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Linux AudioEngine testers - Linux only
(2012-07-09, 01:35)zimdba Wrote:
(2012-07-08, 23:29)furii Wrote:
(2012-07-08, 22:21)zimdba Wrote: Uh, since when? It works in Eden just fine. Are you speaking about AE only?

not sure how that could be since eden didn't have support for any HD audio. from all i've read ION2 supports dts-hd and truehd, but not ION1.

One of my XBMC's is running Eden 11.0 on an ION 1. Unfortunately the amp it's connected to doesn't support HD audio. However, I just played a movie with DTS/MA as the only audio program. The amp showed "DTS Surround" and played through all 5.1 speakers perfectly. So *something* was doing the conversion from DTS/MA to DTS. Thus the confusion. My XBMC connected to an amp that does support HD audio still isn't working right - so I'm trying to figure that one out.

dts-hd ma has a dts core track as well so that's what was playing. being able to bitstream dts-hd ma (or truehd), which @david1977 was trying, is something else entirely. afaik ion1 isn't capable of more than dts/ac3 and 2 channel lpcm.
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Hi there....

First of all...thanks for helping Wink

I´ve got the Zoac ION F-Series motherboard and I use the On-Board-HDMI

Looking at the specs of this board (it´s in german)....

Zotac ION F-Series

there are the points:

Audio:

- Onboard 5.1-Channel High-Definition Audio
- 7.1-Channel LPCM Digital Audio (HDMI)
- Optical & Coaxial S/PDIF Audio Ausgang

so I thought bitstreaming is possible.

Are you sure, that bitstreaming isn´t possible even the board ist 7.1 LPCM capable?

@zimba:

What furii said is right. XBMC for itself does the "downconversion" from DTS-HDMA to DTS so you only get the core track, even DTS-HDMA is shown at the OSD of your XBMC. You definitely will get the core track. I also have a XBMC Eden 11.0 installed on my board on another HDD. So I have the same audio output like you while playing HD audio content...only the core.

Greetings
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For bitstreaming HD audio you need a Next Generation ION (or ION2) platform.

The Zotac ION F-Series is an ION1 platform whereas the
ZOTAC ION-ITX T Series
is an ION2 platform.
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Thank you very much, but I need (for so long I don´t have a NAS) more than 2 S-ATA ports on it.

Gonna take a look for new hardware.
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I was just giving an example of an ION2 board from Zotac so you compare against the F-Series not suggesting you purchase it... Wink
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Yes, I know Wink

Just a noob-question...

Did I understand right, that only nVidia devices supports HD-Audio? So I have to buy an ION2 board? Are there any other supported boards?

Will a "ASROCK E350M1 Mini-ITX AMD A50M"-board with the on-board AMD Radeon HD6310 work?

or

Is it possible to get this with my ION F-Series and a i.e. nVidia GT430 to work?

Thanks for the answers

Greetings
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(2012-07-09, 11:38)vicbitter Wrote: For bitstreaming HD audio you need a Next Generation ION (or ION2) platform.

The Zotac ION F-Series is an ION1 platform whereas the
ZOTAC ION-ITX T Series
is an ION2 platform.

I have just bought a Zotac IONITX-S-E, the box says Next Generation ION and Xorg.0.log reports GT218.
Does it support bitstreaming HD audio?
It has optical, spdif and hdmi.
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@David1977 - just be aware that the HD-Audio restriction on ATI devices applies to linux specifically. I'm using an AMD Fusion board with ATI graphics and HDMI sound. Works fine on WIndows 7/8 with ATI Catalyst drivers. I'm waiting patiently for ATI/AMD to sort out the linux situation - just so you know you have options!
Asus AT5IONT-I motherboard (openelec Generic.x86_64-devel-20131213153730-r16559 nightly Gotham) - HDMI connection to Onkyo SR875 Receiver (5.1) - HDMI connection to Panasonic 42" plasma HDTV - Monitor Audio Bronze 5.1 speakers
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Thanks fat-tony, I know.

But I want to stay at linux
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(2012-07-09, 15:22)MastaG Wrote:
(2012-07-09, 11:38)vicbitter Wrote: For bitstreaming HD audio you need a Next Generation ION (or ION2) platform.

The Zotac ION F-Series is an ION1 platform whereas the
ZOTAC ION-ITX T Series
is an ION2 platform.

I have just bought a Zotac IONITX-S-E, the box says Next Generation ION and Xorg.0.log reports GT218.
Does it support bitstreaming HD audio?
It has optical, spdif and hdmi.

Yes, the Zotac IONITX-S-E has an ION2 so you should be good for bitstreaming HD audio.

You can only bitstream HD audio via HDMI due to the high bit rate...
(2012-07-09, 15:15)David1977 Wrote: Yes, I know Wink

Just a noob-question...

Did I understand right, that only nVidia devices supports HD-Audio? So I have to buy an ION2 board? Are there any other supported boards?

Will a "ASROCK E350M1 Mini-ITX AMD A50M"-board with the on-board AMD Radeon HD6310 work?

or

Is it possible to get this with my ION F-Series and a i.e. nVidia GT430 to work?

Thanks for the answers

Greetings

You are not limited to ION but any nVidia card that supports bitstreaming. From testing on the OpenELEC forums, it appears that both the GT430 and GT520 work great so you could add either to your existing ION F-Series setup. I would recommend you look at passively cooled versions of the cards to eliminate fan noise.

Cheers!
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Thank you very much

I found a passively cooled card from Zotac (ZOTAC GF GT 430 Zone Grafikkarte (PCI-e, 1GB GDDR3 Speicher, Dual-DVI, HDMI, 1 GPU)). I think this will work fine Wink
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Anybody who was having issues with device enumeration, a pull request was recently merged that changed how this worked. Pull the latest changes from master and compile. See if that fixes your issues.
HTPC: Gentoo linux amd64 w/ xbmc merged with AE
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Hey thanks for the update.

I just tried it, with xbmc built without pulse audio (and the daemon paused before starting xbmc), it only sees my motherboard output (ie the intel one) not the hdmi ATI one.
It also freezes when going through default (not sure why? maybe because on my system default is pulse).

I rebuilt xbmc with pulse support and started it without pausing pulse and this time it all works!
I can play passthrough or decoded streams with no problem: that's a first since I started using XBMC!
I always had to kill/pause pulse to get passthrough before.

Last annoying thing, is that when I pause the passthrough stream in XBMC, I can see that my receiver sees that (for example it switched from DTS to multichannel stereo), BUT no other player can access the audio...
output from mplayer while a DTS movie is paused in XBMC:
AO: [pulse] Init failed: Device or resource busy
Failed to initialize audio driver 'pulse'

This might be a pulse issue and not xbmc though...
Anyway thanks!
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The following commit breaks(no sound) DTS Core audio in a DTS MA-HD stream -> https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/commit/55e2...caaa783482, though movies with just a DTS audio format still work. Compiling the commit directly before allows DTS Core to properly be used -> https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/commit/2de2...58964adebf


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Hi,

It's possible to support for intel hd graphic (intel i3-2100T) with xbmc AE works correctly DTS Audio, because it's working only:

1) scenario 1 - XBMC --- hdmi ---TV Samsung

DTS - no
Dolby Digital 5.1 - yes
AC3 - yes
DTS-HD - no
DTS-MA -no


System
Quote:cat /etc/lsb-release
DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=12.04
DISTRIB_CODENAME=precise
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.04 LTS"

aplay -l
Quote: aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC892 Analog [ALC892 Analog]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 1: ALC892 Digital [ALC892 Digital]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
Subdevices: 0/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0


aplay -L
Quote:aplay -L
default
Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server
sysdefault:CARD=PCH
HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog
Default Audio Device
front:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog
Front speakers
surround40:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog
4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog
4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog
5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog
5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog
7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
iec958:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Digital
IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 0
HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=1
HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 1
HDMI Audio Output
dmix:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog
Direct sample mixing device
dmix:CARD=PCH,DEV=1
HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Digital
Direct sample mixing device
dmix:CARD=PCH,DEV=3
HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 0
Direct sample mixing device
dmix:CARD=PCH,DEV=7
HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 1
Direct sample mixing device
dsnoop:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog
Direct sample snooping device
dsnoop:CARD=PCH,DEV=1
HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Digital
Direct sample snooping device
dsnoop:CARD=PCH,DEV=3
HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 0
Direct sample snooping device
dsnoop:CARD=PCH,DEV=7
HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 1
Direct sample snooping device
hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog
Direct hardware device without any conversions
hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=1
HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Digital
Direct hardware device without any conversions
hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=3
HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 0
Direct hardware device without any conversions
hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=7
HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 1
Direct hardware device without any conversions
plughw:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog
Hardware device with all software conversions
plughw:CARD=PCH,DEV=1
HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Digital
Hardware device with all software conversions
plughw:CARD=PCH,DEV=3
HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 0
Hardware device with all software conversions
plughw:CARD=PCH,DEV=7
HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 1
Hardware device with all software conversions

Quote: cat /proc/asound/card0/eld#3.1
monitor_present 1
eld_valid 1
monitor_name SAMSUNG
connection_type HDMI
eld_version [0x2] CEA-861D or below
edid_version [0x3] CEA-861-B, C or D
manufacture_id 0x2d4c
product_id 0x669
port_id 0x0
support_hdcp 0
support_ai 1
audio_sync_delay 0
speakers [0x1] FL/FR
sad_count 1
sad0_coding_type [0x1] LPCM
sad0_channels 2
sad0_rates [0xe0] 32000 44100 48000
sad0_bits [0xe0000] 16 20 24

Quote: uname -r
3.3.0-999-generic-pae

Quote:dpkg -l |grep alsa
ii alsa-base 1.0.25+dfsg-0ubuntu1 ALSA driver configuration files
ii alsa-oss 1.0.25-1 ALSA wrapper for OSS applications
ii alsa-utils 1.0.25-1ubuntu5 Utilities for configuring and using ALSA
rc libsdl1.2debian-alsa 1.2.14-6.1ubuntu4 Simple DirectMedia Layer (with X11 and ALSA options)

http://pastebin.ca/2172224 - scenario 1

2) scenario 2 - XBMC --- receiver TX-SR608 --- TV SAMSUNG
DTS 5.1 - ok
Dolby Digital 5.1 - ok
DTS-HD - no / noise
DTS-MA - no / noise
http://paste.ubuntu.com/1098698/ - scenario 2




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