page doesn't say. RE: OSMC announced new Vero4k, opinions? - jjd-uk - 2017-02-24 It's most likely a Amlogic S905. RE: OSMC announced new Vero4k, opinions? - wrxtasy - 2017-02-24 AMLogic S905X I've been told, even then this was not 100% certified info. All S905X's do not come with Gigabit Ethernet. Notice how "Fast Ethernet" only is in the specs. RE: OSMC announced new Vero4k, opinions? - JonSnow88 - 2017-02-24 Main reason to buy is 5 year support and controlled/tested hardware but still seems pricey in the cheap android boxes world? I'd buy if the remote had a keyboard on the back like most air mouses. RE: OSMC announced new Vero4k, opinions? - illiac4 - 2017-02-24 Fast Ethernet stands for 100 Mbit/s RE: OSMC announced new Vero4k, opinions? - nickr - 2017-02-24 We know that. RE: OSMC announced new Vero4k, opinions? - gsmtech - 2017-02-24 If thats a S905X device it is very expensive. at 119 GBP .. I own a Mini M8S II with almost identical specs (S905X , 2GB RAM, 16GB Flash) which i purchased for 25 GBP while it was on promotion . Other than the superior WiFi spec of the Vero (AC WiFi) and software support... I don't see anything that indicates such a high price 119 GBP. Five year software support means very little when this hardware will be antique by that time the rate at which Amlogic throws out SOCS. OSMC itself is a great implementation of Kodi, I run it on my RPI 2 which stays on 24/7 and I have no issues with it, regular updates, no issues when upgrading directly from jarvis to krypton using auto update..etc. RE: OSMC announced new Vero4k, opinions? - thansen - 2017-02-25 Just ordered one to replace my RPi3. Looking forward to see how it performs. RE: OSMC announced new Vero4k, opinions? - pameijer - 2017-02-25 The previous 2 Vero's were almost identical to much cheaper devices. You only got the OSMC software and the promise of support. I bought the first Vero but it was a real disappointment, Very buggy, not well thought out. When the second Vero came I was tempted to buy it but the price was just way too high compared to similar hardware. I have spent a lot of time on the OSMC forum, and many people have many problems with the Vero. I won't buy one anymore from Sam. I have enjoyed is CrystalBuntu software for many years on my Apple TV 1st Gen, rocksolid performance. But now there are better options, LibreElec for example. RE: OSMC announced new Vero4k, opinions? - thansen - 2017-02-25 (2017-02-25, 12:11)pameijer Wrote: You only got the OSMC software and the promise of support Remember, the Software is one of the most important things in such a device. You can have a great device with crappy software and the whole experience is ruined. In my opinion OSMC is a great implementation of kodi. I have been running OSMC on several different devices over the years and it has been very stable. (2017-02-25, 12:11)pameijer Wrote: I bought the first Vero but it was a real disappointmentI agree about the first Vero, it was not the best, I had to modify it with an external antenna to get the Wifi working. I actually still use it in the bedroom. (2017-02-25, 12:11)pameijer Wrote: I have spent a lot of time on the OSMC forum, and many people have many problems with the VeroIn my opinion you can not tell if there is a problem with the Vero from the forum alone, the forum is for support and people usually only post there if there is a problem. You don't know how many items is sold and how many is satisfied with it and simply not posting because they are happy with the product. What i know is AMLogic S905X is a great SoC for running Kodi, so lets see how well the OSMC team does with the new Vero 4K. I am looking forward to receive my Vero 4K. RE: OSMC announced new Vero4k, opinions? - Peekstra - 2017-02-25 I also couldn't resist and ordered the Vero 3. Over on the OSMC forum Sam mentioned Atmos and DTS:X work. We know people have been after this for a while. No Dolby Vision. HDR is supported, but may not always look good on your TV I guess that the 905X processor is powering the Vero 3 as it can't do Dolby Vision? http://www.cnx-software.com/2015/12/17/amlogic-s905m-and-s912-processors-to-support-4k-vp9-hdmi-2-0a-built-in-dac-and-more/ Personally, I don't worry about the lack of 1Gb ethernet as Sam wrote that this isn't very useful and can cause problems: We played up to 600Mbps clips for demoing and testing the hardware. I don't consider this typical however and don't believe it will be the norm for a long, long time. Gigabit Ethernet would be nice, as we could've ticked that box, but having gone down this path before, we have seen issues that we would have never expected (flow control). RE: OSMC announced new Vero4k, opinions? - noggin - 2017-02-25 (2017-02-25, 13:47)Peekstra Wrote: HDR is supported, but may not always look good on your TV[/i] I wonder what 'supported' means. I can play back HDR10 HEVC 2160/59.94p stuff on my S905 boxes (which don't technically have HDR support). It looks horrid presumably as it is being replayed and displayed as if it is 709 (not Rec 2020) and isn't being displayed with PQ and the EOTF that HDR10 uses. The question is whether this is what 'may not always look good on your TV' means... I think for HDR10 to be replayed properly - you need to ensure that metadata is passed through too, and that you have a transparent 10-bit path from source to display? Not sure AMLogic Kodi boxes running Linux (Ldo either of these - even if the SoC supports insertion of the correct metadata into an HDMI 2.0a output? (Android may be a different matter) RE: OSMC announced new Vero4k, opinions? - wesk05 - 2017-02-25 What about this on Linux? (2017-02-21, 19:34)fritsch Wrote: You won't get HDR, no matter what display. We have 8 bit visuals. RE: OSMC announced new Vero4k, opinions? - Peekstra - 2017-02-26 The (supposedly) Amlogic hardware is capable of 10bit decoding |