2015-04-07, 00:21
I thought broadwell models i3 and above offered better 4k support whole haswell i3 and above was more limited? Or is that incorrect?
(2015-04-07, 07:19)agender Wrote: I take most newer tvs have HDMI 2.0 support?
(2015-04-07, 14:49)Topken Wrote: HDMI 2.0 is just half the equation since you also need HDCP 2.2 for copyrighted materials going forward.
(2015-04-07, 15:42)noggin Wrote: One major reason for HDMI 2.0 is to allow 2160p output from Kodi at 23.976Hz-60.00Hz so that you can keep with 2160p output resolution irrespective of whether you are playing 480/59.94i, 576/50i, 720/50p, 720/59.94p, 1080/50i, 1080/23.97p or 2160/23.976p etc. content....
(2015-04-07, 15:42)noggin Wrote:(2015-04-07, 14:49)Topken Wrote: HDMI 2.0 is just half the equation since you also need HDCP 2.2 for copyrighted materials going forward.
Are there any mainstream UHD sets on sale without HDCP 2.2 on their HDMI 2.0 inputs? PCs will require HDCP 2.2 for UHD streaming of Netflix, Amazon etc. I guess - though may not for broadcast TV.
One major reason for HDMI 2.0 is to allow 2160p output from Kodi at 23.976Hz-60.00Hz so that you can keep with 2160p output resolution irrespective of whether you are playing 480/59.94i, 576/50i, 720/50p, 720/59.94p, 1080/50i, 1080/23.97p or 2160/23.976p etc. content....
(2015-04-08, 00:53)Topken Wrote:(2015-04-07, 15:42)noggin Wrote:(2015-04-07, 14:49)Topken Wrote: HDMI 2.0 is just half the equation since you also need HDCP 2.2 for copyrighted materials going forward.
Are there any mainstream UHD sets on sale without HDCP 2.2 on their HDMI 2.0 inputs? PCs will require HDCP 2.2 for UHD streaming of Netflix, Amazon etc. I guess - though may not for broadcast TV.
One major reason for HDMI 2.0 is to allow 2160p output from Kodi at 23.976Hz-60.00Hz so that you can keep with 2160p output resolution irrespective of whether you are playing 480/59.94i, 576/50i, 720/50p, 720/59.94p, 1080/50i, 1080/23.97p or 2160/23.976p etc. content....
Since we are in a transitonal period right now I would not be surprised if there were HDMI 2.0 devices out without HDCP 2.2. AVRS come to mind right now. I would have to look since its been a while but last I knew UHDTVs were still coming with only HDMI 1.4 but that may have changed recently since as I said its been a while since I looked at them.
(2015-04-08, 01:26)noggin Wrote:(2015-04-08, 00:53)Topken Wrote:(2015-04-07, 15:42)noggin Wrote: Are there any mainstream UHD sets on sale without HDCP 2.2 on their HDMI 2.0 inputs? PCs will require HDCP 2.2 for UHD streaming of Netflix, Amazon etc. I guess - though may not for broadcast TV.
One major reason for HDMI 2.0 is to allow 2160p output from Kodi at 23.976Hz-60.00Hz so that you can keep with 2160p output resolution irrespective of whether you are playing 480/59.94i, 576/50i, 720/50p, 720/59.94p, 1080/50i, 1080/23.97p or 2160/23.976p etc. content....
Since we are in a transitonal period right now I would not be surprised if there were HDMI 2.0 devices out without HDCP 2.2. AVRS come to mind right now. I would have to look since its been a while but last I knew UHDTVs were still coming with only HDMI 1.4 but that may have changed recently since as I said its been a while since I looked at them.
First gen UHDTVs were around with HDMI 1.4 inputs (mainly because HDMI 2.0 hadn't been ratified) though some of them mitigated that by having 2160/60p compatible Displayport inputs.
Sony (and a few others) got 4:2:0 2160/60p added to the HDMI 2.0 spec, which allows 2160/60p to be carried over HDMI 1.4 bandwith links (which is how some Sony sets got HDMI 2.0 functionality added by firmware).
Similarly nVidia were able to add 2160/60p support to their HDMI 1.4 video cards using a similar trick. Not brilliant for monitor use but probably not a bad compromise for video - as most consumer content is likely to be 4:2:0 subsampled anyway.
(2015-04-08, 03:28)Topken Wrote: Yeah that was my understanding and these first gen devices won't be supporting HDCP 2.2 for copy protected content. Wish is where my issue lays. I am thinking long term here and this just reminds me of the first HDMI based devices and all these handshake issues we still have with certain products. I was also asking if the current crop of UHDTV have proper HDMI 2.0 ports or are they still using HDMI 1.4?