Video library redesign idea - How can we improve Smart Playlists, aka Filtered Lists?
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I use genre *all* the time. I have 700+ movies so if I don't have a movie in mind that I want to watch isn't really feasible to look through them all to pick one. I usually decide what genre I (or we) feel like watching (usually Action or Comedy are the 2 most selected ones) and then I filter out half the library right there by choosing the genre. The best way to improve this for me would be to allow selecting multiple genres at once (so I can find Action Comedies, for example).

I never use the Years filter, not because I don't want to but because it's not flexible enough. Sometimes I want to watch a recent movie (say, 2005 or newer) but I'm not going to dig out the keyboard and make a smart playlist just for that, and I'm not going to look through 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 all separately. Or sometimes I feel like a 90's action movie, for example, but again it's not worth making a smart playlist for it so I just find them myself. For me the years filter would only be useful if I could apply comparators to it (newer than 2000, between 1990 and 1999, etc).

I have never used the directors or actors filter ever. 750 movies with full cast list makes the actors list way too huge to even bother looking through.

The only thing I have used the Studios list for is as a hack to sort by resolution or audio info. Aeon & Serenity use kludged NFO files to store media information (resolution, codec, audio type, audio channels, etc) in the Studios field which has the side effect of allowing you to sort by them in the Studios tab. I use this sometimes when I don't want to watch an SD movie or I want a movie with surround sound or something. This is really just a wish for proper media flagging and has nothing to do with the library redesign.

What you list in your blog is basically exactly what I would hope for - a way to make a simplified smartlists on the fly. For me to filter out all movies older than 1990, for example, it should only take 30 seconds... just bring up the filter screen, go to the Year tab, and add a condition.

There should also be more options available - IMDB rating, for one. Duration would also be handy - if I have only an hour and a half of free time it'd sure be nice to be able to find the movies that I can watch, hehe.

While considering the library redesign it might be a good time to consider a way to allow movies to be grouped. Finding the Bond movies is a HUGE hassle, and other movies I've been forced to rename so they're grouped together (Rambo movies, Die Hard movies). Other movies are sorted alphabetically even when it doesn't make sense (Oceans Eleven, Oceans Thirteen, Oceans Twelve). It'd be nice if I could make a set of movies which would be sorted according to the set title and then alphabetically within the set, with some indication that they're in the set (indentation)? I don't know if it's even important for this to be doable from within XBMC - I imagine 90% of people with enough movies to want grouping are using an external program to manage their meta-media anyway.

EDIT: I have never used any of those filters for my TV shows. I have about 50 shows and filtering them has never even crossed my mind.

EDIT2: I know this is kind of a feature request but I think it fits with this post. One thing I wish I could do almost every time I go to choose a movie is choose from movies I've never seen before. I know, this is already supported with Watched/Unwatched. The problem is that it is way too much work to redo my whole library with watched/unwatched every time I rebuild it (which happens pretty frequently actually... when I add a bunch of trailers or fanart, change a bunch of posters, mass rename, move movies around, etc. it's just easier to rescrape from the XML NFOs than it is to manually refresh every movie I changed). Not being able to read watched from the NFO means I lose it on every rebuild and it's not worth the upkeep of setting it on 700 movies every time. Of course to implement this properly would mean some changes to how XBMC treats the library and NFO files because you would want XBMC to be able to write changed watched statuses back to the NFO files rather than only to the internal library, but since I'm talking about how I use the library and its filtering I figured I would bring it up.
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