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DSPlayer (DirectShow Player for XBMC) Frodo build available
(2014-01-06, 16:43)deh2k7 Wrote:
(2014-01-06, 06:44)deh2k7 Wrote:
(2014-01-04, 19:36)deh2k7 Wrote: I've been away for quite some time and want to take advantage of some of the latest improvements. Currently I use a full LAV setup, splitter and decoders.

I'd like to update my setup to have DSPlayer with FFDShow RAW scaling to improve image quality. I assume I should also switch from LAVSplitter to AVSplitter. From my research, it looks like this is a good guide for setting up FFDShow RAW: http://www.ezoden.com/684/tutorial-htpc/7

Can someone confirm this and comment if any steps are unnecessary or anything else needs to be done for FFDShow RAW postprocessing? I am planning on using the AVISynth part of the setup.

As far as mediasconfig and filters config, can someone post their current XML for such a setup?

Finally, I have some questions about SVP. I'm just learning about it today. It looks like it also uses AVISynth in order to work. Does anyone have suggestions for how AVISyth should be set up with FFDShow RAW post processing? Maybe a pointer to another guide?

Are there any drawbacks to using SVP?

All of my files are either mkv or mpg, most are direct rips, but I have used x264 to re-encode my some of my larger BR Rips from my collection. Thanks again for the help!

OK, after digging around some more, i think i have found what I need for getting FFD in RAW mode and Avisynth working with my setup. I'll post my config once it's all complete.

I have a question, however. I set up multiple profiles for FFDShow for different processing based on qhat the original source material. FOr example 1080p material gets a lot let 'stuff' than 480 DVD rips. Unfortunately, whenever XBMC plays a file, only the standard 'default' profile is ever used, despeite me configuring for different profiles based on incoming resolution. Does anyone have any recommendations on how to use a profile other than default?

i realize that I may have been a bit unclear.

For ALL media files, regardless of resolution, in DSPlayer, I use the following config: AVSplitter, LAV for Audio/Video, and extra Filter for FFDShow RAW. I have separate profiles configured in FFDShow for different resolutions, i.e. don't want scaling resizing for 1080p, but i do for other incoming resolutions. I can't seem to get FFDShow to select the appropriate profile when XBMC calls the FFDShow RAW filter. Is this possible? If so, can someone provide an example on the FFDShow front to help me do this?
Can anyone else confirm this issue with ffdshow raw profiles not working? I'm waiting until a Gotham build is released to try DSPlayer, but that would be a deal breaker as I have profiles for different frame rates and resolutions. Losing that wouldn't work for me.
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(2014-01-31, 13:59)tfouto Wrote: Yes, i understand that. I understand that mediaconfig.xml is used to select the videocodec. If mpcvideocodec is what codec is being used? mpcvideocodec is really a codec? For instance, can we change EVR to madvr or other? Do we change that on MPC-HC GUI? My doubt is solely on mpcvideocodec.

My friend, if you have that codec installed from an old distro of MPC-HC and you ask DSPlayer to use it, then it will.

If you want to play around with this codec that was being used before the folks at MPC-HC moved to LAV, you can download it here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpc-hc/f...p/download

EVR and madVR are renderers, not codecs.
DSPlayer cannot use madVR: http://www.google.com/search?q=xbmc+madvr+dsplayer

You can change renderer settings in the DSPlayer GUI within XBMC or in the renderersettings.xml file: http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=DSP...r_settings
Changes you makes in the mpc-hc gui are not seen by DSPlayer.
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(2014-01-31, 14:11)KenV99 Wrote:
(2014-01-31, 13:59)tfouto Wrote: Yes, i understand that. I understand that mediaconfig.xml is used to select the videocodec. If mpcvideocodec is what codec is being used? mpcvideocodec is really a codec? For instance, can we change EVR to madvr or other? Do we change that on MPC-HC GUI? My doubt is solely on mpcvideocodec.

My friend, if you have that codec installed from an old distro of MPC-HC and you ask DSPlayer to use it, then it will.

If you want to play around with this codec that was being used before the folks at MPC-HC moved to LAV, you can download it here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpc-hc/f...p/download

EVR and madVR are renderers, not codecs.
DSPlayer cannot use madVR: http://www.google.com/search?q=xbmc+madvr+dsplayer

You can change renderer settings in the DSPlayer GUI within XBMC or in the renderersettings.xml file: http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=DSP...r_settings
Changes you makes in the mpc-hc gui are not seen by DSPlayer.

thanks...
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(2014-01-30, 21:53)KenV99 Wrote: Filtersconfig.xml: http://pastebin.com/KNqJNMw6
Mediasconfig.xml: http://pastebin.com/waRZ0zcq

This has been working for me for quite a while.
Using graphstudionext is indispensable for making sure you have things running correctly.

awesome thanks Ken!! i had MPC-HC running good, but i didnt like losing all the internal options... so DSPlayer will still access FFDShow so SVP will activate?

thanks again!
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(2014-01-31, 18:51)gregh77 Wrote:
(2014-01-30, 21:53)KenV99 Wrote: Filtersconfig.xml: http://pastebin.com/KNqJNMw6
Mediasconfig.xml: http://pastebin.com/waRZ0zcq

This has been working for me for quite a while.
Using graphstudionext is indispensable for making sure you have things running correctly.

awesome thanks Ken!! i had MPC-HC running good, but i didnt like losing all the internal options... so DSPlayer will still access FFDShow so SVP will activate?

thanks again!

Yes, it's been activating it fine. My xml is using avsplitter, but to tell you the truth, I go back and forth between that and lavsplitter. I use MPC-HC also and I agree - I wish there were overlays to access options on a big screen. I'm a little near sighted and reading standard size text in windows at 1920 x 1080 from my couch results in me squinting to the point that I'm going to get wrinkles...
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(2014-01-31, 21:29)KenV99 Wrote:
(2014-01-31, 18:51)gregh77 Wrote:
(2014-01-30, 21:53)KenV99 Wrote: Filtersconfig.xml: http://pastebin.com/KNqJNMw6
Mediasconfig.xml: http://pastebin.com/waRZ0zcq

This has been working for me for quite a while.
Using graphstudionext is indispensable for making sure you have things running correctly.

awesome thanks Ken!! i had MPC-HC running good, but i didnt like losing all the internal options... so DSPlayer will still access FFDShow so SVP will activate?

thanks again!

Yes, it's been activating it fine. My xml is using avsplitter, but to tell you the truth, I go back and forth between that and lavsplitter. I use MPC-HC also and I agree - I wish there were overlays to access options on a big screen. I'm a little near sighted and reading standard size text in windows at 1920 x 1080 from my couch results in me squinting to the point that I'm going to get wrinkles...

what do you think is the main difference between the two splitters?

do you find a major difference in picture quality using DSPlayer with SVP/ReClock vs MPC-HC with MadVR using SVP/ReCLock?
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(2014-01-31, 22:29)gregh77 Wrote: what do you think is the main difference between the two splitters?

do you find a major difference in picture quality using DSPlayer with SVP/ReClock vs MPC-HC with MadVR using SVP/ReCLock?

AVSplitter is supposed to provide dialogs for Blu-ray title and MKV edition choices. But I never saw or used those dialogs. When I get a Bluray, I immediately rip it to an mp4. And I occasionally have issues with subtitles with that splitter compared to LAV.
Truthfully, no I don't see a substantial difference. I don't use ReClock. I'm in the US and don't have any PAL content and for whatever reason, none of my NTSC content is ever jerky or out of sync.

And I go back and forth about SVP. For some content I really like it. But as soon as I see artifacting or tearing, I turn it off. I've tweaked the settings both on my HTPC and my moderately beefy work machine and for some scenes, no matter what I do there is artifacting.
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(2014-01-31, 23:06)KenV99 Wrote:
(2014-01-31, 22:29)gregh77 Wrote: what do you think is the main difference between the two splitters?

do you find a major difference in picture quality using DSPlayer with SVP/ReClock vs MPC-HC with MadVR using SVP/ReCLock?

AVSplitter is supposed to provide dialogs for Blu-ray title and MKV edition choices. But I never saw or used those dialogs. When I get a Bluray, I immediately rip it to an mp4. And I occasionally have issues with subtitles with that splitter compared to LAV.
Truthfully, no I don't see a substantial difference. I don't use ReClock. I'm in the US and don't have any PAL content and for whatever reason, none of my NTSC content is ever jerky or out of sync.

And I go back and forth about SVP. For some content I really like it. But as soon as I see artifacting or tearing, I turn it off. I've tweaked the settings both on my HTPC and my moderately beefy work machine and for some scenes, no matter what I do there is artifacting.

thanks for your help Ken, i do see a little tearing as well with SVP time to time, almost like an aura around people when they walk thru a scene real fast. kind of weird. its not all the time though. hopefully with the config files you gave to me these filter choices will make a little difference in picture quality if i choose not to use SVP.... even though i dont use PAL either, i find ReClock makes the sound a little cleaner. might be just me, my setup isnt great until we build our home....
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ok, i edited the config files, but when i try to play a movie, it looks like its going to start playing then it goes back to the movie list. something isnt activating, maybe one of the codecs?
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(2014-02-01, 05:06)gregh77 Wrote: ok, i edited the config files, but when i try to play a movie, it looks like its going to start playing then it goes back to the movie list. something isnt activating, maybe one of the codecs?

Check your log file... userdata/username/AppData/Roaming/XBMC/xbmc.log
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(2014-02-01, 08:33)KenV99 Wrote:
(2014-02-01, 05:06)gregh77 Wrote: ok, i edited the config files, but when i try to play a movie, it looks like its going to start playing then it goes back to the movie list. something isnt activating, maybe one of the codecs?

Check your log file... userdata/username/AppData/Roaming/XBMC/xbmc.log

ok i got it playing fine now, but its not activating the extra filter ffdvideodec to start SVP......
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Are you using graphstudionext to see what's happening?
Try manually building what you expect to happen there to see if all of the components are working.
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i tried but im not sure if im doing it right. thanks for the help. in the media config file i have this..

<rule filetypes="avi|divx|ogm|flv|mp4|mov|m4v|m2v|ts|mpeg|mpg|m2ts|mkv">
<source filter="haali" />
<splitter filter="haali" />
<video filter="lavvideodec" />
<audio filter="lavaudiodec" />
<extra>
<extra filter="ffdrawvid" />
</extra>
</rule>

the file plays in DSPlayer, it just isnt activating SVP, says its still waiting
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If your using KenV99's mediasconfig and filtersconfig as a template, then your 'extra' filter is incorrect - it should be <extra filter="ffdrawdec" />
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(2014-02-01, 09:39)gregh77 Wrote: i tried but im not sure if im doing it right. thanks for the help. in the media config file i have this..

<rule filetypes="avi|divx|ogm|flv|mp4|mov|m4v|m2v|ts|mpeg|mpg|m2ts|mkv">
<source filter="haali" />
<splitter filter="haali" />
<video filter="lavvideodec" />
<audio filter="lavaudiodec" />
<extra>
<extra filter="ffdrawvid" />
</extra>
</rule>

the file plays in DSPlayer, it just isnt activating SVP, says its still waiting

(2014-02-01, 11:47)steelman1991 Wrote: If your using KenV99's mediasconfig and filtersconfig as a template, then your 'extra' filter is incorrect - it should be <extra filter="ffdrawdec" />

Indeed, it depends on how you named it in filtersconfig.xml. Can you post that or a link to that in pastebin?
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