2020-05-16, 15:21
Fire TV remote with volume control pairs fine with N2 and is snappy. Also, if you first pair the remote with a Fire TV unit and have volume up/down & mute working with your AVR, they’ll carry over when you then pair with N2.
(2020-05-16, 13:01)madmax2 Wrote: Also is there any new revision of the N2 or a different competitor that is cheaper?
Quote:Is Kodi performance and playback same on Android OS as it is on CoreELEC of kodi?
or how much slower etc..
(2020-05-16, 18:47)wrxtasy Wrote:(2020-05-16, 13:01)madmax2 Wrote: Also is there any new revision of the N2 or a different competitor that is cheaper?
There are Similar S922X chipset devices like the Ugoos AM6 and the Beelink GT-King but I doubt they are cheaper or have a better Passive thermal heat sink setup vs the ODROID N2.
The other point to make is the Bootloader that the CoreELEC guys provide for the N2 has been modded to fix HDMI CEC bugs and add extra features. All that works out of the box. No extra stuffing around needed.
Quote:Is Kodi performance and playback same on Android OS as it is on CoreELEC of kodi?
or how much slower etc..
CoreELEC Kodi performance is better because the CE OS has been built from the ground up to specifically run 4K HDR Kodi & HD audio, as bug free and fast as possible. Even tricky old stuff Hardware decodes.
The N2’s great 6 Core CPU package can Software decode anything 1080p if needed.
There are all sorts of tweaks under the hood you do not get with a generic Android Kodi release.
Just get a 16GB eMMC and a Plug n Play MINIX A2 lite Wireless remote and you will have one reliable, snappy 4K HDR Kodi setup.
So reliable some would call it “boring” !
W.
(2020-05-17, 00:55)madmax2 Wrote: The main advantage of having android OS with kodi installed is, I can also install many android games and apps from the very large google play store..
this gives the N2 much more versatility and turns my TV into an android TV (media playback, gaming, apps) which is very nice to have and would be much more smarter than many smart TVs currently selling
(2020-05-17, 00:55)madmax2 Wrote: I read that people who bought the eMMC say it is faster but how much faster than regular SD card for boot time times, library updates and anything else?From the Odroid website: N2 specs
(2020-05-17, 03:49)wrxtasy Wrote:So you are saying the nvidia shield can play the same 4k hevc hdr 10bit videos like N2 without any issues?(2020-05-17, 00:55)madmax2 Wrote: The main advantage of having android OS with kodi installed is, I can also install many android games and apps from the very large google play store..
this gives the N2 much more versatility and turns my TV into an android TV (media playback, gaming, apps) which is very nice to have and would be much more smarter than many smart TVs currently selling
Get a Nvidia Shield if you also want a Games machine, snappy Kodi device, with good Firmware support and also accompanying Android TV Apps. Regular Android Tablet Apps have to be sideloaded.
The Shield is the solution of you also want to stream paid for copy protected video using Netflix, Amazon Prime etc
There is No auto Frame Rate Matching, No auto Resolution Switching, No HD Audio, NO deinterlacing and a whole bunch more is missing if you go down the Android Kodi route on the ODROID N2.
What you can do is dual boot Android OS / CoreELEC via a N2 function called Petitboot at boot up (see HardKernel forums for that). You have Android running from an eMMC and CoreELEC on a microSDHC or USB3 stick.
However no idea with Android about games controller support, again see HardKernel forum.
You are in DIY territory with all that.
The Ugoos AM6 has Dual boot Android / CoreELEC Firmware as well that you can DIY flash to internal storage:
https://ugoos.com/beta-dual-boot-firmwar...ies-models
AM6 also has Android games controller remapping functionality baked into its Firmware I believe after seeing some YouTube videos on it.
(2020-05-17, 08:28)HomerJau Wrote:(2020-05-17, 00:55)madmax2 Wrote: I read that people who bought the eMMC say it is faster but how much faster than regular SD card for boot time times, library updates and anything else?From the Odroid website: N2 specs
eMMC storage performance
Sequential read and write speed is over 150MB/s and 125MB/s respectively.
Micro-SD UHS performance
Using properly implemented UHS dynamic voltage scaling, the sequential read and write speed is over 70MB/s and 55MB/s respectively.
(2020-05-18, 00:32)madmax2 Wrote: So you are saying the nvidia shield can play the same 4k hevc hdr 10bit videos like N2 without any issues?
Quote:Why on your other thread "4K HDR10 - State of Play thread" seems to list quite a few issues with the nvidia shield 2019 ..
while N2 does not have any issues listed?
Are these issues something we should be concern about?
Quote:yeah nvidia is currently recommended as the best android TV box right now..Yes due to superior hardware and Nvidia's great Firmware support.
Quote:while the N2 is the best SBC device for android OS right now..No that title belongs to the Ugoos X2 / X3 Cube and their AM6 due to superior Firmware.
Quote:I do like to tinker and test new stuff, so the N2 would be able to do that while the nvidia shield does not..Yes and why people buy these developer boards.
Quote:There is No auto Frame Rate Matching, No auto Resolution Switching, No HD Audio, NO deinterlacing and a whole bunch more is missing if you go down the Android Kodi route on the ODROID N2.
Quote:are these features that important for general 4k hevc hdr 10bit video playback?
Quote:Is there anything spec wise different from this (Ugoos AM6) and n2?
or anything different that you can do on the N2 vs this device?
(2020-05-18, 04:55)wrxtasy Wrote:(2020-05-18, 00:32)madmax2 Wrote: So you are saying the nvidia shield can play the same 4k hevc hdr 10bit videos like N2 without any issues?
There will still be corner case issues with the Shield. The majority of Shield users have no issues.
Personally I try and avoid Android anything due to Firmware support issues - you are dependant on a 3rd party to supply device Firmware and then you are also dependant on Google that seem to introduce problems with each major OS upgrade.
The CoreELEC guys control the entire build for the ODROID N2, the Linux Kernel, the drivers, tweaks to Kodi itself. The whole Kitchen sink basically.
That has noticeable benefits long term.
Quote:Why on your other thread "4K HDR10 - State of Play thread" seems to list quite a few issues with the nvidia shield 2019 ..
while N2 does not have any issues listed?
Are these issues something we should be concern about?
See answer above.
Quote:yeah nvidia is currently recommended as the best android TV box right now..Yes due to superior hardware and Nvidia's great Firmware support.
Quote:while the N2 is the best SBC device for android OS right now..No that title belongs to the Ugoos X2 / X3 Cube and their AM6 due to superior Firmware.
Quote:I do like to tinker and test new stuff, so the N2 would be able to do that while the nvidia shield does not..Yes and why people buy these developer boards.
Quote:There is No auto Frame Rate Matching, No auto Resolution Switching, No HD Audio, NO deinterlacing and a whole bunch more is missing if you go down the Android Kodi route on the ODROID N2.Quote:are these features that important for general 4k hevc hdr 10bit video playback?
Yes if you want smooth 24p video playback, you want Kodi to do auto Frame Rate Matching to auto switch your Display into it's Cinema or Movie mode.
Otherwise you need a display that does 24p Judder Free:
https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/motion/24p
Quote:Is there anything spec wise different from this (Ugoos AM6) and n2?
or anything different that you can do on the N2 vs this device?
Yes it has better Android OS Firmware and an easier Dual Boot Android / CoreELEC setup.
W.
(2020-05-18, 09:33)madmax2 Wrote: I had a look at the Ugoos AM6 and looks like interesting android box with wifi and remote control + Bluetooth
but is there any reason to get the N2 or you can do the same thing on either devices?
(2020-05-18, 09:33)madmax2 Wrote: Are you saying the Ugoos AM6 has better specs, Android OS Firmware and an easier Dual Boot Android / CoreELEC setup or the N2 has?
So they both got the same chipset
Quote:I had a look at the Ugoos AM6 and looks like interesting android box with wifi and remote control + Bluetooth
Quote:but is there any reason to get the N2 or you can do the same thing on either devices?
systemctl stop kodi
mv .kodi/userdata/guisettings.xml .kodi/userdata/guisettings.xml.temp
reboot