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RE: NVIDIA Shield TV Pro (2019 new model) - noggin - 2019-10-30
(2019-10-29, 06:17)wrxtasy Wrote:(2019-10-28, 17:43)ozkhan1 Wrote: Not Kodi related but this does Atmos across the board now (if the service offers it) I don't think the previous models did that.
It should do (eg Netflix) because the 2019 Shield now has an actual Dolby Audio license that looks like it is properly implemented.
Personally I value Apps - auto Frame Rate Matching, like you get on the well sorted, Apple TV 4K - more vs Atmos.
Not Kodi or Shield TV related - but just to temper Apple TV 4K praise it's also worth pointing out that there is an ongoing Apple TV 4K / Netflix audio bug at the moment though. A number of (but not all) Netflix shows are playing in stereo, not 5.1 multichannel, on Apple TV 4Ks - and it's a known bug (but has been rumbling for months). I have had three stereo episodes of Mindhunter series 2 so far (one dropped briefly to 5.1 PCM) - with 3 5.1 episodes... Consistently...
RE: NVIDIA Shield TV Pro (2019 new model) - JWort93 - 2019-10-30
(2019-10-30, 18:18)madkod Wrote:(2019-10-30, 02:14)JWort93 Wrote:(2019-10-30, 01:48)wrxtasy Wrote: AI upscaling is limited to 30fps or lessor video content on the 2019 Shield. It also has problems at the moment with auto colorspace switching SDR <<—->> HDR, which seems to be an ever ongoing problem with Shield Firmware.
CoreELEC Kodi on the N2 can do reliable auto resolution switching, letting a high quality modern 4K TV handle all the non 4K picture upscaling.
The G51 GPU in the N2 has great Anti aliasing (removing Jaggies from pictures/video)
Correct, the N2 is definitely more versatile. With regard to the color space switching issue though, NVIDIA has already acknowledged it, and said a fix is coming in the next update. I’d say I prefer the AI upscaling on the Shield more than the upscaling on my LG C9 too.
Does the AI upscaling work with Kodi?
Yep, assuming the content is 30fps or less, and not interlaced.
RE: NVIDIA Shield TV Pro (2019 new model) - docwra - 2019-10-30
Got mine today, really impressed. Its rapid and I love the new remote.
Went with the non pro model as the Pro wasn't in stock in the UK until next week.
I like the form factor, looks good on the AV rack
RE: NVIDIA Shield TV Pro (2019 new model) - Hitcher - 2019-10-30
(2019-10-30, 19:24)noggin Wrote: I have had three stereo episodes of Mindhunter series 2 so far (one dropped briefly to 5.1 PCM) - with 3 5.1 episodes... Consistently...
I had the same problem with Mindhunter.
RE: NVIDIA Shield TV Pro (2019 new model) - sodiumkpump - 2019-10-31
Is there any difference in the Shield and Shield Pro in terms of Kodi performance or is the Pro mainly for gaming?
RE: NVIDIA Shield TV Pro (2019 new model) - Hitcher - 2019-10-31
The Shield TV is 32bit whereas the Pro is 64bit.
I'm currently testing the Shield TV but Kodi is crashing when playing 4K movies and you try and do something else like open bookmarks for them to be created.
RE: NVIDIA Shield TV Pro (2019 new model) - noggin - 2019-10-31
(2019-10-31, 10:03)Hitcher Wrote: The Shield TV is 32bit whereas the Pro is 64bit.How strange that the two devices with the same SoC are running such different Android builds. You'd kind of think they'd have struck to a single build for the range? Is this a RAM difference do you think? Does 64 bit code use more RAM than 32 bit?
I'm currently testing the Shield TV but Kodi is crashing when playing 4K movies and you try and do something else like open bookmarks for them to be created.
(Presumably the previous versions of the Shield TV and Shield TV Pro were the same flavour - as they differed only in the presence or absence of 500GB of storage? Then the later Shield TV non-Pro was a bit smaller and lost a few facilities compared to the original launch version, whilst the Pro remained the same, based on the launch version?)
RE: NVIDIA Shield TV Pro (2019 new model) - mattmarsden - 2019-10-31
For me the 2017 non-pro shield is much more stable than the pro version. Not sure why.
RE: NVIDIA Shield TV Pro (2019 new model) - ozkhan1 - 2019-10-31
The cylinder is turning out to be more of a dud more I read the reviews. Why would you compromise for more storage, RAM, performance, USB ports for 50 bucks when you are already shelling out 150?
RE: NVIDIA Shield TV Pro (2019 new model) - hdmkv - 2019-10-31
If the YouTube user posted benchmarks are to be believed, Shield Pro seems to improve performance over previous generation by just 5% or so. Basically indistinguishable.
RE: NVIDIA Shield TV Pro (2019 new model) - bekter - 2019-11-01
(2019-10-30, 02:17)ozkhan1 Wrote: Device upscaling/PQ surveyI have the 2015 and 2017 Shield and have to admit I think the new Fire TV Cube is much better. Waiting on the 2019 Shield getting delivered.
N2 - 2
Shield 2019 - 1
Apple TV4k - ?
Fire TV Cube 2019 - ?
I think we should create a separate thread on this and let users post their findings
RE: NVIDIA Shield TV Pro (2019 new model) - zenji2010 - 2019-11-01
(2019-11-01, 04:20)bekter Wrote:(2019-10-30, 02:17)ozkhan1 Wrote: Device upscaling/PQ surveyI have the 2015 and 2017 Shield and have to admit I think the new Fire TV Cube is much better. Waiting on the 2019 Shield getting delivered.
N2 - 2
Shield 2019 - 1
Apple TV4k - ?
Fire TV Cube 2019 - ?
I think we should create a separate thread on this and let users post their findings
@bekter That is very interesting - I'm thinking of getting the new cube, could you advise how well Kodi performs on it please?
RE: NVIDIA Shield TV Pro (2019 new model) - ozkhan1 - 2019-11-01
(2019-11-01, 16:19)zenji2010 Wrote:(2019-11-01, 04:20)bekter Wrote:(2019-10-30, 02:17)ozkhan1 Wrote: Device upscaling/PQ surveyI have the 2015 and 2017 Shield and have to admit I think the new Fire TV Cube is much better. Waiting on the 2019 Shield getting delivered.
N2 - 2
Shield 2019 - 1
Apple TV4k - ?
Fire TV Cube 2019 - ?
I think we should create a separate thread on this and let users post their findings
@bekter That is very interesting - I'm thinking of getting the new cube, could you advise how well Kodi performs on it please?
I am not an expert but I understand for Kodi alone Shield is better because it offers HD audio but for other apps Fire devices are better. I could be wrong because there are some other technicalities I don’t fully grasp when it comes to PQ.
In my personal opinion, fire stick 4k provides better and crisper visuals in Netflix and Amazon than the shield.
RE: NVIDIA Shield TV Pro (2019 new model) - Rippoholic - 2019-11-02
Thinking about it, why are the 2015 and 2017 versions not able to just have the software/firmware updated to do the DV, Atmos, HD-Upscaling and 4K HDR?
Surely it's more software base than hardware base, and I'm sure the upgraded chipset isn't that much different to that which is already there?
Also, wouldn't the up-scaling already built into our tv's be superior anyway?
I'm honestly not sold on this 'upgraded' version.
RE: NVIDIA Shield TV Pro (2019 new model) - wrxtasy - 2019-11-02
(2019-11-01, 04:20)bekter Wrote:(2019-10-30, 02:17)ozkhan1 Wrote: Device upscaling/PQ surveyI have the 2015 and 2017 Shield and have to admit I think the new Fire TV Cube (upscaling) is much better. Waiting on the 2019 Shield getting delivered.
N2 - 2
Shield 2019 - 1
Apple TV4k - ?
Fire TV Cube 2019 - ?
I think we should create a separate thread on this and let users post their findings
This is about the most honest review I have seen regarding the new AI upscaling feature......
Quote:This in reality is way over-hyped as well. My normal screen looks the same as the after "AI enhanced" one in the before and after comparison shots.
My guess is the "fuzzy" before shot you see in the comparisons is a highly zoomed-in one inch square part of a 65" screen, so in reality this will also be a non-event for pretty much everyone who isn't sitting 6 inches from the front of their screen.
https://whrl.pl/RfXpCA