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- Sharpe - 2010-03-26

kiboy6 Wrote:Do we currently have the option to disable views? I wasn't able to find it but maybe i was being thick!

No we don't - it would be something that I would have to add - if I decided to put it in.


kiboy6 Wrote:Anyhow it's great to hear that there's even more in the pipeline - thanks so much for even taking the time to read my suggestions Smile

No thank you for your suggestions - the whole skin has been built on people like yourself coming up with good suggestions. I'm very grateful for all the ideas.


- kiboy6 - 2010-03-29

Aha! .....Just noticed the addition of movie genre icons in SVN! Absolutely awesome - and in fact with the the poster wrap view it's implemented even better than in the other skin I had seen this feature in!

Will we have the same thing for music genres soon?


Also two other previously mentioned minor quirks / bugs that I'm still experiencing:

1. Video stutters when volume is adjusted
2. Ken Burns for fanart slideshow is much slower and jerkier than, say, the fanart slideshow XBMC screensaver.

Finally, just had a quick question for the home menu sub-menus....don't know if you plan to make them more customizable, but if not it would be awesome if you could point me in the right direction for a touch of modding - right now I'm looking to add "singles" and "recently added albums" as music submenus, as well as deleting the ones I don't use like files and library.

Thanks so much Sharpe Smile


- Sharpe - 2010-03-29

Yep just added support for Movie and Music genre icons - (many thanks and credit to the great work done by MrTourettes and asphinx creating all the cool icons).

Your minor bugs are going to get looked at - right now I'm not seeing the same effects but I'll play around with the code.

As for the submenu selections - I've added recently added (as it fits with what I've already put in place for movies and tv eps). I still do intend to do some sort of skin options screen where you can add / disable from a selection - just got to find the time.

If you fancy doing some custom modding of your own go right ahead. It's fairly straightforward:

Edit the home.xml in the 720p folder.

Lines 3128 - 3341 deal with the submenu content for the regular size filmstrip.

Lines 3448 - 3662 deal with the submenu content for the small size filmstrip.

Remove entries you don't need or replace them with ones you would like.

The control to add "singles" to the submenu replacing item 27 for example would be:

Code:
<item id="27">
<label>1050</label>
<onclick>SetFocus(21)</onclick>
<onclick>ActivateWindow(MusicLibrary,singles)</onclick>
<visible>Container(11).HasFocus(7)</visible>
</item>



- Rand Al Thor - 2010-03-30

Hey guys. Great work as always. Can't say enough good things about this skin Wink

I have noticed that in the latest SVN (28917) the dvd images look distorted. The look extra wide. It might be do to changes in the skinning engine. Anyone else experiencing this?

Rand


- kiboy6 - 2010-03-30

Sharpe Wrote:Yep just added support for Movie and Music genre icons - (many thanks and credit to the great work done by MrTourettes and asphinx creating all the cool icons).

Your minor bugs are going to get looked at - right now I'm not seeing the same effects but I'll play around with the code.

As for the submenu selections - I've added recently added (as it fits with what I've already put in place for movies and tv eps). I still do intend to do some sort of skin options screen where you can add / disable from a selection - just got to find the time.

If you fancy doing some custom modding of your own go right ahead. It's fairly straightforward:

Edit the home.xml in the 720p folder.

Lines 3128 - 3341 deal with the submenu content for the regular size filmstrip.

Lines 3448 - 3662 deal with the submenu content for the small size filmstrip.

Remove entries you don't need or replace them with ones you would like.

Thanks so much Sharpe - so kind of you to help me out with that mod - will definitely apply it when I get home! Of course that will stop the home.xml from SVN updating, so I'll have to keep my eyes peeled for any cool changes that happen there that I'm missing out on!

Thanks also for looking into those two quirks - let me know if you need more details on my setup if you are unable to replicate.

Finally re: the two views I mentioned previously:
1) For the TV show seasons view, actually I think the existing DVD case wrap movie view would look great! (Except without the boxes opening). Or maybe something like that but with space between each entry (like CD case Wrap 2 for music) What do you think?

2) And for the fanarty movie view i was banging on about, I found a screenshot from another skin with a similar screen real-estate ratio to the Transparency! view I mentioned: http://www.iamkizer.net/xbmc/serenity/gallery/screenshot243.jpg (only this one doesn't have a short list of movies before and after...
ie- that would never be confused with Transparency! but ticks the same boxes in terms of what is visible on screen - IMO such a view with a BackRow feel would be simply awesome!

Thanks as ever! - I'm so loving the genre icons views!


- Sharpe - 2010-03-30

Rand Al Thor Wrote:Hey guys. Great work as always. Can't say enough good things about this skin Wink

I have noticed that in the latest SVN (28917) the dvd images look distorted. The look extra wide. It might be do to changes in the skinning engine. Anyone else experiencing this?

Rand

Cheers Rand - I've been staying clear of the latest SVNs and plan on addressing the new features / skin problems when it's a bit more stable. What I suspect is going on is that XBMC has stopped respecting the <defaultresolutionwide>PAL16x9</defaultresolutionwide> control in the skin.xml and is drawing all it's controls from the PAL folder. You could try copying over the entire contents of the PAL16x9 folder into the PAL folder and seeing if that corrects things.


- Sharpe - 2010-03-30

kiboy6 Wrote:Finally re: the two views I mentioned previously:
1) For the TV show seasons view, actually I think the existing DVD case wrap movie view would look great! (Except without the boxes opening). Or maybe something like that but with space between each entry (like CD case Wrap 2 for music) What do you think?

2) And for the fanarty movie view i was banging on about, I found a screenshot from another skin with a similar screen real-estate ratio to the Transparency! view I mentioned: http://www.iamkizer.net/xbmc/serenity/gallery/screenshot243.jpg (only this one doesn't have a short list of movies before and after...
ie- that would never be confused with Transparency! but ticks the same boxes in terms of what is visible on screen - IMO such a view with a BackRow feel would be simply awesome!

Thanks as ever! - I'm so loving the genre icons views!

No worries - All stored away on my things to do list.


- Rand Al Thor - 2010-03-30

Sharpe Wrote:Cheers Rand - I've been staying clear of the latest SVNs and plan on addressing the new features / skin problems when it's a bit more stable. What I suspect is going on is that XBMC has stopped respecting the <defaultresolutionwide>PAL16x9</defaultresolutionwide> control in the skin.xml and is drawing all it's controls from the PAL folder. You could try copying over the entire contents of the PAL16x9 folder into the PAL folder and seeing if that corrects things.

Beautiful, thanks Sharpe Wink I'll give it a whirl when I get home from work.


- kiboy6 - 2010-04-07

kiboy6 Wrote:1. Video stutters when volume is adjusted
2. Ken Burns for fanart slideshow is much slower and jerkier than, say, the fanart slideshow XBMC screensaver.

Is no-one else experiencing this? I'm wondering if the volume adjustment stutter could be caused by a SVN upgrade gone wrong at my end or something. What's the location of the image it's supposed to call?


Quote:=Sharpe
No worries - All stored away on my things to do list.

Thanks so much as always!


One more question - given that many backgrounds / icons aren't included in the SVN download, will we find out about any changes to those (in the Alt Download version) in this thread?


- Sharpe - 2010-04-07

Sorry /been busy over the last couple of weeks and not really been able to have a proper look into this -The image it calls up is in the media folder - icon-unmute.png or icon-mute.png. Try it without that image.

Just edit the DialogVolumeBar.xml file in the PAL folder and remove the image control.

The Studio and media flags along with the alt backdrop wallpapers aren't likely to change - but I've left them out of the xpr so that people can customise them easily. I guess the best I can do is let people know in this thread if I've changed anything.


- kiboy6 - 2010-04-10

Sharpe Wrote:Sorry /been busy over the last couple of weeks and not really been able to have a proper look into this -The image it calls up is in the media folder - icon-unmute.png or icon-mute.png. Try it without that image.

Just edit the DialogVolumeBar.xml file in the PAL folder and remove the image control.

Hi Sharpe - removing the chunk of code below from DialogVolumeBar.xml did fix that stutter - only now I have no background box to my volume bar! Any ideas?

Code:
<control type="image" id="0">
<description>Popup Volume Dialog Background</description>
<posx>0</posx>
<posy>0</posy>
<width>160</width>
<height>50</height>
<texture diffuse="mask wide.png">background2.png</texture>
<colordiffuse>99FFFFFF</colordiffuse>
</control>

Plus - don't know if you changed anything, but the music fanart slideshow Ken Burns seems a tiny bit smoother but still very rough compared to the fanart slideshow XBMC screensaver. Do the two lbehave the same on your setup?

One other tiny feature request - would be cool to have a button for shuffle on/off on the music "now playing" screen.

Thanks Big Grin


- Sharpe - 2010-04-10

Try the new background box I've just added let me know if it's still okay. I've also added the random play control to the now playing screen.

Still working on the slideshow


- kiboy6 - 2010-04-11

Wow - volume stutter problem gone with the new background - thanks so much Sharpe, you are amazing. The random button is a lovely addition to the Now Playing screen too.

Didn't mean to bang on about the music fanart slideshow -just didn't know if it was only an issue for me Smile Awesome that you're looking into it.



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Quick question - don't know if this is a skin thing or an XBMC thing:

Recently added music displays "singles" multiple times as an album if sinlges were recently added to the library.

Ie. I just added a few albums and a bunch of singles. Each single has its own artwork ID3 embedded.
In recently added music I see all the new albums interspersed with the generic "album" cover for singles repeated for every single added. This obviously doesn't look that cool - it would be better to have either the cover for each single display separately, or to have all singles appear under the one generic "singles" cover.

Hope I explained that OK - like I said I've no idea if this just a XBMC issue and not a skin issue at all Smile

Thanks as always Sharpe!

edit: here's a pic in list view to show what i mean : Image


- Sharpe - 2010-04-12

kiboy6 Wrote:....Quick question - don't know if this is a skin thing or an XBMC thing:

Recently added music displays "singles" multiple times as an album if sinlges were recently added to the library.

Ie. I just added a few albums and a bunch of singles. Each single has its own artwork ID3 embedded.
In recently added music I see all the new albums interspersed with the generic "album" cover for singles repeated for every single added. This obviously doesn't look that cool - it would be better to have either the cover for each single display separately, or to have all singles appear under the one generic "singles" cover.

Hope I explained that OK - like I said I've no idea if this just a XBMC issue and not a skin issue at all Smile......

That's an interesting one - I can't see any way to display any image other than album cover art. Have you found any views - on any skins, for that matter, that manage to display an embeded ID3 single cover artwork? - If yopu know of any let me know and I'll see what they're doing.


- kiboy6 - 2010-04-12

Sharpe Wrote:That's an interesting one - I can't see any way to display any image other than album cover art. Have you found any views - on any skins, for that matter, that manage to display an embeded ID3 single cover artwork? - If yopu know of any let me know and I'll see what they're doing.

I did see an embedded ID3 single cover displayed in Waffa's Mini Meedia mod. (In the small recently added music section on the home menu.)

Even if such a thing didn't work out though, it would also be fine if all the recently added singles were under just one single entry in the "recently added music" section -(ie just one single entry for "singles" in the example above, with all those singles displayed individually when that entry is selected - as if it were an album). But like I said -that functionality may only be possible with changes to XBMC for all I know Smile

Thanks!


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