Newbie - New aTV2 Need advice on Jailbreak and installs

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- Muttleyuk - 2011-04-08

That's it, all done. Easy when you know how Smile

- Duncan Miller - 2011-05-20

Hi there - was hoping somebody might be able to help me out with a tiny umbrella issue.

Ever since I got my ATV I have been unable to save my SHSH blobs with tiny umbrealla.

My ATV is recognised (only when it is plugged in power and usb)

I click save and then it says that every single firmware I am too late for - even the most current ones.

anyway I went ahead and jail broke my 4.2.1. (4.1.1.) ATV2 and installed XBMC etc.. and all was fine but a few days ago it broke (got stuck on apple logo).

So I have had to restore it - funny thing is Apple let me restore it with 4.2.1 so I guess that means that they must still be signing it - however tinyumbrella still refuses to save my SHSH blobs for any firmware at all

So I must be doing something wrong right....?

Can anyone shed any light on this? I am on windows 7 64bit - do I have to do something special (like DFU) or not use power or anything??

- Muttleyuk - 2011-05-20

Duncan Miller Wrote:Hi there - was hoping somebody might be able to help me out with a tiny umbrella issue.

Ever since I got my ATV I have been unable to save my SHSH blobs with tiny umbrealla.

My ATV is recognised (only when it is plugged in power and usb)

I click save and then it says that every single firmware I am too late for - even the most current ones.

anyway I went ahead and jail broke my 4.2.1. (4.1.1.) ATV2 and installed XBMC etc.. and all was fine but a few days ago it broke (got stuck on apple logo).

So I have had to restore it - funny thing is Apple let me restore it with 4.2.1 so I guess that means that they must still be signing it - however tinyumbrella still refuses to save my SHSH blobs for any firmware at all

So I must be doing something wrong right....?

Can anyone shed any light on this? I am on windows 7 64bit - do I have to do something special (like DFU) or not use power or anything??

Its been a while so others are welcome to
Correct me but when I did mine, yes I had to
Be In dfu mode, but TU wouldn't auto recognise my atv (Like it does with my iPhone / iPad) you have to manually add it using dome USB tool to discover te ECID first. Can somebody help this guy out, I've had 6 pints already tonight and this is the furthest I can remember under my current intoxication level! Wink

- jd2157 - 2011-05-21

Duncan Miller Wrote:My ATV is recognised (only when it is plugged in power and usb)

I click save and then it says that every single firmware I am too late for - even the most current ones.

anyway I went ahead and jail broke my 4.2.1. (4.1.1.) ATV2 and installed XBMC etc.. and all was fine but a few days ago it broke (got stuck on apple logo).

So I have had to restore it - funny thing is Apple let me restore it with 4.2.1 so I guess that means that they must still be signing it - however tinyumbrella still refuses to save my SHSH blobs for any firmware at all

So I must be doing something wrong right....?

Can anyone shed any light on this? I am on windows 7 64bit - do I have to do something special (like DFU) or not use power or anything??

Try this tutorial: http://appletvblogr.com/2010/12/how-to-save-shsh-files-for-the-apple-tv-2g-manually-using-tinyumbrella/

- Duncan Miller - 2011-05-21

jd2157 Wrote:Try this tutorial: http://appletvblogr.com/2010/12/how-to-save-shsh-files-for-the-apple-tv-2g-manually-using-tinyumbrella/

Thanks for this - However, have already seen that though

My problem is not that tinyumbreall will not recognise my device - it does recognise it (comes up with the device name, firmware version 4.2.1. ECID and serial etc..

That tutorial seems to assume you are having trouble with getting Tu to see the ATV2

Also its a MAC guide and doesn't say how to manually find the ECID for a windows machine

This is the log I get is I have option "request SHSH from Cydia" selected

05/21/2011 07:15:50.190 Started saving SHSHs for [Bedroom Apple TV] 05/21/2011 07:15:54.340 This device isn't eligible for the requested build. 05/21/2011 07:15:54.356 CYDIA DOES NOT HAVE YOUR SHSH FOR AppleTV 4.1 (8M89) THERE IS NO WAY FOR YOU TO GET THEM. SORRY. YOU ARE JUST TOO LATE. 05/21/2011 07:15:54.387 This device isn't eligible for the requested build. 05/21/2011 07:15:54.387 CYDIA DOES NOT HAVE YOUR SHSH FOR AppleTV 4.2.1 (8C154) THERE IS NO WAY FOR YOU TO GET THEM. SORRY. YOU ARE JUST TOO LATE. 05/21/2011 07:15:56.493 This device isn't eligible for the requested build. 05/21/2011 07:15:56.508 CYDIA DOES NOT HAVE YOUR SHSH FOR AppleTV 4.2 (8C150) THERE IS NO WAY FOR YOU TO GET THEM. SORRY. YOU ARE JUST TOO LATE. 05/21/2011 07:15:56.555 This device isn't eligible for the requested build. 05/21/2011 07:15:56.555 CYDIA DOES NOT HAVE YOUR SHSH FOR AppleTV 4.3 (8F191m) THERE IS NO WAY FOR YOU TO GET THEM. SORRY. YOU ARE JUST TOO LATE. 05/21/2011 07:16:03.887 This device isn't eligible for the requested build. 05/21/2011 07:16:03.887 CYDIA DOES NOT HAVE YOUR SHSH FOR AppleTV 4.3.1 (8F202) THERE IS NO WAY FOR YOU TO GET THEM. SORRY. YOU ARE JUST TOO LATE. 05/21/2011 07:16:03.981 This device isn't eligible for the requested build. 05/21/2011 07:16:03.981 CYDIA DOES NOT HAVE YOUR SHSH FOR AppleTV 4.3b2 (8F5153d) THERE IS NO WAY FOR YOU TO GET THEM. SORRY. YOU ARE JUST TOO LATE. 05/21/2011 07:16:06.196 This device isn't eligible for the requested build. 05/21/2011 07:16:06.196 CYDIA DOES NOT HAVE YOUR SHSH FOR AppleTV 4.3b1 (8F5148c) THERE IS NO WAY FOR YOU TO GET THEM. SORRY. YOU ARE JUST TOO LATE. 05/21/2011 07:16:06.258 This device isn't eligible for the requested build. 05/21/2011 07:16:06.274 CYDIA DOES NOT HAVE YOUR SHSH FOR AppleTV 4.3b3 (8F5166b) THERE IS NO WAY FOR YOU TO GET THEM. SORRY. YOU ARE JUST TOO LATE. 05/21/2011 07:16:06.274 Finished saving SHSHs for [Bedroom Apple TV] 05/21/2011 07:16:06.274 Caching shsh files... 05/21/2011 07:16:06.290 Found [0] shsh files to cache... 05/21/2011 07:16:06.290 Cached [0] shsh files

and this is what I get if I try to untick the box (hadn't tried that last time)

5/21/2011 07:24:39.340 Started saving SHSHs for [Bedroom Apple TV] 05/21/2011 07:24:41.353 This device isn't eligible for the requested build. 05/21/2011 07:24:41.353 APPLE is NOT signing AppleTV 4.3.1 (8F202) SHSH requests anymore. All you can do now is select CYDIA and hope that CYDIA has your SHSH saved. If not, there is nothing you can do. 05/21/2011 07:24:41.368 Finished saving SHSHs for [Bedroom Apple TV] 05/21/2011 07:24:41.400 Caching shsh files... 05/21/2011 07:24:41.400 Found [0] shsh files to cache... 05/21/2011 07:24:41.400 Cached [0] shsh files

Now the confusion things are:

that not one SHSH for any firmware in the first example will save

and in the second example its attempting to get 4.3.1 instead of 4.2.1

keeping in mind that apple (itunes) itself let me restore with 4.2.1. just moments before I tried this yesterday

I have one silly question - I dont have to jailbreak before I try this do I?

- jd2157 - 2011-06-07

Duncan Miller Wrote:Thanks for this - However, have already seen that though

My problem is not that tinyumbreall will not recognise my device - it does recognise it (comes up with the device name, firmware version 4.2.1. ECID and serial etc..

That tutorial seems to assume you are having trouble with getting Tu to see the ATV2

Also its a MAC guide and doesn't say how to manually find the ECID for a windows machine

and this is what I get if I try to untick the box (hadn't tried that last time)
5/21/2011 07:24:39.340 Started saving SHSHs for [Bedroom Apple TV] 05/21/2011 07:24:41.353 This device isn't eligible for the requested build. 05/21/2011 07:24:41.353 APPLE is NOT signing AppleTV 4.3.1 (8F202) SHSH requests anymore. All you can do now is select CYDIA and hope that CYDIA has your SHSH saved. If not, there is nothing you can do. 05/21/2011 07:24:41.368 Finished saving SHSHs for [Bedroom Apple TV] 05/21/2011 07:24:41.400 Caching shsh files... 05/21/2011 07:24:41.400 Found [0] shsh files to cache... 05/21/2011 07:24:41.400 Cached [0] shsh files

Now the confusing things are:
- that not one SHSH for any firmware in the first example will save
and in the second example its attempting to get 4.3.1 instead of 4.2.1

- keeping in mind that apple (itunes) itself let me restore with 4.2.1. just moments before I tried this yesterday

I have one silly question - I dont have to jailbreak before I try this do I?

Here's a more/less random list of things to try/consider:
- should only need microUSB connected, using power too has been unpredictable (for me at least), I'd try to manually save the ECID /w USB only

- really odd that you can't even save the current SHSH blobs since there should be at least one firmware that Apple's signing, make sure you have the latest TU and try again /wo having power connected

- TU has been confused re: Apple TV software vs. iOS versions, there's a lot of that going around. For instance, I have an SHSH blob labelled AppleTV 4.3.3 (8F305) but that build is Apple TV 4.2.2 /w iOS 4.3 (according to Apple: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4448 and under Settings > General > About).

- iFaith will supposedly let you dump SHSH blobs from the firmware that's on the device, even if Apple isn't signing them anymore, haven't tried it though

- you shouldn't need to jailbreak before doing this

- I'll try saving my SHSH blobs in bootcamp /w Win7 64bit to see what happens, stay tuned for an update unless I fall asleep and forget, EDIT: no luck... Tiny Umbrella seeing my atv2 as a recovery device. More investigation needed.

- jd2157 - 2011-06-12

Anyone have any luck getting their atv2 out of recovery mode? Tiny Umbrella's seeing mine as a recovery device but it's not technically stuck in recovery mode, i.e. it boots up fine and runs XBMC, no issues other than I can't save new SHSH blobs.

UPDATE: hehe... never mind... apparently you need to be pretty particular with TU, i.e. power the atv2 on (no other cables connected), start TU, then connect via micro USB.