new Haswell and Bay Trail NUC

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(2013-09-18 18:10)Platypus2 Wrote:  o.O Think things starting to happen now?

A review is up

This review is for the i5 haswell. It looks good, but look at the final price tag. I am sold on the haswell due to the improvement on heating alone not to mention the graphics and new IR. Since I am not tech oriented as many of you, I pose these questions;
For XBMC and netflix, 1080 and possibly 3D, would the i3 work just as well.
What are some ways to reduce the cost of the build and still run xbmc and netflix flawlessly.

NUC I3 Haswell with external 4TB HD, Windows 8.1
Onkyo TX-NR626 Receiver
LG 55" LCD
Cat 6 wired ethernet
Controlled with:
Logitech Harmony 880 remote
Lenovo N5902 remote keyboard/mouse
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The Intel NUC D34010WYK should be more than enough for most XBMC/HTPC usages.
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I agree i3 will be more than enough. Hopefully they launch at the same time though :O, depending on the price difference an i5 a month earlier would be too hard to resist given the wait so far lol
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From the article: "We wouldn’t be surprised if we see the Haswell versions of the NUC hitting the streets sometime in late October 2013". It will definitely be interesting to see. The only thing is if you don't need 3D, a desktop G3220 in a mini-ITX case is a much cheaper solution with more options.
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Full review and test of the new "Wilson Canyon" NUC's here:

http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-nuc-ki...wer_124251
(This post was last modified: 2013-09-19 08:01 by joelbaby.)
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43db while load isnt annoying?
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But in terms of XBMC, when is it going to be at load? 1080p playback should hardly tickle this thing?
(This post was last modified: 2013-09-19 16:59 by Platypus2.)
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39 db at idle Smile
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(2013-09-19 16:55)solamnic Wrote:  43db while load isnt annoying?

No it will not be annoying. 43dB is at load (which it won't be under XBMC). You would barely hear it from 3m away (it would be a very soft whisper, or equivalent to the background noise in a recording studio). You might just hear it if you only use XBMC to watch silent movies in a totally quiet house, in the countryside.

I have an i5 in my laptop, and while using Chrome, Outlook, other programs, and running XBMC at the same time in a window, it uses no more than 15% CPU.
So lets start with the 39dB figure 12.5cm away from the box which is the figure stated in the review.

Calculation
Source for more information on PC noise: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article121-page1.html
From page 2 we learn that volume reduces by 3dB each time you double distance. Applying this concept:

39dB @ 12.5cm, 36dB @ 25cm, 33dB @ 50cm, 30dB @ 1m, 27dB @ 2m, 24dB @ 4m.

At between 2-4m away from the device, the loudness is 24-27dB = background noise in a recording studio or a very soft whisper.

Conclusion
The new NUC is not noisy, the airflow from the fan does not affect viewing pleasure, and this completely matches the experience of many others on this forum who use Celeron based devices with a fan who state it is quiet. There is no noise problem.

Edit for Solamnic - in another thread you say that the Scythe Big Shuriken 2 is totally silent. This NUC is the same loudness as one of these fans running at full speed (30dB @ 1m). Source: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1270-page6.html
(This post was last modified: 2013-09-21 15:31 by joelbaby.)
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I could barely hear my Celeron NUC even when next to it. Nor heard it ramp up speed either!?!?!

Modded MK1 NUC - CLICK ----- NUC Wiki - CLICK

Bay Trail NUC FTW!

I've donated, have you?

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(2013-09-18 23:41)Dougie Fresh Wrote:  The Intel NUC D34010WYK should be more than enough for most XBMC/HTPC usages.

What about future 4K material? Would we need the i5 for that?
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Quote:What about future 4K material
Yes it will play 4K @ 60Hz via the Display Port connector.
With HDMI 1.4a you can do 4K @ 30Hz.
If you want 4K @ 60Hz via HDMI, then it may be better to wait for devices that have HDMI 2.0, which is very new.

Specs from Intel here: http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/pub...-brief.pdf
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(2013-09-13 14:24)nabberuk Wrote:  What are peoples guess on price?

i3 D34010WYK $290
i5 D54250WUK $369

Source: http://www.compsource.com/searches/ezsea...11&cat1=99

Celeron DN2810FYK NUC is the exciting one for me as an HTPC ... $139 and space for 2.5" drives.
The i5 I would get as a replacement to my desktop computer. It would pay for itself in just 1-2 years based on electricity savings.
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(2013-09-19 18:11)joelbaby Wrote:  
(2013-09-19 16:55)solamnic Wrote:  43db while load isnt annoying?

No it will not be annoying. 43dB is at load (which it won't be under XBMC). You would barely hear it from 3m away (it would be a very soft whisper, or equivalent to the background noise in a recording studio). You might just hear it if you only use XBMC to watch silent movies in a totally quiet house, in the countryside.

I have an i5 in my laptop, and while using Chrome, Outlook, other programs, and running XBMC at the same time in a window, it uses no more than 15% CPU.
So lets start with the 39dB figure 12.5cm away from the box which is the figure stated in the review.

Calculation
Source for more information on PC noise: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article121-page1.html
From page 2 we learn that volume reduces by 3dB each time you double distance. Applying this concept:

39dB @ 12.5cm, 36dB @ 25cm, 33dB @ 50cm, 30dB @ 1m, 27dB @ 2m, 24dB @ 4m.

At between 2-4m away from the device, the loudness is 24-27dB = background noise in a recording studio or a very soft whisper.

Conclusion
The new NUC is not noisy, the airflow from the fan does not affect viewing pleasure, and this completely matches the experience of many others on this forum who use Celeron based devices with a fan who state it is quiet. There is no noise problem.

Edit for Solamnic - in another thread you say that the Scythe Big Shuriken 2 is totally silent. This NUC is the same loudness as one of these fans running at full speed (30dB @ 1m). Source: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1270-page6.html.

Thank you for the extensive info Smile

Btw in the new isnt it possible to add a sata drive ? ( besides the msata ssd) ...
I m thinking of using it as downloader also...
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Yes but not with the standard factory case. Three will be aftermarket cases that will have he room fr 2.5" drives to run of the SATA port.

Intel are releasing a model with a larger case as well.

Modded MK1 NUC - CLICK ----- NUC Wiki - CLICK

Bay Trail NUC FTW!

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