Kodi Media Player Options with 3D MVC & HD Audio

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Thanks both. I only have an old Dolby 5.1 set up so the hd audio is not an issue. I love my pi3, and as an all rounder it can't be beaten, but I've always had this feeling that the 3d picture isn't quite as vibrant as it might be and that some pop outs lack crispness. I might well give it a go!
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will there be a new version with kodi 17.3?
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(2017-05-30 09:59)Bennie1358 Wrote:  will there be a new version with kodi 17.3?

This is why I think this would have worked better as an addon.
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(2017-05-30 09:59)Bennie1358 Wrote:  will there be a new version with kodi 17.3?
A new version of what?

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(2017-06-05 15:33)T800 Wrote:  
(2017-05-30 09:59)Bennie1358 Wrote:  will there be a new version with kodi 17.3?

This is why I think this would have worked better as an addon.
"this" meaning?

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(2017-06-06 06:47)nickr Wrote:  
(2017-06-05 15:33)T800 Wrote:  
(2017-05-30 09:59)Bennie1358 Wrote:  will there be a new version with kodi 17.3?

This is why I think this would have worked better as an addon.
"this" meaning?

Sorry, wrong thread.
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So what are the options for a box that can do 4K, HDR, 3D Frame Packing, HD audio passthrough, HDMI CEC and 23.976 Hz?
Apollo Lake and Kaby Lake both fail some of the above.

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(2017-07-11 21:06)Korrigan Wrote:  So what are the options for a box that can do 4K, HDR, 3D Frame Packing, HD audio passthrough, HDMI CEC and 23.976 Hz?
Apollo Lake and Kaby Lake both fail some of the above.

Theoretically Zidoo X8/X9S. I have an X8 which I pretty much use only for 3D MVC - it works fine for that. It outputs 23.976 correctly. From reading the forums, some people have problems with 4K and certain audio output. It only works with their custom Kodi build. Generally, the software is glitchy. Firmware updates are fairly frequent, but seem to cause as many new problems as they fix old ones. I wouldn't recommend as a "does everything" box.

A good option in the near future may be the Vero 4K which I know does everything else right... and 3D MVC support has been promised soon:

https://discourse.osmc.tv/t/playback-of-...-iso/37125

I've already ordered one on Sam's word & reputation.
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(2017-07-11 21:06)Korrigan Wrote:  So what are the options for a box that can do 4K, HDR, 3D Frame Packing, HD audio passthrough, HDMI CEC and 23.976 Hz?
Apollo Lake and Kaby Lake both fail some of the above.

None!!!!!

You need to have multiple boxes to accomplish this.

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(2017-07-11 21:06)Korrigan Wrote:  So what are the options for a box that can do 4K, HDR, 3D Frame Packing, HD audio passthrough, HDMI CEC and 23.976 Hz?
Apollo Lake and Kaby Lake both fail some of the above.

The ONLY thing that 'Does it all' is a Widows 10 computer of any type with an Nvidia GTX 960 graphics card or better as long as it hardware decodes, especially HEVC.
Kodi internal media player is not 3D frame packed or HDR capable. The custom Kodi MVC build for 3D frame packed is 1.3 HDMI port only and 4k requires HDMI 2.0. A different player is required and easily and seamlessly integrated into the Kodi GUI. PowerDVD and MPC-BE with madVR both handle 3D frame packed and HDR perfectly be it HDR to SDR and/or passthrough at 8bit or 10bit RGB full or YCbCr from a single HDMI 2.0 port. The same is not true for Intel Graphics or AMD graphics. Iso, mkv, mp4, bdmv, whatever you got.

PowerDVD allows full menus which introduce Cinavia protection overcome using RedFox. MPC-BE with madVR only allows main movie playback but does not introduce Cinavia.

Understand, once hardware and software is setup, you never have to adjust anything again. No fumbling with HDMI cables based on what you're watching. No O/S settings to turn on or off. No GPU settings to change according to content. No settings to flip flop in Kodi. Etc. Simply navigate the Kodi library, press enter on a title and it plays with no intervention. You can however select your player of choice manually within Kodi if you'd like. There are also many options of how you would like your defaults to work based on your own unique preferences. It's nice to have choices.

HD audio including DTS:X and Atmos as well as every other simply work and display on your AVR as they should. Matching frame rates is a breeze with no skipped, dropped or missed frames be it 23.976, 29.97, 59.94 (24, 30, 60 Hz) etc.

HDMI CEC I can't comment on. I use a Harmony remote programmed to turn the HTPC and related components On and Off in sequence based on the source inputs.

Also makes for a nice server to similar HTPC's. Most streaming apps on your display or your streaming box work just as well from Windows and/or plug-ins within Kodi.
Most of all, all media needs are in one box in one place, easily updateable and/or repaired economically and never ends up in the landfill. Mine is originally circa 2008. Btw, you can also use the same box for ALL your other computing and internet desires.
Expect a resurgence in the HTPC market based on shortcomings of the streaming box fad or you can keep adding collections of them and fumble around constantly.
There's probably a couple worthless bells and whistles a streaming box offers exclusively. Personally, I'm only interested in the meat and potatoes, not the sauce.

Afaik, there is NOTHING else out there that can make the same claims. N O T H I N G.

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Just the same as the HTPC market surged after H264 and HD became requirements for serious media watchers. Eventually cheap intel and arm chipsets got H264 support and we went from HTPCs with nVidia cards to smaller, lower power devices.

The same cycle will happen again.

Plus ca change, plus le meme chose.

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@brazen1: fully agree. Kodi on PC rules and keeps on running for long time (also after version upgrades).


Except for upgradability:

I used to run kodi and all other stuff (nas, home automation etc) on one box (kodibuntu), but found that upgrading kodi meant reinstall & reconfigure of everything.

Plus background tasks (ie backup services or simply serving files) could cause some video stuttering.

I have now moved all 'server' stuff to a nas and all experience stuff (home automation etc) to a Rpi.

This gives me now best of all worldWink

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Right I'll grok the maths and code that up before morning...

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(2017-07-11 23:35)brazen1 Wrote:  
(2017-07-11 21:06)Korrigan Wrote:  So what are the options for a box that can do 4K, HDR, 3D Frame Packing, HD audio passthrough, HDMI CEC and 23.976 Hz?
Apollo Lake and Kaby Lake both fail some of the above.

The ONLY thing that 'Does it all' is a Widows 10 computer of any type with an Nvidia GTX 960 graphics card or better as long as it hardware decodes, especially HEVC.
Kodi internal media player is not 3D frame packed or HDR capable. The custom Kodi MVC build for 3D frame packed is 1.3 HDMI port only and 4k requires HDMI 2.0. A different player is required and easily and seamlessly integrated into the Kodi GUI. PowerDVD and MPC-BE with madVR both handle 3D frame packed and HDR perfectly be it HDR to SDR and/or passthrough at 8bit or 10bit RGB full or YCbCr from a single HDMI 2.0 port.

So what is the difference then between this Intel / NVIDIA / PowerDVD / MPC-BE / madVR approach to what the HiMedia Q5/10 and Zidoo X9S devices are already using.
Kodi seems only to be a GUI frontend for external media player software on all of them ?
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