(2021-01-27, 01:29)Angelots Wrote:

(2021-01-27, 00:04)lepoilu Wrote: Thank you for the work done

I was just about to reply to you, but I can see your statement about android tv apps in tv not able to output more than 1080p.

Because I wanted to know where you got that fact from and where I can find it.

Because if I compare the native disney plus 4K, Netflix 4K with the same sample on Kodi and Plex can’t seem to see the difference even when I am pixel peeping.

And no I don’t have upscaling settings on, everything artificial enhancement in the settings are off.

Even if I compare it to the image coming from a hdmi output where the shield is playing native 4K Disney plus or Kodi , can’t see the difference in sharpness..

I do see minor Color and white balance difference but nothing to do with sharpness.

(2021-01-25, 01:39)hoppel118 Wrote:

(2021-01-24, 18:33)hoppel118 Wrote: [quote="blackreign66" pid='3009234' dateline='1611498177']

But @blackreign66 's finding brought me to the idea to check, if this is also the case with Kodi 18.9. So I installed @sk83 custom Kodi 18.9 build from here: https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=349140&pid=2997742#pid2997742

and configured the following advancedsettings.xml

xml:
<advancedsettings>

  <cache>

    <buffermode>1</buffermode>

    <memorysize>157286400</memorysize>

    <readfactor>20</readfactor>

  </cache>

</advancedsettings>

Ahaaaa!!! This build plays Gemini Man without micro stutter.

(2021-01-27, 03:44)Variant Wrote:

(2021-01-25, 01:39)hoppel118 Wrote:

(2021-01-24, 18:33)hoppel118 Wrote:

(2021-01-24, 16:22)blackreign66 Wrote:  

But @blackreign66 's finding brought me to the idea to check, if this is also the case with Kodi 18.9. So I installed @sk83 custom Kodi 18.9 build from here: https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=349140&pid=2997742#pid2997742

and configured the following advancedsettings.xml

xml:
<advancedsettings>

<cache>

<buffermode>1</buffermode>

<memorysize>157286400</memorysize>

<readfactor>20</readfactor>

</cache>

</advancedsettings>

Ahaaaa!!! This build plays Gemini Man without micro stutter.

@hoppel118

Using this version and your advancedsettings, I see no Micro-stutter on 1080p.

Starting to think it could be a Matrix issue but I haven’t tested a non-DV release yet.

(2021-01-26, 22:19)Angelots Wrote:

(2021-01-26, 21:57)araemo Wrote:

(2021-01-26, 20:56)jayf95 Wrote: Thanks to everyone involved whose been working on this. I am out of the loop and new to this (haven't had time to commit to properly research) but have read through this thread and some of the makemkv threads as best as I could. I was hoping someone could answer a few questions for me:

My setup: Sony x900h (v 6.0414--> should have TV led DV) connected via HDMI eARC to my Yamaha RX-V585 AVR, and have an atmos speaker setup (so I need my files in MKV so I can get TrueHD with Atmos audio)
I use makemkv 1.15.4 to convert my 4k HDR rips (BD structure) to MKVs. Mediainfo suggests that the DV layer is preserved. When I get home I'll update this, but I believe it reads something along the lines of 07.06 BL-EL-RPU. 

1) I've previously used PLEX to play my files. DV worked for some of them but not others (despite having the same DV profile as far as I could tell). Granted, it stopped working after I updated my TV and/or PLEX. 
As I understand it, I need to install custom builds of KODI onto my TV to get DV capabilities. Most people here use a shield, but there seems to be at least 1-2 people that have gotten DV working on the x900h with KODI. How do I install these custom builds via usb? Is it packaged as an .apk file? Which build should I use?

2) Do I need to edit anything within the build or files? Ie. do I need to change my workflow to go from BD structure to mkv--> is using makemkv sufficient?

3) Do I playback files over the network, or can it work via direct play off an external HDD?

4) How do I tell which DV profile my MKVs have? How can I tell if its dual layer vs single layer (as I understand makemkv converts it such that the mkvs are single layer?). Are there specific profiles that wont work on the x900h/kodi?

Thanks again for everyones work and thanks in advance for your help.

1/5: The limitations on apps running in the TV's Android TV interface (other than the 'blessed' apps) is why I got a Shield TV.  I had hoped that I wouldn't need to buy another shield TV given the built-in android TV, but as far as I could tell, kodi running on the TV itself couldn't even output 4k.  When I displayed 4k test patterns with kodi, they did not have ANYWHERE near the level of detail/resolution expected.  Think grey blobs instead of 1/2/3 pixel width lines.  Kodi running on Shield TV plugged into HDMI 1, with my speaker system plugged into HDMI 3 with eARC enabled, plays 4k HDR, with TrueHD or Master Audio passthrough (and atmos passthrough on both DD+ and TrueHD, and DTS:X on both DTS-HD and DTS-HD MA).. basically, the only thing I'm lacking is proper dolby vision support.  I haven't tried any builds in this thread yet - I am waiting for matrix to be released in general so I don't have to worry about my DB being version bumped between different players on my network.

3: Kodi doesn't care where the file is stored, as long as it can access it fast enough for the file's bitrate.

4: MediaInfo can often tell you what DV profile a file has (if the container/profile is supported by MediaInfo, at least)

I am a little skeptical about your findings that the Kodi in app Sony Android tv can’t output 4K, with the matrix dv built I am getting everything out of it including vision, only thing is missing is the trueHD, that’s why I opted for a shield tv tube.

Could you link me your test patern files so can compare what details you are talking about?? Thanks for your findings...

(2021-01-27, 15:46)araemo Wrote:

(2021-01-26, 22:19)Angelots Wrote:

(2021-01-26, 21:57)araemo Wrote: 1/5: The limitations on apps running in the TV's Android TV interface (other than the 'blessed' apps) is why I got a Shield TV.  I had hoped that I wouldn't need to buy another shield TV given the built-in android TV, but as far as I could tell, kodi running on the TV itself couldn't even output 4k.  When I displayed 4k test patterns with kodi, they did not have ANYWHERE near the level of detail/resolution expected.  Think grey blobs instead of 1/2/3 pixel width lines.  Kodi running on Shield TV plugged into HDMI 1, with my speaker system plugged into HDMI 3 with eARC enabled, plays 4k HDR, with TrueHD or Master Audio passthrough (and atmos passthrough on both DD+ and TrueHD, and DTS:X on both DTS-HD and DTS-HD MA).. basically, the only thing I'm lacking is proper dolby vision support.  I haven't tried any builds in this thread yet - I am waiting for matrix to be released in general so I don't have to worry about my DB being version bumped between different players on my network.

3: Kodi doesn't care where the file is stored, as long as it can access it fast enough for the file's bitrate.

4: MediaInfo can often tell you what DV profile a file has (if the container/profile is supported by MediaInfo, at least)

I am a little skeptical about your findings that the Kodi in app Sony Android tv can’t output 4K, with the matrix dv built I am getting everything out of it including vision, only thing is missing is the trueHD, that’s why I opted for a shield tv tube.

Could you link me your test patern files so can compare what details you are talking about?? Thanks for your findings...

I got the test pattern here: https://vah.dy.fi/testcard/
But those are png files, which I didn't think kodi could open (I might be mistaken, kodi does have a 'photos' option, doesn't it?  I always remove that option.. and looking at it, I think it will scale them to the UI resolution, which on the sony is locked to 1080p), so I converted it to a very high quality h265 mp4.  All the single-pixel high frequency areas were blurred: The lower left and right, the gamma test patterns, and the halftones - all just uniform blurs instead of stripes or checkerboards.

The other thing that got me to switch to shield is the silly 100mbit nic in the sony TV.  I have UHD blu-ray rips that have bitrates higher than that.  There's basically no way to consistently play them on the TV over wired ethernet, regardless of buffer settings.

I'm not sure what a good file host is to share the mp4 versions of the test card.  They're not very large, but I don't know that I want to host them off a personal google drive.

(2021-01-27, 15:57)Angelots Wrote:

(2021-01-27, 15:46)araemo Wrote:

(2021-01-26, 22:19)Angelots Wrote: I am a little skeptical about your findings that the Kodi in app Sony Android tv can’t output 4K, with the matrix dv built I am getting everything out of it including vision, only thing is missing is the trueHD, that’s why I opted for a shield tv tube.

Could you link me your test patern files so can compare what details you are talking about?? Thanks for your findings...

I got the test pattern here: https://vah.dy.fi/testcard/
But those are png files, which I didn't think kodi could open (I might be mistaken, kodi does have a 'photos' option, doesn't it?  I always remove that option.. and looking at it, I think it will scale them to the UI resolution, which on the sony is locked to 1080p), so I converted it to a very high quality h265 mp4.  All the single-pixel high frequency areas were blurred: The lower left and right, the gamma test patterns, and the halftones - all just uniform blurs instead of stripes or checkerboards.

The other thing that got me to switch to shield is the silly 100mbit nic in the sony TV.  I have UHD blu-ray rips that have bitrates higher than that.  There's basically no way to consistently play them on the TV over wired ethernet, regardless of buffer settings.

I'm not sure what a good file host is to share the mp4 versions of the test card.  They're not very large, but I don't know that I want to host them off a personal google drive.

Yeah, I agree with the Ethernet port being max 100mb. Had the same problem and switched to WiFi ac. All the bottelnecks problems on higher bitrate files were gone...

(2021-01-27, 15:42)Variant Wrote:  

(2021-01-29, 02:30)ragico Wrote: The 32 bit build do not work in Firestick 4k, It  hangs and causes Firestick to return to the home page.

(2021-01-29, 02:30)ragico Wrote: Thanks @fandangos, @quietvoid et all. 
Great job.
In shield many (more than 20) DV mkv play perfectly. Only 4 play audio only and no video (namely Black Panther, Doctor Sleep, Collateral and Three days of Condor that play normally in Plex).
The 32 bit build do not work in Firestick 4k, It  hangs and causes Firestick to return to the home page.

(2021-01-30, 01:22)ragico Wrote: The problem was caused by a lack of internal memory in the firestick.