XBMC's Piracy Stance: Draft

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dmdsoftware Offline
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Time to close up my cloud services plugins on this forum. Somehow they "piracy" when all they do is provide ability for users to log into their own account on the cloud service and access content in their account.
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(2017-06-11 14:22)dmdsoftware Wrote:  Time to close up my cloud services plugins on this forum. Somehow they "piracy" when all they do is provide ability for users to log into their own account on the cloud service and access content in their account.

If that's all it did was access users own accounts then that would be ok, however it's mentioned on the first post being able to access public url's, and if those public url's contain media content then that could be viewed as publicly publishing content that you don't have permission to do so from the copyright owner. However as you've rightly been pointed out we need to apply rules consistently across all similar add-on's/scripts.
(This post was last modified: 2017-06-11 18:06 by jjd-uk.)
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(2017-06-11 18:05)jjd-uk Wrote:  If that's all it did was access users own accounts then that would be ok, however it's mentioned on the first post being able to access public url's, and if those public url's contain media content then that could be viewed as publicly publishing content that you don't have permission to do so from the copyright owner. However as you've rightly been pointed out we need to apply rules consistently across all similar add-on's/scripts.
Does that mean it's okay or it's not okay? I've re-read the above a few times and am still none the wiser.
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(2017-06-11 18:26)trogggy Wrote:  
(2017-06-11 18:05)jjd-uk Wrote:  If that's all it did was access users own accounts then that would be ok, however it's mentioned on the first post being able to access public url's, and if those public url's contain media content then that could be viewed as publicly publishing content that you don't have permission to do so from the copyright owner. However as you've rightly been pointed out we need to apply rules consistently across all similar add-on's/scripts.
Does that mean it's okay or it's not okay? I've re-read the above a few times and am still none the wiser.

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(2017-06-11 18:26)trogggy Wrote:  
(2017-06-11 18:05)jjd-uk Wrote:  If that's all it did was access users own accounts then that would be ok, however it's mentioned on the first post being able to access public url's, and if those public url's contain media content then that could be viewed as publicly publishing content that you don't have permission to do so from the copyright owner. However as you've rightly been pointed out we need to apply rules consistently across all similar add-on's/scripts.
Does that mean it's okay or it's not okay? I've re-read the above a few times and am still none the wiser.

It means we haven't reached a final decision yet, as it was pointed out that urlresolver acts in a very similar way, and that is obviously deemed as legitimate for the moment since it resides in the official repo, so while urlresolver is allowed then in all likelihood Cloudstream will be as well. We are discussing internally to make sure we are completely consistent in how the rules are applied and that all add-on's get treated equally whether in official repo or not.
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If accessing public url's is now an issue I really don't understand the rules any more. Ho hum.
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It's a slightly grey area.

If you don't own the copyright then you shouldn't publish a open public url for accessing that content, if it's content you own stored on a cloud service which needs your account credentials to access then that is ok.
(This post was last modified: 2017-06-11 19:20 by jjd-uk.)
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There's also a difference between allowing a user to access any publicly available url, and a service that actively identifies media files on file locker sites then presents the user a list of those media files.
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You have a post here on furum with title: The Piracy Box Sellers and Youtube Promoters Are Killing Kodi. Na minha opinião o que vai matar o Kodi é a Microsoft com a inclusão do programa no store do windows 10. Ou será que alguém aqui é inocente em pensar que a maioria dos usuários não usam addons voltados a pirataria, ariscaria dizer que 99% usam ou já usaram algum addon com este fim. Espero que os desenvolvedores do kodi tenham ganho um bom dinheiro do Tio Billl, e que o dinheiro esteja acima do amor pelo programa, porque a partir de agora ele vai inevitavelmente caminhar para o fim. Todos os programas que ameaçam a Microsoft ou as grandes empresas de Hollywood em algum momento terão seu fim, quer seja comprando o programa ou os programadores, ou processado as pessoas envolvidas, usando a justiça financiada por bilionários com sede insaciável de dinheiro. Talvez no final, no jogo de ganhar ou perder, quem acabe ganhado sempre um pouco mais é própria pirataria, porque quando eles transformarem o kodi em um brinquedo inútil, outro igual ou melhor ira aparecer. Evidente que a queda de braço entre bilionários e a pirataria esta longe do fim. Quando aparecer programas que realmente ofereçam uma quantidade gigante de conteúdo com preço justo, talvez, quem sabe talvez, a pirataria comece perder seu espaço.


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Google translate says
Quote:In my opinion what will kill Kodi is Microsoft with the inclusion of the program in the store of windows 10. Or is anyone here who is innocent in thinking that most users do not use addons aimed at piracy, I would argue that 99% use Or have already used some addon for this purpose. I hope the developers of kodi have made good money from Uncle Billl, and that the money is above the love of the program, because from now on it will inevitably move towards the end. All programs that threaten Microsoft or the big Hollywood companies will at some point come to an end, whether it's buying the program or programmers, or prosecuting the people involved, using justice funded by billionaire-insatiable moneymakers. Maybe in the end, in the game of winning or losing, whoever wins a little more is own piracy, because when they turn the kodi into a useless toy, another equal or better will appear. Obviously, the collapse of the arm between billionaires and piracy is far from over. When it comes to programs that actually offer a giant amount of content at a fair price, maybe, maybe, piracy will start to lose its space.

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Good day l can not do a longi in kodi 17.3 everry time l thy the error of log and also in the trak . tv consummation of the error please helpe l can not contribute with all the url's or sites l am of little financial conditions until soon.
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