2016-06-09, 20:27
Troy we seem to have cross posted, please check my edit of previous post
(2016-06-09, 20:21)deveng24 Wrote: Dave,
a few fyi .....
1) if you see in the DB characters under the artist table, i found characters in the involvedpeople tag... when deleted/modified issues was corrected... did not think artists were coming from that tag.
2) I took my journey folder cleared all of MY tags and used MB picard to tag everything... with no modifications loaded it into kodi, ended up with two journey nodes one with a single album, all other 20 or so in the other node.... MBs tags id3 fields album artist with Journey but artist with Journey, Tron, Journey vs. Rastaliens (the "vs." happens with a few other also), and a Journey vs. Alexampt & Mononegro. i have tried to change the tag to Journey only (no change in the kodi library).
Troy
(2016-06-09, 20:31)DaveBlake Wrote:(2016-06-09, 20:21)deveng24 Wrote: Dave,
a few fyi .....
1) if you see in the DB characters under the artist table, i found characters in the involvedpeople tag... when deleted/modified issues was corrected... did not think artists were coming from that tag.
2) I took my journey folder cleared all of MY tags and used MB picard to tag everything... with no modifications loaded it into kodi, ended up with two journey nodes one with a single album, all other 20 or so in the other node.... MBs tags id3 fields album artist with Journey but artist with Journey, Tron, Journey vs. Rastaliens (the "vs." happens with a few other also), and a Journey vs. Alexampt & Mononegro. i have tried to change the tag to Journey only (no change in the kodi library).
Troy
Yes, one of the enhancements of v17 is the processing of the TMCL and TIPL tags, along with composer and conductor etc. Only listed when you add a roles node and look for them, they do not clutter the artists node, but they are stored in the artist table of the db.
I will look at Journey tomorrow, time for dinner now. But do check out my previous post again.
(2016-06-09, 20:45)deveng24 Wrote: thanks for looking at all the stuff im throwing at you.... and i have removed most of the MB tags in my main library so, kodi, organizes them my way i expect them to be grouped. I have not yet updated my month backup library yet so, that i could help where the MB tags are causing problems....
(2016-06-09, 20:21)deveng24 Wrote: 2) I took my journey folder cleared all of MY tags and used MB picard to tag everything... with no modifications loaded it into kodi, ended up with two journey nodes one with a single album, all other 20 or so in the other node.... MBs tags id3 fields album artist with Journey but artist with Journey, Tron, Journey vs. Rastaliens (the "vs." happens with a few other also), and a Journey vs. Alexampt & Mononegro. i have tried to change the tag to Journey only (no change in the kodi library).
(2016-06-10, 10:36)DaveBlake Wrote:(2016-06-09, 20:21)deveng24 Wrote: 2) I took my journey folder cleared all of MY tags and used MB picard to tag everything... with no modifications loaded it into kodi, ended up with two journey nodes one with a single album, all other 20 or so in the other node.... MBs tags id3 fields album artist with Journey but artist with Journey, Tron, Journey vs. Rastaliens (the "vs." happens with a few other also), and a Journey vs. Alexampt & Mononegro. i have tried to change the tag to Journey only (no change in the kodi library).
Since this is comming from unadulterated Picard tagging let's see what could be tripping up Kodi.
a) With the 2 entries for "Journey" in the artists node, which album is the one on its own?
b) I had not encountered " vs. " in Musicbrainz release artists before. Recent Picard should also be adding an ARTISTS (note the s) tag as a hint what the artist names are that go with the mbid tags. It makes it clear whether "Journey vs. Alexampt & Mononegro" is 1, 2 or 3 artists etc., some artist names have punctuation in them, other times it is just how the album credits were written and there are several individual artist involved. Additionally v17 now has the option of multiple artist separators, so " vs. " could be added as a known separator.
I don't think b) is causing a), but which album are these on so I can check out what Picard is doing?
Kodi (17.0-ALPHA2 Git:2016-05-26-ecda58a). Platform: Linux x86 64-bit
NOTICE: Using Debug Kodi x64 build
NOTICE: Kodi compiled May 26 2016 by GCC 4.8.4 for Linux x86 64-bit version 3.13.11 (199947)
(2016-06-10, 14:59)bsoriano Wrote: While I can see the benefit of having MBids, in my case, since the software I use to manage my collection doesn't use them, for the time being I will not either. Today I will do a new test, without loading the artists that only appear in compilations. To be sure I understand correctly, does this mean that Kodi, when scanning the music files, will only create artists for those that are tagged as albumartist? Please confirm. If this is the case, then I will probably be able to have nfos, artwork and the like for each one of those, since each is in its own folder in my collection. Thanks.
(2016-06-10, 10:36)DaveBlake Wrote:(2016-06-09, 20:21)deveng24 Wrote: 2) I took my journey folder cleared all of MY tags and used MB picard to tag everything... with no modifications loaded it into kodi, ended up with two journey nodes one with a single album, all other 20 or so in the other node.... MBs tags id3 fields album artist with Journey but artist with Journey, Tron, Journey vs. Rastaliens (the "vs." happens with a few other also), and a Journey vs. Alexampt & Mononegro. i have tried to change the tag to Journey only (no change in the kodi library).
Since this is comming from unadulterated Picard tagging let's see what could be tripping up Kodi.
a) With the 2 entries for "Journey" in the artists node, which album is the one on its own?
b) I had not encountered " vs. " in Musicbrainz release artists before. Recent Picard should also be adding an ARTISTS (note the s) tag as a hint what the artist names are that go with the mbid tags. It makes it clear whether "Journey vs. Alexampt & Mononegro" is 1, 2 or 3 artists etc., some artist names have punctuation in them, other times it is just how the album credits were written and there are several individual artist involved. Additionally v17 now has the option of multiple artist separators, so " vs. " could be added as a known separator.
I don't think b) is causing a), but which album are these on so I can check out what Picard is doing?
(2016-06-10, 15:37)DaveBlake Wrote: Cheers black_eagle for testing out Journey when tagged with Picard, good to know. We will have to hear back from Troy which album got separated, maybe it is a different one you don't have?
13:32:44 T:140705563920128 DEBUG: DoScan Scanning dir '/media/sde1/Music/Journey/Arrival/' as not in the database
13:32:44 T:140705563920128 DEBUG: unrecognized ID3 frame detected: TDOR
13:32:44 T:140705563920128 DEBUG: unrecognized ID3 frame detected: TMED
13:32:44 T:140705563920128 DEBUG: unrecognized ID3 frame detected: TSO2
13:32:44 T:140705563920128 DEBUG: unrecognized ID3 frame detected: TSOP
13:32:44 T:140705563920128 DEBUG: unrecognized user text tag detected: TXXX:SCRIPT
13:32:44 T:140705563920128 DEBUG: unrecognized user text tag detected: TXXX:originalyear
13:32:44 T:140705563920128 DEBUG: unrecognized user text tag detected: TXXX:MusicBrainz Album Type
13:32:44 T:140705563920128 DEBUG: unrecognized user text tag detected: TXXX:BARCODE
13:32:44 T:140705563920128 DEBUG: unrecognized user text tag detected: TXXX:CATALOGNUMBER
13:32:44 T:140705563920128 DEBUG: unrecognized user text tag detected: TXXX:MusicBrainz Release Track Id
13:32:44 T:140705563920128 DEBUG: unrecognized user text tag detected: TXXX:MusicBrainz Work Id
13:32:44 T:140705563920128 DEBUG: unrecognized user text tag detected: TXXX:Work
13:32:44 T:140705563920128 DEBUG: unrecognized user text tag detected: TXXX:MusicBrainz Release Group Id
13:32:44 T:140705563920128 DEBUG: unrecognized user text tag detected: TXXX:Writer
13:32:44 T:140705563920128 DEBUG: unrecognized user text tag detected: TXXX:ASIN
13:32:44 T:140705563920128 DEBUG: unrecognized user text tag detected: TXXX:MusicBrainz Album Status
13:32:44 T:140705563920128 DEBUG: unrecognized user text tag detected: TXXX:MusicBrainz Album Release Country
(2016-06-10, 15:46)black_eagle Wrote: There again, according to my logs, Picard is writing tags to my files that Kodi (even with your much appreciated sterling work) doesn't yet understand....Future-proofing I hope !!
(2016-06-10, 15:46)black_eagle Wrote: Nope, don't have that album lol !!
(2016-06-10, 16:25)deveng24 Wrote:(2016-06-10, 15:46)black_eagle Wrote: Nope, don't have that album lol !!
yeah... well i dont think ive ever listened to that album..lol
anyway, tried another test..... added the "various Artist" album to the mix freshly tagged with MB.....
ended up with 3 artist nodes;
Artist Node 3
Steve Auger has all of the journey albums but the one described above that one is in the journey Node
the various artist has the full compilation in it.
also here is my music DB file for this example;
DB file