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I am using Gotham beta 1 like many but I am wondering if I should download nightlies to get bug fixes or just stick with beta releases. I thought Gotham had an auto update feature anyways unless that is saved for the final version. Beta 1 has been pretty solid, the only bug I've seen is if I alt tab to Windows I can't return to XBMC. Do those of you with enough guts to use the nightlies find them to run better or do they often break things? I know there's a feature freeze so I won't see anything new. In fact, I'd bet only 1 or 2 more betas are needed before release. I guess my question is do most stick with beta 1 or use nightlies?
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I've been using the nightly builds for quite some time and I find the recent few to be the most stable. I'll never understand the settings ordering as a lot of things seem to be in the wrong areas (especially for a new users) but it's not my place to really say anything about that so ignore that comment.
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It's exactly your place as a new user to point out where you think things could be improved, those of us who've used xbmc for many years can become blinkered without realising it, so it takes a new perspective to point out where something doesn't make sense. As long as when you're posting any feedback it's done in a polite manner and is respectful of the dev's work then we welcome anything users have to say.
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Where can I make this suggestion? Would a PM be OK, initially?
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Would probably be best if you made a new thread posted in this General Help section so everyone can see it, might encourage others to give feedback as well.
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2014-03-13, 14:36
(This post was last modified: 2014-03-13, 14:37 by darkreign.)
I get the feeling i'm being immensely stupid however could someone tell me where the Gotham nightly PPA is? I keep reading that we should carry on using the Gotham nightly builds but ever since the beta was released ppa:team-xbmc/xbmc-nightly is 14.0-Alpha1.
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2014-03-13, 14:42
(This post was last modified: 2014-03-13, 14:43 by un1versal.)
In Linux is
unstable ppa, -->> has gotham beta1 + fixes so its v13beta#
nightly ppa --->> Master branch is v14alpha1
though at this very moment - I dont think there's much difference in master vs gotham code except for beta/alpha tags but I cant be sure exactly.
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Ubuntu ppa builds are up to whatever they want to use. If they say 14 alpha1 then they're taken from master. There is currently only 1 commit in Gotham that isn't in master (an ffmpeg backport).
Builds generated by jenkins (our buildbot) available from mirrors.xbmc.org have nightlies coming from the Gotham branch with v13 B1 currently. B2 out shortly.
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Unless I'm mistaken (and I could very well be), in the past a branch was only made after the final release was made, so people are used to always building master.
This time around the branch was made at v13 Beta 1 and master's version number was changed to v14 Alpha 1.
This really isn't a big deal, and for the most part the two branches will actually be the same, but at the same time it causes confusion (for both users and builders) because people assume that we're following last year's pattern, and there really is no notice or anything explaining which branch to use. The fact that our own Team XBMC PPAs are building nightlies with master and not Gotham is an indication of how easy such confusion can be.
What's done is done, so just spread the word that until v13.0 is released builders/users should use the Gotham branch, but if you're using a nightly still from Master, don't sweat it too much, it will probably still work just the same way (more or less).