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- nekrosoft13 - 2008-12-10
xb2iris, what kind of PC are you building?
- XBDD - 2008-12-11
Yeah, I'd like a new release come xmas as well. Wish we could all stand together to make that happen, but so many people are popping in to download the skin, and not even looking at any of the sub-forums.
In a perfect world, people would help each other out and not settle for not joining the circle of life. But who knows, maybe the donation race will hot up sometime soon. I hope people see this skin's potential. And what other skin allows for requests the way Horizonz does. Its such a pitty!
- BlackRose - 2008-12-11
xb2iris Wrote:u madass... again attacking people... there've been a ton of donations... and i'm greatful for that... guess i'll have to wait and see if donations heat up come xmas... i'm so impatient with things the way they stand at this moment... got so many things written down to do and finish... some great things... but if february is the soonest it'll be coming ur way... what can we do...
I totally understand that ur impatient with things, I am as well, thus the rush to get people donating. I know i'm a bit rash at times, but u'd think peopl would listen to a former pornstar from time to time. Guess most of the people here are nerds who've never seen a girl naked before, lol!
- xb2iris - 2008-12-11
rectifier Wrote:I MISS HORIZONZ. *WEEP* *WEEP*
This skin has more potential than any skin alive. Making the skin fully workable, and then making it look special. Thats a work of genius! C'mon guys, bring on the donations! 15,000 downloads. WOW, i'd expect that! Where is everyone NOWIt's making me crazy! Stop hibernating biatches, and Save Horizonz!?!?!?!?!
i do to man... u have no idea! it breaks me everytime I put together screenshots for y'all... sitting in this internet cafe messing about on an unstable version of the skin and not having the time to make it stable and releaseable... it sucks, but the time will come when all that changes... wish all the people who got a request granted would chip in... but thats not how things work out...
nekrosoft13 Wrote:xb2iris, what kind of PC are you building?
not much of a tech guru, so the only option i have is to buy some low-tech pc which costs about R4000 which is around 300 pounds... if i didn't have any debts or court bills, and a kid to look after, i'd definately just buy one now, but with everything taking its toll financially... i'm stuck... to think that more than a year ago, life was nice and stable... guess when life twists in the wrong direction, people become very very lost in the oblivion they call their lives... but yeah, wish i could explain the full story to u guys, but it would be wrong... dam, and seriously wish i knew anything about computer hardware, but unfortunalety i don't... all i know now is that motherboard and cpu died in the last pc... apparently something to do with the power supply over volting... so no idea...
- xb2iris - 2008-12-11
XBDD Wrote:Yeah, I'd like a new release come xmas as well. Wish we could all stand together to make that happen, but so many people are popping in to download the skin, and not even looking at any of the sub-forums.
In a perfect world, people would help each other out and not settle for not joining the circle of life. But who knows, maybe the donation race will hot up sometime soon. I hope people see this skin's potential. And what other skin allows for requests the way Horizonz does. Its such a pitty!
i do to man... but thats up to the masses... and we all know people leech... thats the way things are... only some people actually join the forum...
BlackRose Wrote:I totally understand that ur impatient with things, I am as well, thus the rush to get people donating. I know i'm a bit rash at times, but u'd think peopl would listen to a former pornstar from time to time. Guess most of the people here are nerds who've never seen a girl naked before, lol!
hmmm... most people i know on here are married, so i think ur a tag incorrect on that notion... and as for porn stars having their say... well... guess that depends on the guy...
New Feature Set 4 - xb2iris - 2008-12-11
Anybody remember the Widecase Poll? Well, after some serious thought, this is the result.
Obviously, based on the poll's results and all the topic replies posted in the thread itself, I had a great deal to think about. With Horizonz being a community driven skin, I had to find a middle ground in which everyone, including myself, would benefit. On the one hand, a majority of you didn't mind the Widecase View being left out, and thus, I removed it from Horizonz. On the other hand, many of you still prefer using Wide banner type icons for TV Shows, and thus, with everyone's needs in mind, I needed a way of keeping the majority happy, without losing any sleep over plans I had for a new Universal view (won't be ready for Volume IV unfortunately). So the following idea arrived.
XBMC is limited to ten Viewtypes, and as such, creating Banner modifed Views for Horizonz was out of the question. So, what I did, was create a modified Frame to bare wide icons without spoiling current Viewtypes. Now, the only way I was able to do this, was to create a frame which fitted in with the dimensions allowed by their base Viewtype, and the resulting idea was a funky new Dialogonal Frame for wide icons for all views in the TV Shows section (excluding the Wall View).
So, the result of the above analogy in a "Use Wide Icons" option in the features section, which replaces the List, Poster, Info and Showcase views with wide icon versions with the exact same dynamics as their base views found in Horizonz beforehand. Using the option however, does deactivate the Wall view, as I couldn't think up a way around the new Diagonal frame issue. So here is the resulting views:
Bare in mind, I haven't yet managed to do the Showcase view, so the above pictures of it are nothing but mockups, for now, but I assure you that it's going to be wicked. Furthermore, I've also included the following across the Video Library:
- Watched/Unwatched Icons for all views including the new Diagonal Wide Icon viewtypes (these can be turned off)
- Watched/Unwatched episode counts for all views in the TV Shows section.
- TV Show Info has been updated to accomodate Wide Icons when the "Use Wide Icons" option is toggled.
So, all in all, there will now be 4 Views for Wide Icon fans to enjoy. I hope this is good news for all those who participated in the Widecase Poll! Let me know what you think?
DONATION UPDATE
As you all know, Horizonz has been put on hold for now while I, with your help, find the means to re-establish developement. Progress on that front has slowed down over the last week, so without sounding too depressing, Volume IV may not see this Forum until next year, which I hope isn't the case. Too all of you who have contributed to the cause, I again, reiterate my Thanks and re-assure you that Horizonz will be the skin I set out for it to be! It's your skin, and in such, I hope that these updates are reassuring and show that I'm doing this thing via input from you I've received over the last few months. If you choose to donate, your help will be greatly appreciated and to all the moaners and promotion artists out there, chill. Yes, Horizonz has been downloaded 15000+ times, but that doesn't mean any of them actually use it. So, lets not point fingers okay! It's annoying!
Anyway, here's how we are looking on the scale of donation-orientated progress:
Thanks again for all the support, and I really hope Volume IV will meet you come christmas! I really look forward to hearing from you!
- BlackRose - 2008-12-11
Not a wide icon fan, but lord those pictures look good! Dammit, you really do go out of your way for people, don't you! Pitty they can't do the same! I'm going to check the poll page and remind the people who requested wide icons to check this out and consider donating. It looks amazing!
You could have just dropped Wide Icons altogether!
- xb2iris - 2008-12-11
BlackRose Wrote:Not a wide icon fan, but lord those pictures look good! Dammit, you really do go out of your way for people, don't you! Pitty they can't do the same! I'm going to check the poll page and remind the people who requested wide icons to check this out and consider donating. It looks amazing!
You could have just dropped Wide Icons altogether!
What you doing? don't promote the donation thingy, thats wrong, it's going to give me a bad name... please don't post people's names on here or PM people, that wouldn't be cool at all missy...
nyways, thanks for the other non-crazy comments!
- digitalhigh - 2008-12-11
I dunno about the new view, iris...
To me, it looks forced. Like, you wanted so badly to include the wide icons that you just threw em in there however. Mad props for attempting it...but I just don't think it looks right.
Then again, I jumped on the "poster view all around" bandwagon when I first ran across Aeon, so the issue doesn't really affect me one way or another...
- nekrosoft13 - 2008-12-11
xb2iris, about the wide icons will the other view also remain that people will have choice between wide and normal?
I also see that you added watched/unwatched that is great!!
just one question, does the watch status also show up on the episode level? for example the "standard" default skin XBMC uses a check mark on Episode thumb to indicade if it was watched already.
speaking of donations, I can't donate any money have been payoff from work. But maybe I can donate something else? would you be interested in internal SATA HDD?
- Doraemonn - 2008-12-11
Hey you know what? I'm no fan of wide icons, but I have to admit you've come up with a really interesting solution. Very eye-catching!
Regarding the ongoing donations issue, may I recommend some transparency by switching from a percentage of progress to an actual cash amount? I'm surprised at the recent 1% increase (from 54% to 55%). Did someone donate a dollar? I'm just asking since a $10 donation translating to 1% increase would suggest a target amount of $1000, which is pretty steep... How much are you after, exactly?
Also, and please don't take thius in the wrong way, but when you say things like
"i do to man... u have no idea! it breaks me everytime I put together screenshots for y'all... sitting in this internet cafe messing about on an unstable version of the skin and not having the time to make it stable and releaseable... it sucks, but the time will come when all that changes..."
Makes me think hang on, if "time" is the issue, what are we donating for? Sounds to me like if you have time to go to this internet cafe' and take hi-rez screenies of this so-called "unstable" version, then you have both the time AND the hardware needed to make changes to the of XML. If that PC can run PhotoShop, I'm pretty sure it can run XBMC.
I'm not trying to be a dick, I respect your work and admire your skin... It's just that a lot of what you keep repeating is starting to sound a bit hollow, like you're just waiting around for us to send cash.
Please remember there's people out there like djh who bust their ass in a day job (in Japan I believe, you can only imagine the kind of pressure they put him under) and still have time to crack on with one of the most amazing skinning efforts I have ever seen. Without asking for a dime. I guess it puts things in perspective a little, is all.
Anyway good work, and good luck, and sorry for the rant.
- pletopia - 2008-12-11
honestly .. taking a look at those screenshots i'm not completely convinced they look that great .. like someone said above they just looked forced
i really still feel you should look into consolidating "poster" "showcase" & "info" these 3 view types are SOOO nearly the same viewtype
poster is the most different one because its got the background from list view .. and its centered in the screen
BUT .. Info and Showcase are exactly the same except for Showcase being a smidgen higher up and more reflective below the icons (thats why i use and prefer Info since it gives you more of the fanart in the back)
- Livin - 2008-12-11
don't like it... can barely see the icon
- migueld - 2008-12-12
xb2iris I love your work on horizons, and kudos for trying something new but the widecase view doesn't look too great IMO...
- dynamix - 2008-12-12
I can agree with more users here: it's not my thingy that view. Still can't get used to those rounded frames...
How about something like this for a new widescreen view? Letting the info screen popping out of the middle of the wheel?
Another thing i had in mind:
I think Horizonz needs to get a more uniform look. What i mean is: the time/date bar and RSS bar have rounded corners, the new status bar has sharp corners, your new frames have the rounded corners again...
Thanks for putting in much effort to show us your thoughts on Horizonz, xb2iris!