[kraqh3d]

i just built my first version with the new default skin and all i can say is bring back pm1. i never thought i'd say this because i never really liked pm1. i always thought it was a little too dark for my tastes, but atleast it was better than black. choice of color aside, is there chance of these other items being addressed?

1) what happened to the full screen visualization? i have a plasma screen. there's no way i'll leave this new viz window on screen for hours like i used to do.

2) what are those horrible distracting horizontal lines that seem to be overlayed on top of the visualzation window, and non-full screen video while at the home screen?

3) while at the home screen, why does is the viz layered on top of the textures that are associated to the buttons? this is even more distracting than those horizontal lines. there needs to be a way to disable the "in-gui" viz.

[calle81]

in order to view the full screen viz press the white button and the now playing window will fade away.

btw i love the new skin choke :thumbsup:

[wabidwoveren]

alright button scroller works, yippe. ill post screenshots shortly, however here is the code and two backgrounds to choose from.

<window>
<id>0</id>
<defaultcontrol>300</defaultcontrol>
<allowoverlay>no</allowoverlay>
<controls>
<control>
<type>image</type>
<id>102</id>
<posx>100</posx>
<posy>105</posy>
<width>640</width>
<height>362</height>
<texture>16x9home-myprograms.png</texture>
</control>
<control>
<type>image</type>
<id>106</id>
<posx>100</posx>
<posy>105</posy>
<width>640</width>
<height>362</height>
<texture>16x9home-myfiles.png</texture>
</control>
<control>
<type>image</type>
<id>103</id>
<posx>100</posx>
<posy>105</posy>
<width>640</width>
<height>362</height>
<texture>16x9home-mymusic.png</texture>
</control>
<control>
<type>image</type>
<id>104</id>
<posx>100</posx>
<posy>105</posy>
<width>640</width>
<height>362</height>
<texture>16x9home-mypictures.png</texture>
</control>
<control>
<type>image</type>
<id>105</id>
<posx>100</posx>
<posy>105</posy>
<width>640</width>
<height>362</height>
<texture>16x9home-myvideos.png</texture>
</control>
<control>
<type>image</type>
<id>107</id>
<posx>100</posx>
<posy>105</posy>
<width>640</width>
<height>362</height>
<texture>16x9home-myweather.png</texture>
</control>
<control>
<type>image</type>
<id>109</id>
<posx>100</posx>
<posy>105</posy>
<width>640</width>
<height>362</height>
<texture>16x9home-settings.png</texture>
</control>
<control>
<type>visualisation</type>
<id>1</id>
<posx>100</posx>
<posy>105</posy>
<width>640</width>
<height>372</height>
</control>
<control>
<description>video preview window</description>
<type>videowindow</type>
<id>1</id>
<posx>180</posx>
<posy>60</posy>
<width>540</width>
<height>455</height>
</control>
<control>
<description>background image</description>
<type>image</type>
<id>1</id>
<posx>0</posx>
<posy>0</posy>
<width>720</width>
<height>576</height>
<texture>16x9home-extra.png</texture>
</control>
<controlgroup>
<control>
<description>home buttons</description>
<type>buttonscroller</type>
<id>300</id>
<posx>76</posx>
<posy>194</posy>
<width>256</width>
<height>34</height>
<buttongap>6</buttongap>
<numbuttons>7</numbuttons>
<orientation>vertical</orientation>
<align>left</align>
<aligny>center</aligny>
<movement>10</movement>
<defaultbutton>1</defaultbutton>
<alpha>100</alpha>
<wraparound>no</wraparound>
<smoothscrolling>no</smoothscrolling>
<font>special13</font>
<onleft>98</onleft>
<onright>99</onright>
<onup>300</onup>
<ondown>300</ondown>
<textoffsetx>45</textoffsetx>
<texturefocus>home-focus-wide.png</texturefocus>
<texturenofocus>-</texturenofocus>
<textcolor>ffffffff</textcolor>
</control>
</controlgroup>
<control>
<description>gradient</description>
<type>image</type>
<id>1</id>
<visible>player.hasaudio</visible>
<posx>315</posx>
<posy>338</posy>
<width>400</width>
<height>99</height>
<texture>gradient.png</texture>
</control>
<control>
<description>image</description>
<type>infoimage</type>
<id>1</id>
<posx>540</posx>
<posy>338</posy>
<width>100</width>
<height>99</height>
<info>musicplayer.cover</info>
</control>
<control>
<description>artist label</description>
<type>infolabel</type>
<id>1</id>
<width>100</width>
<posx>525</posx>
<posy>340</posy>
<info>musicplayer.artist</info>
<align>right</align>
<font>special12</font>
</control>
<control>
<description>title label</description>
<type>infolabel</type>
<id>1</id>
<width>100</width>
<posx>525</posx>
<posy>365</posy>
<info>musicplayer.title</info>
<align>right</align>
<font>special13</font>
</control>
<control>
<description>album label</description>
<type>infolabel</type>
<id>1</id>
<width>100</width>
<posx>525</posx>
<posy>394</posy>
<info>musicplayer.album</info>
<align>right</align>
<font>font10</font>
</control>
<control>
<description>time label</description>
<type>infolabel</type>
<id>1</id>
<width>100</width>
<posx>525</posx>
<posy>415</posy>
<info>musicplayer.time</info>
<align>right</align>
<font>font10</font>
</control>
<control>
<description>date label</description>
<type>label</type>
<id>200</id>
<posx>575</posx>
<posy>70</posy>
<label>date</label>
<align>right</align>
<font>special12</font>
</control>
<control>
<description>suffix label</description>
<type>label</type>
<id>1</id>
<posx>585</posx>
<posy>68</posy>
<label>|</label>
<align>left</align>
<font>special12</font>
<textcolor>60ffffff</textcolor>
</control>
<control>
<description>time label</description>
<type>label</type>
<id>201</id>
<posx>595</posx>
<posy>70</posy>
<label>time</label>
<align>left</align>
<font>special12</font>
<textcolor>60ffffff</textcolor>
</control>
<control>
<description>rss feed</description>
<type>rss</type>
<id>1</id>
<posx>0</posx>
<posy>470</posy>
<width>720</width>
<font>font13</font>
<feed>http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/xbox-scene.xml</feed>
<titlecolor>ffffd200</titlecolor>
<headlinecolor>ddced8da</headlinecolor>
<textcolor>ddced8da</textcolor>
</control>
<control>
<description>xlink kai conditional button</description>
<type>conditionalbutton</type>
<id>99</id>
<posx>544</posx>
<posy>503</posy>
<width>35</width>
<height>35</height>
<label>-</label>
<texturefocus>home-kai.gif</texturefocus>
<texturenofocus>home-kai.png</texturenofocus>
<hyperlink>2700</hyperlink>
<onleft>300</onleft>
<onright>100</onright>
<onup>300</onup>
<ondown>300</ondown>
</control>
<control>
<description>submenu button</description>
<type>button</type>
<id>100</id>
<posx>577</posx>
<posy>503</posy>
<width>35</width>
<height>35</height>
<hyperlink>105</hyperlink>
<texturefocus>home-sub.gif</texturefocus>
<texturenofocus>home-sub.png</texturenofocus>
<label>-</label>
<onleft>99</onleft>
<onright>98</onright>
<onup>300</onup>
<ondown>300</ondown>
</control>
<control>
<description>submenu button</description>
<type>button</type>
<id>98</id>
<posx>610</posx>
<posy>503</posy>
<width>35</width>
<height>35</height>
<hyperlink>111</hyperlink>
<texturefocus>home-power.gif</texturefocus>
<texturenofocus>home-power.png</texturenofocus>
<label>-</label>
<onleft>100</onleft>
<onright>300</onright>
<onup>300</onup>
<ondown>300</ondown>
</control>
</controls>
</window>

first choose the background you prefer
http://img52.exs.cx/img52/8955/16x9homeextra10zl.png
or
http://img52.exs.cx/img52/5503/16x9homeextra29pi.png
rename it 16x9home-extra.png

then download - ttp://img52.exs.cx/img52/6130/homefocuswide4pn.png, and name it home-focus-wide.png
place both pictures in your media folder.

finally change your home.xml to match the code above. (if i have time ill make the 16x9)

[Nickman]

chokemaniac if you read this, don't listen to these :nuts:
pm3 i great. it's more then great it's perfect. looks awsome. and it's girlfrind approved.

ignore the voltures. the just want to feed oppon your work.
imho.

[BritneysPAIRS]

yes it is good, you have no idea what im doing its not just putting a button here or there oh weather at bottom thats easier its completely changed interface really. please dont make me do it publically again. its not to critise it to help the project go further. its way easier to use and you will see soon with or without choke, but there are some limitations now (cant be button scroller no chance sorry it wont work) also it will limit advanced features sacrificed for useablity. they may be able to be added to context menu ill look into that later dont know if it poss. for now i dont want to augue anything i want to post an idea that i think works well nothing is perfect (its never been done before it is orig and simple)

[wabidwoveren]

[corrected, you were talking about your skin, gotcha]

button scroller in action - http://img52.exs.cx/gal.php?g=screenshot0033dl.jpg





yes you can now rearrange the buttons to your hearts content!

[BritneysPAIRS]

yes will work perfect with pm3 but my idea it wont sorry there is a few major differences

[kraqh3d]

calle81,

thanks for the tip about putting the viz in to full screen more. its info on the remote if anyone is reading this. thats much better now.

but i still think those horrid horizontal lines built into the background have to go. they distract from the viz when the info is onscreen, and video looks like crap when its overlayed on the home.

[pike]

well, are you supposed to watch movies or view viz'es on home screen then?

i don't think thats the idea anyway, it's just to give a little life to the otherwise static homescreen (i think)

[kraqh3d]

i agree with your the arguments. you shouldnt be watching video or the viz from home screen, so then why even bother overlaying it on the home screen??

i'll probably get used to the video thing on the home screen, but way the viz overlays itself on top of the home screen sucks. so, i just added a setting to disable the viz from being overlayed on the gui except when in the viz window

[tslayer]

you know what? i didn't even realize about the video overlay on the home screen. i think it's pretty cool (granted, only a gimmick) even though i wouldn't want to watch a movie like that. but, it exhibits the capabilities of the skinning system and would probably get ideas flowing for skinners.

just my 2cents.

ts

[Livin]

wabidwoveren,
this is great and i really appreciate you doing this!

i have favor to ask...

can you make a backgound that does not have the bottom button? since it is so small it is difficult to have text "fit" the size properly.

seriously, thanks again! i've been hoping for something like this.

[BritneysPAIRS]

kraqh3d please add a button to disable visual overlay in settings pretty please i like it but i know some wont

that would be great :bowdown:

[kraqh3d]

bp,

i added the option to settings and its running at my home, but i havent decided if i should commit the change. it may have been a rash action on my part. i dont want this to discourage any skinner. i really added it due to my own personal opinion of the pm3 home screen and in particular how the viz is layered on top of existing.

i see some great potential for the viz control inside windows. it's just having them overlayed on top of another texture looks messy.

it would be cool if we could run two at the same time... imagine a small vis window next to the cover icon displaying the spectrum analyser on top of the full screen viz!

[jmarshall]

kraqh3d: i guess you are using one of the transparent vis'z? it does look kinda funny with the textures behind it, i agree.

if so, they just have to be updated to do a clear() at the appropriate time. some do this, but some don't (eg fountain). if that's done, then you don't see the texture behind it obviously.

ofcourse, you can always just remove the visualisation control from the home.xml file (just comment it out) if you don't want it altogether.

seeing as the visualisation control can be placed literally anywhere, i don't think an option to turn it off on the homescreen is really appropriate, given that pm3 is the only one currently using it. (i believe the orbs will be shortly.)

obviously these changes aren't to everyones liking. the pm1 and pm2 skins still exist, it's just that chokemaniac won't be taken the time to update them himself. hopefully the source files for these will become available shortly for those that wish to maintain them for the community. understandably, chokemaniac doesn't have the time.

cheers,
jonathan