[seth.feinberg]

* Screenshot of scraper and sources like you did previously.
* debug log where you restart xbmc, wait 5 minutes (do nothing), then manually initiate a library update. (Make sure you had disabled update library on startup beforehand)

Sources.xml: http://pastebin.com/rKTxmR2p
Screenshots of Scraper/Sources: Movies Scraper - http://imgur.com/Z8xiYlh ; Movies Settings - http://imgur.com/ZHYGXuS ; TV Shows Scraper - http://imgur.com/RziHR54 ; TV Shows Settings - http://imgur.com/3m8JHRq
Debug Log w/ 10 minute wait (I got distracted) before manual update: http://pastebin.com/5CgQS6sd

Full disclosure: I had "enable Trailers (YouTube)" checked and unchecked it. I have no idea how that got checked....

[Kib]

Thanks., the reason I asked for all of this is because now I (and others) can take this post as a point of further deduction.

[seth.feinberg]

Thanks., the reason I asked for all of this is because now I (and others) can take this post as a point of further deduction.

of course whatever is needed. I've 100% exhausted my limited abilities so I'm completely at the mercy of generous people like you. So thanks again. If you don't have any further ideas, I think I'm going to blow it out one more time and rebuild everything without having "scan recursively" and "enable trailers (YouTube) enabled...and pray. Hopefully I can get this all sorted out in time to start the process back over for version 13.0

[seth.feinberg]

Hey @Kibje, just checking if you (or anybody else) has any other suggestions for me to try to solve this problem? If not I'm gonna try to rebuild the db a few different ways this weekend. First, blowing everything out and adding everything back in w/o scan recursively checked, then if that doesn't work (as I expect it won't) adding each source individually w/o mysql.

[seth.feinberg]

I blew out my db (mysql and in the userdata folder) and starting to reload in my movies without "Scan Recursively" checked. After the refresh of all paths for Movies was done, I tested a Manual Library Update before I loaded TV Shows and to my delight it began without the 1-2 minute delay that I've been experiencing since I upgraded to Frodo!

So that's great news. We'll see if it sticks after I load in the TV Shows. I did notice something odd in the log while the TV Shows were being refreshed, that someone had mentioned earlier: Endless

Code:

23:06:33 T:11160   ERROR: XFILE::CDirectory::GetDirectory - Error getting nfs://192.168.1.85/volume1/Video/TV Shows/Space Ghost Coast to Coast/.actors
23:06:33 T:11160   ERROR: Failed to open(//TV Shows/Space Ghost Coast to Coast/.actors) opendir call failed with "NFS: Lookup of //TV Shows failed with NFS3ERR_NOENT(-2)"

errors which I gather from this link (http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter...l0/err.htm) means that it can't find that folder, which makes sense since there are no .actors folders in any of the TV Shows I've seen this error for (and I have Show Hidden Folders checked in Control Panel->Folder Options). Also not sure if this is related but the TV shows seem to be loading in a random order (no pattern I can tell). When I loaded the Movies, it loaded the few movies I had in a DVD structure (with a Video_TS folder) first and the rest alphabetically. I'll report back if the delay is still present after the TV Shows load...

Edit: Here's the partial log (its still loading) with all the NFS3_ERR(-2): http://pastebin.com/88EQCjy3

[seth.feinberg]

Well I finished loading all the TV Shows and the 1-2 minute delay has reappeared. So at least the issue has been narrowed down to specifically the TV Shows. It also seems likely the issue is related to all the NFS3_ERR(-2) that show up for every show during the load. Seems like I need to look into these phantom .actors folders a bit more....

Here's a debug log: http://pastebin.com/JAaLPbFj

And here is a screenshot of an ls -al of a random TV Shows folder: http://i.imgur.com/XqZabZ5.png

Which clearly doesn't show a .actors folder that XBMC is constantly trying to find, but does illuminate that my permissions are a mess. When I first installed Frodo, I was having a similar lengthed 'freeze' of xbmc as I finished playing a TV Show and before I could select the next one that we traced back to the addon "TV Tunes". Seems rather likely from that screenshot that permissions is the most likely culprit. Here is my /etc/exports file again: http://imgur.com/eD05fzz. I all_squash because at the time it was the only way I could get my ATV2 to see the thumbnails, but now that they are centralized I feel it would be worth it to try the standard /etc/exports suggested in the wiki. Does anyone have any suggestions for a mass change of the permissions of my TV Shows folder to give me more seamless access?

[Kib]

create a new group, add all users that need access there to it, then chown the lot with group set as that group.

[seth.feinberg]

create a new group, add all users that need access there to it, then chown the lot with group set as that group.

Well theoretically all the users that access it are members of the "users" group that already have access to most of the folders. That is except tvtheme files or anything else that was created inside xbmc itself (because of the root_squash). But seems more than likely that this is my issue so I'll do some more research on nfs permissions etc. But what about xbmc constantly trying to access the phantom .actors folder? what's that all about? Is it cause xbmc can't create them? Or that it expects them? If the latter, how would I create them?

[Kib]

It is because you have it set up to check for actors

Settings -> Video -> Library -> "Download actor thumbnails when adding to the library".

[seth.feinberg]

It is because you have it set up to check for actors

Settings -> Video -> Library -> "Download actor thumbnails when adding to the library".

Thanks! So am I correct to interrupt all those NFS3_ERR(-2) as XMBC being unable to create/write the .actors folder? The errors more explicitly states that it's an "error getting" but I would've assumed xbmc should have just created the .actors folder if it didn't find it. Now that I've done a folder-wide chown and chmod on my Video folder, I'm going to try AGAIN to reload the TV Shows db from scratch, but should I also use some command-line-fu to create a .actors folder in each TV Show folder?

[Kib]

Please do not create an actors folder in every folder. Just disable that setting and XBMC will not try to see f you have any actor images there.

More info here: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=162441

[seth.feinberg]

Please do not create an actors folder in every folder. Just disable that setting and XBMC will not try to see f you have any actor images there.

More info here: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=162441

Thanks for the link, that was very informative (if not just a tad over my head). I will just disable it and report back.

[seth.feinberg]

Well, i've been here before so I'm going to temper my excitement but I seem to be out of the woods. I, again, blew out all the db's (from userdata and MySQL) and reloaded the TV Shows back in (now with Download Actor Thumbnails unchecked). This afternoon when I checked it (and it was done Refreshing all paths) I attempted a manual Library Update and did NOT experience the 1-2 minute "freeze". I can definitely live without actor thumbnails, so now I begin the terrifying task of adding back in all my plugins. Thanks to everyone for all your help!

[seth.feinberg]

I knew there was reason to temper my excitement...I loaded in the movies then attempted a manual update...and experienced the "freeze" of xbmc. here's a log where I attempted two consecutive manual Library updates: http://pastebin.com/z33dbE3w

You can see at line 626 there is a 30 second gap where XBMC froze and then a 40 second gap at line 2170. Its crazy to think that simply adding a second source causes this...right?

Edit: I am pleased that the length of the freeze has decreased significantly, don't want to diminish that

[seth.feinberg]

I tried loading my movies/TV Shows in without the MySQL issue and when I did manual updates did NOT cause the 30-50 second "freeze" of xbmc. So the issue is somewhere in there but I really don't know how to trouble shoot from there...