[hdmkv]

don't have 'Akira' disc to test 5.1 192KHz

Here is a sample from Akira - Sample Actually, it doesn't have a PCM track, the Japanese Dolby TrueHD track is 24-bit 192kHz. You may have to disable passthrough and let it decode to LPCM.

I guess, you only have to test the 96kHz multichannel sample from 2L.

Thanks... curious to find out myself .

[halfelite]

Yes, same HiMediaWrapper to external player implementation for now. 3D subs is listed in the specs. Can you point me to your previous explanation on how to check for this again? I have just a few 3D ISO's w/subs throughout the movie... 'Stalingrad (2013)', 'The Taking of Tiger Mountain (2014)' & 'Young Detective Dee Rise of the Sea Dragon (2013)'. I can test w/one of these.

would look like this if they are 3d subs



if it looks like this if they are 2d subs

[hdmkv]

Perfect, thanks... got it finally. Picture(s) worth a thousand words .

[hdmkv]

I don't want to get myself into NDA trouble (informal as it may be); hopefully this is okay to post (but, it's mostly good)...

@halfelite & @ alanisrox693D, subs in current-gen Q5 and new Q10 Pro look exactly the same; seem fine to me (based on examples above):

@wesk05, when I play the 'Akira' clip w/LPCM mode, I get no audio. However, LPCM from '3:10 to Yuma' & other BD's I have pass fine as multichannel 5.1 or 7.1. And, the FLAC 5.1 96kHz-24bit clip passed fine as well. My Denon AVR's 'Info' on-screen display only indicated that all 6 channels were active, but the front LCD panel showed 96kHz and 'multich'.

@alanisrox69, here are the results for your MPEG2 samples:
> 29.97 4-2-0 H.264 1080i 26mbps DTS-HD MA 2.0 Sample = Perfect A/V playback
> 29.97 4-2-0 MPEG2 1080i 35mbps DTS-HD MA 5.1 Sample = Perfect A/V playback
> 59.94 4-2-0 MPEG2 720p 20mbps MPA2.0 Sample = Perfect A/V playback
> 29.97 4-2-2 MPEG2 1080i 27mbps DTS-HD MA 5.1 Sample = No picture, audio fine (think I conveyed this before)

[alanisrox69]

Do you have any filters enabled on your TV? like Smooth Screen or any of that "soap opera" effect crap?

[alanisrox69]

are Q10 and Q10 Pro based on the same chip?

[wesk05]

@wesk05, when I play the 'Akira' clip w/LPCM mode, I get no audio. However, LPCM from '3:10 to Yuma' & other BD's I have pass fine as multichannel 5.1 or 7.1. And, the FLAC 5.1 96kHz-24bit clip passed fine as well. My Denon AVR's 'Info' on-screen display only indicated that all 6 channels were active, but the front LCD panel showed 96kHz and 'multich'.

Interesting... On the SHIELD with Kodi v17.0 (pre alpha), it decodes to 48kHz LPCM (I have to check the bit). Are you saying FLAC was bitstreamed? Yeah, the front display only shows the signal format and sample rate. I thought it displayed the bit depth also.

[opeters]

@ HDMKV

Subs look indeed good on both players and that's very odd.
Since I have owned a Q5, I know for sure it was not working then.
Stupid question.. but are you sure that those subs aren't hart-coded...

[looun]

@wesk05, when I play the 'Akira' clip w/LPCM mode, I get no audio. However, LPCM from '3:10 to Yuma' & other BD's I have pass fine as multichannel 5.1 or 7.1. And, the FLAC 5.1 96kHz-24bit clip passed fine as well. My Denon AVR's 'Info' on-screen display only indicated that all 6 channels were active, but the front LCD panel showed 96kHz and 'multich'.

Interesting... On the SHIELD with Kodi v17.0 (pre alpha), it decodes to 48kHz LPCM (I have to check the bit). Are you saying FLAC was bitstreamed? Yeah, the front display only shows the signal format and sample rate. I thought it displayed the bit depth also.

Hi-end audio is supported only by himdia music and hisilicon music APP:
- 192kHz passthrough, checking A/V receiver screen info ( 24 bit not secure )
- 96kHz multi channel was supported llike current genetion of Q10/Q5
Alll others app incliding kodi can output only 48hz.

yes, FLAC was bitstream.

[hdmkv]

Thanks looun... yes, FLAC is bitstreamed, and 192kHz is indeed passed (AVR front panel shows this).

Subs look indeed good on both players and that's very odd.
Since I have owned a Q5, I know for sure it was not working then.
Stupid question.. but are you sure that those subs aren't hart-coded...

That would mean I'd have re-encoded my rips , so nope. Above sub examples are from 1:1 rips in ISO. Only thing I do with all my rips, whether ISO or MKV, is mux only the necessary sub track in. It's the same English PGS track in the full ISO.

are Q10 and Q10 Pro based on the same chip?

Q10 Pro uses HiSilicon's latest Hi3798C V200 SoC, while current-gen uses Hi3798C. V200 is 64-bit, has HiSilicon 2.0 "Imprex" PQ engine, and supports 4K+HDR. It's also noticeably (though not significantly so) faster, including supporting higher bitrate clips. I've tested up to 255Mbps Jellyfish clips (H.264 & HEVC) w/o stutter, same as with nVidia Shield TV.

Do you have any filters enabled on your TV? like Smooth Screen or any of that "soap opera" effect crap?

No.

[funkybudda72]

What is the projected release date for Q10 Pro?

[hdmkv]

March 31, but no USA distributor unfortunately (so will likely need to rely on eBay). For EU, it's Futeko.

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Re: 3D subs, I've added a new 3D ISO sample to the A/V samples wiki w/3D subs.

[Skank]

Those 3d subs dont work wi my q5/m3 either.

[Stereodude]

Thanks looun... yes, FLAC is bitstreamed, and 192kHz is indeed passed (AVR front panel shows this).

Uh, what?!?!? How do you bitstream FLAC? I've never seen a spec for sending FLAC over HDMI. Do you mean LPCM?

[hdmkv]

Yes, LPCM output at 192kHz for a 192kHz source (below is the sample I tested). Not down-rezzed or down-sampled from what I can tell.

Code:

General
Complete name                            : Y:\Various Clips\AV Test Clips\HD Audio Tests\FLAC 2.0 192kHz-24bits.flac
Format                                   : FLAC
Format/Info                              : Free Lossless Audio Codec
File size                                : 16.4 MiB
Duration                                 : 29s 279ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 4 690 Kbps

Audio
Format                                   : FLAC
Format/Info                              : Free Lossless Audio Codec
Duration                                 : 29s 279ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 4 687 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L R
Sampling rate                            : 192 KHz
Bit depth                                : 24 bits
Stream size                              : 16.4 MiB (100%)
Writing library                          : libFLAC 1.1.4 (UTC 2007-02-13)

And, for 5.1, here's the sample I tested (I don't have any 5.1 at 192kHz):

Code:

General
Complete name                            : Y:\Various Clips\AV Test Clips\HD Audio Tests\FLAC 5.1 96kHz-24bits.flac
Format                                   : FLAC
Format/Info                              : Free Lossless Audio Codec
File size                                : 204 MiB
Duration                                 : 4mn 55s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 5 794 Kbps
Album                                    : MAGNIFICAT
Album/Performer                          : Nidarosdomens jentekor & TrondheimSolistene
Part                                     : 1
Track name                               : Arnesen: MAGNIFICAT 4. Et misericordia
Track name/Position                      : 4
Track name/Total                         : 10
Performer                                : Nidarosdomens jentekor & TrondheimSolistene
Composer                                 : Kim Andre Arnesen
Encoded by                               : Merging Technologies Album Publishing
Label                                    : 2L
Genre                                    : Classical
Recorded date                            : 2014
ISRC                                     : NOMPP1407040
Comment                                  : Generated by Merging Technologies Album Publishing / Label Code: 2L
BARCODE                                  : 7041888519621
CATALOGNUMBER                            : 7041888519621

Audio
Format                                   : FLAC
Format/Info                              : Free Lossless Audio Codec
Duration                                 : 4mn 55s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 5 794 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                            : 96.0 KHz
Bit depth                                : 24 bits
Stream size                              : 204 MiB (100%)
Writing library                          : libFLAC 1.3.0 (UTC 2013-05-26)