Microsoft DVR-MS video container support request

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- anywonder - 2006-11-28

correction:

E:\<wherever xbmc is on the xbox hard drive>\system\codecs\mplayer\mplayer.dll

should be:

E:\<wherever xbmc is on the xbox hard drive>\system\players\mplayer\mplayer.dll

I'm going to try this new version of mplayer.dll out myself sometime tonight and report back

- Robo983 - 2006-12-04

Thanks Anywonder. It took me a little longer to get to this than I expected.

I updated my XMBC to 2.0.1 fat dated 11/13 and then updated the mplayer.dll. I did not get any differenent result. Good picture but static for audio initially then it mutes the sound. I uploded a sample recording to

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EU7H5IKQ

I also was going to try an HD recording and relized I would need an HD signal which I do not have so I was not able to try that.

Thanks for the help so far.

- John Donaghy - 2006-12-07

Robo983 Wrote:I uploded a sample recording to

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EU7H5IKQ

Thanks for the help so far.

I got this thanks and it doesnt play for me either - even using mplayer built on Windows from the latest source. mplayer thinks the audio stream is PCM uncompressed which I'm pretty sure is wrong but I dont know why. What software did you use to record this? Also what kind of TV signal are you recording?

Thanks,

John

- John Donaghy - 2006-12-07

black88mx6 Wrote:Will test this out, but the xbox is hardwired to a 100mb switch. During the time when sound was cut out completely video was signifigently improved. It was switched back because we lost sound. Those improvements would be nice to have with sound.

black88mx6 - did you get a chance to test this out yet? If it is still a problem I'm interested in trying to figure out what's wrong. Can you post a sample that demonstrates the problem?

Thanks,

John

- black88mx6 - 2006-12-09

Yes, went ahead and put the entire file on the Xbox HD. Still the same issue. The video breaks up every now and then. I would say about 2-3% with different blocks of color. The video captures are large. Over 2gb for 1 hour of video; and when playing you don't see it all the time. When I playback on the computer I don't see it at all, but I will see it in the same spots for playback on the xbox. Will have to try and cut a sample of this, but it happens on all my recorded videos in one place or another.

As mentioned before; it is ok, just not as good as when they switched to the other video player (but broke the sound).

- black88mx6 - 2006-12-09

John,

Can you give an example of something that will correctly edit a dvr-ms file? I have Womble and a few others, but they don't seem to clip the file for me properly.

- John Donaghy - 2006-12-09

black88mx6 Wrote:John,

Can you give an example of something that will correctly edit a dvr-ms file? I have Womble and a few others, but they don't seem to clip the file for me properly.

I've used this... http://www.inseattle.org/~dan/Dcut.htm successfully before but it may require Media Center - I cant remember.

I've seen some minor glitches a few times but not as many as you describe. It should be fixable though with a good sample. What software and TV signal are you using?

John

- Robo983 - 2006-12-09

John, I use Meedio to record. It was originally I think the myHTPC. Meedio got purchased by Yahoo and is now yahoo go tv. Hope that helps. I use it because of its user configurabilty. It was bought back in April of this year. I may try to load Go TV and upload a sample this weekend to see if it is going to have the same problem. At least Go TV is supported. The guys who created Meedio I think are over their now directing the development and it is in Beta and maybe can get their help if you can identify what the problem is with the files. Meedio is essentially free now the last release didn't require a key.

Thanks again for the help I hope that either the Meedio or Go Tv will work with Mplayer since it is so much more flexible than MCE.

DVR-MS recorded w/Meedio - Robo983 - 2006-12-09

John, I use Meedio to record. It was originally I think the myHTPC. Meedio got purchased by Yahoo and is now yahoo go tv. Hope that helps. I use it because of its user configurabilty. It was bought back in April of this year. I may try to load Go TV and upload a sample this weekend to see if it is going to have the same problem. At least Go TV is supported. The guys who created Meedio I think are over their now directing the development and it is in Beta and maybe can get their help if you can identify what the problem is with the files. Meedio is essentially free now the last release didn't require a key.

Thanks again for the help I hope that either the Meedio or Go Tv will work with Mplayer since it is so much more flexible than MCE.

TV Signal Used - Robo983 - 2006-12-09

John forgot to mention what TV signal I used, I am using a standard extended cable connection with no external box. The coax is connected directly from the cable out let on the wall to my Hauppauge PCI 150 tunner card.

- black88mx6 - 2006-12-09

John Donaghy Wrote:I've used this... http://www.inseattle.org/~dan/Dcut.htm successfully before but it may require Media Center - I cant remember.

I've seen some minor glitches a few times but not as many as you describe. It should be fixable though with a good sample. What software and TV signal are you using?

John

John,

I am using orb, and an ATI video card sourced from cable TV. It may be more along the line of these minor glitches. These glitches do not occur when playback is done from the PC. Also, when the player was swtiched for awhile to the one without sound, picture quality was noticably improved. I suppose that was the basis of my comment. In no way does this prohibit waching dvr-ms files, just trying to bring up the quality some. I will see if I can capture some more samples to get the glitches to show up.

- Robo983 - 2006-12-12

I decided to try Yahoo Go TV since that should be the future of Meedio and got similar results. Great video but no Audio. I uploaded the file to:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QNE1RO0O

I hopefully can get their support to get this working if you can let me know anything in the format that doesn't work or may not be correct.

dvr-ms samples - -wde- - 2006-12-12

John,
I'm really excited about this project you are working on. I love being able to watch recorded SD shows on my xbox, and would really like to be able to watch recorded HD shows too.
Do you still need dvr-ms samples? I can provide NTSC SD samples recorded from analog cable tv as well as NTSC HD samples recorded from over-the-air broadcasts. I use MCE2005 to record using the Hauppauge PVR-150 for ananlog recording and the Avermedia A180 for digital recording.

- John Donaghy - 2006-12-13

-wde- Wrote:Do you still need dvr-ms samples? I can provide NTSC SD samples recorded from analog cable tv as well as NTSC HD samples recorded from over-the-air broadcasts. I use MCE2005 to record using the Hauppauge PVR-150 for ananlog recording and the Avermedia A180 for digital recording.

An NTSC HD sample would be nice. Also, feedback on how well playback works would be useful. Not sure if the xbox has the processing power to decode HD video though.

Thanks in advance,

John

- John Donaghy - 2006-12-13

Robo983 Wrote:I decided to try Yahoo Go TV since that should be the future of Meedio and got similar results. Great video but no Audio. I uploaded the file to:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QNE1RO0O

I hopefully can get their support to get this working if you can let me know anything in the format that doesn't work or may not be correct.

I was able to successfully play this file as well as the previous Meedio recording by writing some test code that replaced the audio stream type found in the file (which suggested the audio format was PCM as I said before) with a value that specified MP3 audio.

My guess is that Go TV is incorrectly specifying the audio stream header but I could be wrong about that - after all Windows Media Player can play the file successfully, but maybe it is just ignoring the header (format tag) because it knows the audio will be mp3.

I'm not sure if the mplayer guys will accept a patched based on this though but I'll post a message to the developer list and see what happens.

I'd be happy to talk to the GO TV devs about it if you can get their attention.

John