(2014-01-09, 08:10)tekno Wrote: One question and yes it is serious....
Why is XBMC allowing the use of the logo on the Pivos Xios DS Box if no current XBMC build is available? That is the stuff that class action litigation is made of and xbmc.org probably has no interest in being a party to that!
As a Mac user I can't tell you how many retail box products I've bought over the years that said "Mac support" and either had crappy Mac support, outdated software, or dropped Mac support soon afterwards. A logo on a box means nothing. (yes, really, they used to sell software in boxes in stores.)
The logo on the Pivos box, which I'm looking at right now, only means that XBMC runs on the Pivos XIOS. No where does it say that Pivos will provide a copy of XBMC themselves, or that it will run every possible version out there, or how long they will support it, but simply that XBMC can run on that box. Even if you couldn't install v12.3 in any shape or form, just the fact that the Pivos can run some version of XBMC makes the box's statement factual.
Even with an AMLogic-enabled v12.3
*, there are still a few things that you can't do on XBMC for Android, but are possible for XBMC for Windows. XBMC is not 100% completely and totally identical across the main desktop platforms (though we do try to keep them all the same). Why aren't you complaining about that? Intel and Zotac, who are much bigger than Pivos, have used our logo too.
*(Anyone can build an amlogic-enabled v12.3. Anyone. The "magic" is in the code, and once there, there isn't anything that Pivos could do in the binary that someone else can't. That's how open source code works. Why they haven't done it themselves? I don't know, but they're not blocking anyone from it.)
What you should be asking is not "why isn't Pivos making amlogic-enabled v12 builds", but rather, "why isn't Team XBMC making amlogic-enabled v12 builds"
*. You keep trying to blame Pivos, and really, it was never their problem to begin with. They were already selling the Pivos XIOS before XBMC was even ported to Android. XBMC for Android in v12 was barely considered a finished product. We still tell people that it's "in development", and that they shouldn't really expect it to be fleshed out till at least v13 final. The fact that v12 ran really well on the XIOS, as good as it does on most other platforms, was a bonus.
*(The answer is that it would be a pain in the ass, due to the nature of amlogic hardware, and that it was better in the long run to focus on long term solutions rather than manually make a ton of different AMLogic builds. I actually asked this question myself and was rightfully put in my place for not knowing what I was talking about.)
Skipping a minor bugfix release does not entitle you to
anything. You get no lawsuit, you get no refund, you get no compensation. Instead, you get XBMC v13 in a few months (maybe less) which is a massive improvement. They are a small company with limited resources, and they made the right call.
If you wanted to complain about them no longer supporting a Linux install then you might have a better argument, except the retail box for the Pivos XIOS says nothing about Linux.