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:-)
They probably got a lot of email from non happy customers :-)
Let's hope this helps !
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You can use it as a paperweight like gimli suggested a while back :-)
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(2012-08-21, 14:18)Kweker Wrote: I think this means Allwinner gave an explanation/apology ? Nice
Also nice of gimli to accept it.
Thanks for letting us know J1nx.
http://www.j1nx.nl/xbmc-allwinner-a10-ap...-accepted/
Please read it!
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2012-08-21, 19:06
(This post was last modified: 2012-08-21, 19:06 by j1nx.)
BTW, now you know why the XBMC dev's keep this kind of stuff a secret before something workable is present. The android port went through 8 of these cycles.
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I think it's important to think why you and Gimli started the project in the beginning and if that reason is still valid. Was it to...
- Gain respect? -> Continue.
- Thirst for knowledge? -> Continue.
- Us (The community)? -> Continue.
- Expand the world of XBMC to more devices? -> Continue
- Profit? -> Stop.
- Help Allwinner conquer the world? -> Stop.
- ...
I can only speak for myself, but I would be a very happy camper if you and Gimli decide to continue work on this project when Allwinner provides the necessary files.
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hoping you can continue your project on A10 and Android and can see through the difficulties. I have several A10-based devices. May as well try and use them now I have them.
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It would be such a waste of a platform with such potential if it doesn't get fully supported under Linux. Hopefully it'll happen one day. Obviously the sooner the better for everyone.
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Fully supported? what that means? 3D programs work under linux, as long they run from framebuffer, no even the R-PI has X11 hardware acceleration, Kernel and U-boot are open-source, the VPU is the problem, is not open source as everyone else, on android work well, but is not OpenMAX, and on linux is crap, and i sure it is because nobody sell those things with linux.
With OpenMAX is their decision, if they does not want to use it, there is not much you can do about it, so you either buy something that support OpenMAX, or you program the thing to use wharever cedar is using today on android. With the launch of Android 4.1 cedar is not longer working on it, so allwinner has to do something about it, so i expect some news on this front.
On the Linux thing, we probably the first to complain about it, to give you an example, i asked for support to a LOT of devs, last year about MIPS support to their android app, most of them respended (not right now, maybe later), 10 months later in cheking out and about 90% of the devs launched MIPS versions of the apps, even the MXPlayer. OK is not the same mips support in android apps is easy on most cases, its google fault that does not include mips support in their ndk and you have to use an special one.
That does not excuse lying, but i think we should give them some time, as probably Android is their top priority and they have enoght problems with 4.1 already.
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I can assure you that linux is not crap on ARM hardware. We've already seen significant performance improvements with linux vs Android on the same hardware (Pivos XIOS). They include Android with their hardware because (for the time being) it's the least amount of work they have to do to include something that will have a GUI and open apps (plus a wide selection of apps thanks to Google Play/Android Market).
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2012-08-22, 04:17
(This post was last modified: 2012-08-22, 04:48 by Shivansps.)
Im not saying its crap, im saying that some companys are not interested in Linux, why they should? Linux do not sell, Android does, Mali-400 has been out for ages, still X11 does not work well on it, and im not seeing ARM willing to fix it. Same happens with Cedar VPU.
I bet Windows RT will get more support.
The best thing has happen to us, the users was the news of XBMC on Android, if i need to wait until the companys are willing to do a proper Linux support to their cpus im gona die of old age.
And i can still chroot Linux if i need some apps from it.