2019-10-18, 15:19
Do you think DV support will be only for streaming apps , or we can expect it for KODI too with movie files (mkv,ISO,BDMV UHD..)
(2019-10-18, 14:37)noggin Wrote:(2019-10-18, 00:48)ozkhan1 Wrote:(2019-10-17, 23:58)noggin Wrote: It might win on HD Audio bitstreaming, but it will need decent refresh rate switching support in Netflix, Amazon, broadcaster Catch-up/VOD etc. to rival the Apple TV.
Also - leaked image looks to be missing a USB port, so no local storage other than MicroSD - but specs published at the top post say 2 x USB 3?
Always boggled my mind why android tv can’t do it but fire devices can..
Same reason Apple TV can do it. The app authors have written in support for it on their Fire TV and Apple TV apps (it's not Automatic AIUI - but API controlled - and few Fire TV apps support - Netflix and BBC iPlayer didn't last time I checked) but haven't on Android TV - so I guess the issue is more with app authors (though could nVidia do something bespoke like AMLogic used to?)
(2019-10-18, 15:24)Ogreen Wrote:I guess to avoid the problem Roku have had with their Streaming Stick + and system-wide frame rate switching. Roku have disabled it for Netflix (and only Netflix) because of the autoplaying of trailers in Netflix I believe. As you switch between shows and the background trailers auto play, if they are different frame rates, you get a display re-sync and a couple of seconds of flash-bang resync on your display, which is very annoying as you scroll up and down slowly to read synopses. If the refresh rate is API controlled, you can avoid this.(2019-10-18, 14:37)noggin Wrote:(2019-10-18, 00:48)ozkhan1 Wrote: Always boggled my mind why android tv can’t do it but fire devices can..
Same reason Apple TV can do it. The app authors have written in support for it on their Fire TV and Apple TV apps (it's not Automatic AIUI - but API controlled - and few Fire TV apps support - Netflix and BBC iPlayer didn't last time I checked) but haven't on Android TV - so I guess the issue is more with app authors (though could nVidia do something bespoke like AMLogic used to?)
We can have autoframe rate on apps with refresh rate tool on Shield TV, then Why Nvidia can't integrate it on the system itself ?
(2019-10-18, 16:25)noggin Wrote:(2019-10-18, 15:24)Ogreen Wrote:I guess to avoid the problem Roku have had with their Streaming Stick + and system-wide frame rate switching. Roku have disabled it for Netflix (and only Netflix) because of the autoplaying of trailers in Netflix I believe. As you switch between shows and the background trailers auto play, if they are different frame rates, you get a display re-sync and a couple of seconds of flash-bang resync on your display, which is very annoying as you scroll up and down slowly to read synopses. If the refresh rate is API controlled, you can avoid this.(2019-10-18, 14:37)noggin Wrote: Same reason Apple TV can do it. The app authors have written in support for it on their Fire TV and Apple TV apps (it's not Automatic AIUI - but API controlled - and few Fire TV apps support - Netflix and BBC iPlayer didn't last time I checked) but haven't on Android TV - so I guess the issue is more with app authors (though could nVidia do something bespoke like AMLogic used to?)
We can have autoframe rate on apps with refresh rate tool on Shield TV, then Why Nvidia can't integrate it on the system itself ?
(2019-10-18, 16:25)noggin Wrote:(2019-10-18, 15:24)Ogreen Wrote:I guess to avoid the problem Roku have had with their Streaming Stick + and system-wide frame rate switching. Roku have disabled it for Netflix (and only Netflix) because of the autoplaying of trailers in Netflix I believe. As you switch between shows and the background trailers auto play, if they are different frame rates, you get a display re-sync and a couple of seconds of flash-bang resync on your display, which is very annoying as you scroll up and down slowly to read synopses. If the refresh rate is API controlled, you can avoid this.(2019-10-18, 14:37)noggin Wrote: Same reason Apple TV can do it. The app authors have written in support for it on their Fire TV and Apple TV apps (it's not Automatic AIUI - but API controlled - and few Fire TV apps support - Netflix and BBC iPlayer didn't last time I checked) but haven't on Android TV - so I guess the issue is more with app authors (though could nVidia do something bespoke like AMLogic used to?)
We can have autoframe rate on apps with refresh rate tool on Shield TV, then Why Nvidia can't integrate it on the system itself ?
(2019-10-18, 16:25)noggin Wrote:Ah yes that would be really annoying. Maybe only have it switch when you actually push play.(2019-10-18, 15:24)Ogreen Wrote:I guess to avoid the problem Roku have had with their Streaming Stick + and system-wide frame rate switching. Roku have disabled it for Netflix (and only Netflix) because of the autoplaying of trailers in Netflix I believe. As you switch between shows and the background trailers auto play, if they are different frame rates, you get a display re-sync and a couple of seconds of flash-bang resync on your display, which is very annoying as you scroll up and down slowly to read synopses. If the refresh rate is API controlled, you can avoid this.(2019-10-18, 14:37)noggin Wrote: Same reason Apple TV can do it. The app authors have written in support for it on their Fire TV and Apple TV apps (it's not Automatic AIUI - but API controlled - and few Fire TV apps support - Netflix and BBC iPlayer didn't last time I checked) but haven't on Android TV - so I guess the issue is more with app authors (though could nVidia do something bespoke like AMLogic used to?)
We can have autoframe rate on apps with refresh rate tool on Shield TV, then Why Nvidia can't integrate it on the system itself ?
(2019-10-18, 20:08)lightsout Wrote:(2019-10-18, 16:25)noggin Wrote:Ah yes that would be really annoying. Maybe only have it switch when you actually push play.(2019-10-18, 15:24)Ogreen Wrote: We can have autoframe rate on apps with refresh rate tool on Shield TV, then Why Nvidia can't integrate it on the system itself ?I guess to avoid the problem Roku have had with their Streaming Stick + and system-wide frame rate switching. Roku have disabled it for Netflix (and only Netflix) because of the autoplaying of trailers in Netflix I believe. As you switch between shows and the background trailers auto play, if they are different frame rates, you get a display re-sync and a couple of seconds of flash-bang resync on your display, which is very annoying as you scroll up and down slowly to read synopses. If the refresh rate is API controlled, you can avoid this.
(2019-10-18, 23:53)hdmkv Wrote:Not sure mkv ever will. But the mp4's aren't just AC-3. They are doing lossless audio now, just can't have internal subs. Not perfect but progress for sure.(2019-10-18, 15:19)Ogreen Wrote: Do you think DV support will be only for streaming apps , or we can expect it for KODI too with movie files (mkv,ISO,BDMV UHD..)
Until MKV can support DV w/HD audio, then I'm sticking w/my gen2 Shield TV. A mp4 w/just AC3 audio is only half-way there.
(2019-10-19, 21:47)ozkhan1 Wrote: The original shield was ahead of its time. I was one of those who preordered the first one in 2015, and I still have it running strong. I don’t like the upscaling job it does but I am really looking forward to the new one. For most US users, it’s the perfect box.
(2019-10-19, 14:59)Sjors125 Wrote: Christmas season will be fun for mediaplayer lovers. Odroid N2; Minix U22-XJ or Nvidia Shield Pro
(2019-10-20, 00:53)SilverBlade Wrote:(2019-10-19, 14:59)Sjors125 Wrote: Christmas season will be fun for mediaplayer lovers. Odroid N2; Minix U22-XJ or Nvidia Shield Pro
The new Minix players aren't Netflix certified, which would be a complete deal breaker for a lot of people. Me included. If something isn't Netflix certified, it's not worth the plastic casing it's in..