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Those are settings for nVidia and how I prefer to setup.  Ha!  Just noticed his/her sig is a wee bit similar to mine.  I do things differently but perhaps he/she needs or thinks this is best for his/her environment.
HOW TO - Kodi 2D - 3D - UHD (4k) HDR Guide Internal & External Players
W10 1803/MPC-BE PDVD18 DVDFab3 KODI/960 4GB/RGB 4:4:4/8bit Desktop mode=60Hz /10/12bit Video mode=Matched Refresh rates/65JS8500 UHD HDR 3D
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(7 hours ago)brazen1 Wrote: Either you have a typo or some wrong settings.  358.28 is never going to work, however, 385.28 works best.  Every driver after 385.28 introduced audio problems and many others of one sort or another.  That's why I use it to this day problem free.  That's why I asked.  May improve your problems or at least ensure you are starting off on the right foot to diagnosing them.
 @brazen1 ,

Are you using 385.28 with Kodi Leia also?  What version of Windows 10 do you have now in your primary HTPC? Thanks for your help.

Regards,

Bart
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(6 hours ago)brazen1 Wrote: Those are settings for nVidia and how I prefer to setup.  Ha!  Just noticed his/her sig is a wee bit similar to mine.  I do things differently but perhaps he/she needs or thinks this is best for his/her environment.
 I am 'he"... :-) My name is Alex and I am so pleased to meet you!
Sorry for stealing your format of signature, but I wanted you to see my setup in case of replying or asking about it.
I know your directions are for Full RGB 60Hz desktop setup, but first there is no reason for me, because this is a HTPC only PC and I don't want it to change resolutions every time I start and stop a movie as all my movies and series are in 23.976Hz. Second, my setup PC->Pioneer->LG TV is struggling when changing resolutions. It takes more than 7, 8 or maybe 10 seconds to change format (HDR<->SDR or 2D<->3D) or refresh rates.
W10 1803/MPC-BE PDVD18 KODI/1050Ti 4GB/YCbCr 4:2:2/10bit Desktop mode=23Hz Video mode=Matched Refresh rates/LG OLED65E6V UHD HDR 3D/ Pioneer SC-LX901
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(6 hours ago)zxaura1 Wrote:
(6 hours ago)brazen1 Wrote: Those are settings for nVidia and how I prefer to setup.  Ha!  Just noticed his/her sig is a wee bit similar to mine.  I do things differently but perhaps he/she needs or thinks this is best for his/her environment.
 I am 'he"... :-) My name is Alex and I am so pleased to meet you!
Sorry for stealing your format of signature, but I wanted you to see my setup in case of replying or asking about it.
I know your directions are for Full RGB 60Hz desktop setup, but first there is no reason for me, because this is a HTPC only PC and I don't want it to change resolutions every time I start and stop a movie as all my movies and series are in 23.976Hz. Second, my setup PC->Pioneer->LG TV is struggling when changing resolutions. It takes more than 7, 8 or maybe 10 seconds to change format (HDR<->SDR or 2D<->3D) or refresh rates. 

@brazen1 :I'm still not clear on what "RGB 4:4:4" means. "YCbCr 4:2:2" is a little more apparent to me as that is the name of a setting I can select under "Output Color Format" in the Nvidia Control Panel. But I don't see one called "RGB 4:4:4". I do see an "RGB". 

These are my current settings. Do these sound about right or do I have something wrong here?

Image

@zxaura1 :
I too have an HTPC only PC - Is there a reason you have selected "YCbCr 4:2:2" over "RGB"?

Thanks!
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(6 hours ago)luci5r Wrote:
(6 hours ago)zxaura1 Wrote:
(6 hours ago)brazen1 Wrote: Those are settings for nVidia and how I prefer to setup.  Ha!  Just noticed his/her sig is a wee bit similar to mine.  I do things differently but perhaps he/she needs or thinks this is best for his/her environment.
 I am 'he"... :-) My name is Alex and I am so pleased to meet you!
Sorry for stealing your format of signature, but I wanted you to see my setup in case of replying or asking about it.
I know your directions are for Full RGB 60Hz desktop setup, but first there is no reason for me, because this is a HTPC only PC and I don't want it to change resolutions every time I start and stop a movie as all my movies and series are in 23.976Hz. Second, my setup PC->Pioneer->LG TV is struggling when changing resolutions. It takes more than 7, 8 or maybe 10 seconds to change format (HDR<->SDR or 2D<->3D) or refresh rates.  

@brazen1 :I'm still not clear on what "RGB 4:4:4" means. "YCbCr 4:2:2" is a little more apparent to me as that is the name of a setting I can select under "Output Color Format" in the Nvidia Control Panel. But I don't see one called "RGB 4:4:4". I do see an "RGB". 

These are my current settings. Do these sound about right or do I have something wrong here?

Image

@zxaura1 :
I too have an HTPC only PC - Is there a reason you have selected "YCbCr 4:2:2" over "RGB"?

Thanks! 
No, not a particular reason. Maybe just because I wanted 10bit (because most of my movies are in HDR) and only in YCbCr 4.2.2 I found it. But there is a reason for "limited' output dynamic range and this is because in the receiver was connected an Nvidia Shield TV in which I didn't found a way to switch to RGB Full mode. Also there is an Xbox One S in which RGB Full doesn't work in my setup. So it is impossible for me to go to TV settings every time and change the mode from low to high (full to limited), depending on the source my receiver outputs.
Also in my eyes, I didn't notice any difference in PQ between RGB Full and YCbCr limited...
W10 1803/MPC-BE PDVD18 KODI/1050Ti 4GB/YCbCr 4:2:2/10bit Desktop mode=23Hz Video mode=Matched Refresh rates/LG OLED65E6V UHD HDR 3D/ Pioneer SC-LX901
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(6 hours ago)bsoriano Wrote:
(7 hours ago)brazen1 Wrote: Either you have a typo or some wrong settings.  358.28 is never going to work, however, 385.28 works best.  Every driver after 385.28 introduced audio problems and many others of one sort or another.  That's why I use it to this day problem free.  That's why I asked.  May improve your problems or at least ensure you are starting off on the right foot to diagnosing them.
 @brazen1 ,

Are you using 385.28 with Kodi Leia also?  What version of Windows 10 do you have now in your primary HTPC? Thanks for your help.

Regards,

Bart 
 Yes, 385.28.  Never tried a newer driver with v.18 but suppose I should.  Will introduce problems outside of KODI though so...  W10 v.1803 as in my sig.
HOW TO - Kodi 2D - 3D - UHD (4k) HDR Guide Internal & External Players
W10 1803/MPC-BE PDVD18 DVDFab3 KODI/960 4GB/RGB 4:4:4/8bit Desktop mode=60Hz /10/12bit Video mode=Matched Refresh rates/65JS8500 UHD HDR 3D
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(6 hours ago)zxaura1 Wrote:
(6 hours ago)brazen1 Wrote: Those are settings for nVidia and how I prefer to setup.  Ha!  Just noticed his/her sig is a wee bit similar to mine.  I do things differently but perhaps he/she needs or thinks this is best for his/her environment.
 I am 'he"... :-) My name is Alex and I am so pleased to meet you!
Sorry for stealing your format of signature, but I wanted you to see my setup in case of replying or asking about it.
I know your directions are for Full RGB 60Hz desktop setup, but first there is no reason for me, because this is a HTPC only PC and I don't want it to change resolutions every time I start and stop a movie as all my movies and series are in 23.976Hz. Second, my setup PC->Pioneer->LG TV is struggling when changing resolutions. It takes more than 7, 8 or maybe 10 seconds to change format (HDR<->SDR or 2D<->3D) or refresh rates. 
 Howdy "he" err, Alex.  Nothing wrong with what you're doing especially if your OLED is struggling and you're not using HTPC as all in one.  You will introduce lag in KODI GUI though but if it doesn't bother you...
HOW TO - Kodi 2D - 3D - UHD (4k) HDR Guide Internal & External Players
W10 1803/MPC-BE PDVD18 DVDFab3 KODI/960 4GB/RGB 4:4:4/8bit Desktop mode=60Hz /10/12bit Video mode=Matched Refresh rates/65JS8500 UHD HDR 3D
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(5 hours ago)brazen1 Wrote:
(6 hours ago)zxaura1 Wrote:
(6 hours ago)brazen1 Wrote: Those are settings for nVidia and how I prefer to setup.  Ha!  Just noticed his/her sig is a wee bit similar to mine.  I do things differently but perhaps he/she needs or thinks this is best for his/her environment.
 I am 'he"... :-) My name is Alex and I am so pleased to meet you!
Sorry for stealing your format of signature, but I wanted you to see my setup in case of replying or asking about it.
I know your directions are for Full RGB 60Hz desktop setup, but first there is no reason for me, because this is a HTPC only PC and I don't want it to change resolutions every time I start and stop a movie as all my movies and series are in 23.976Hz. Second, my setup PC->Pioneer->LG TV is struggling when changing resolutions. It takes more than 7, 8 or maybe 10 seconds to change format (HDR<->SDR or 2D<->3D) or refresh rates. 
 Howdy "he" err, Alex.  Nothing wrong with what you're doing especially if your OLED is struggling and you're not using HTPC as all in one.  You will introduce lag in KODI GUI though but if it doesn't bother you...

Now with the new card (1050ti) and the latest drivers things are much much better. Don’t know if it is the combination or one of them. I really didn’t noticed any difference in lag or anything else between 60Hz and 23Hz in KODI GUI. But maybe that’s my eyes or the TV.
W10 1803/MPC-BE PDVD18 KODI/1050Ti 4GB/YCbCr 4:2:2/10bit Desktop mode=23Hz Video mode=Matched Refresh rates/LG OLED65E6V UHD HDR 3D/ Pioneer SC-LX901
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(6 hours ago)luci5r Wrote:
(6 hours ago)zxaura1 Wrote:
(6 hours ago)brazen1 Wrote: Those are settings for nVidia and how I prefer to setup.  Ha!  Just noticed his/her sig is a wee bit similar to mine.  I do things differently but perhaps he/she needs or thinks this is best for his/her environment.
 I am 'he"... :-) My name is Alex and I am so pleased to meet you!
Sorry for stealing your format of signature, but I wanted you to see my setup in case of replying or asking about it.
I know your directions are for Full RGB 60Hz desktop setup, but first there is no reason for me, because this is a HTPC only PC and I don't want it to change resolutions every time I start and stop a movie as all my movies and series are in 23.976Hz. Second, my setup PC->Pioneer->LG TV is struggling when changing resolutions. It takes more than 7, 8 or maybe 10 seconds to change format (HDR<->SDR or 2D<->3D) or refresh rates.  

@brazen1 :I'm still not clear on what "RGB 4:4:4" means. "YCbCr 4:2:2" is a little more apparent to me as that is the name of a setting I can select under "Output Color Format" in the Nvidia Control Panel. But I don't see one called "RGB 4:4:4". I do see an "RGB". 

These are my current settings. Do these sound about right or do I have something wrong here?

Image

@zxaura1 :
I too have an HTPC only PC - Is there a reason you have selected "YCbCr 4:2:2" over "RGB"?

Thanks! 
 You don't see it because 4:4:4 is "Full" vs 4:2:2 which is "Limited aka 0-255 vs 16-235.  All devices output a dynamic range.  Some you can choose the range, some you can't.  All my hardware offers a choice so I set everything to 4:4:4.  For those you can't and you are limited to only what is offered, a combination is used to achieve the final range.  Even software offers the choice including KODI.  Your settings are fine assuming the rest of your hardware and software are harmonious with those GPU settings.  A quick way to know is if your black bars are BLACK and not grey.  And I mean BLACK.  If they are grey, something in your chain is off or you need to calibrate.
HOW TO - Kodi 2D - 3D - UHD (4k) HDR Guide Internal & External Players
W10 1803/MPC-BE PDVD18 DVDFab3 KODI/960 4GB/RGB 4:4:4/8bit Desktop mode=60Hz /10/12bit Video mode=Matched Refresh rates/65JS8500 UHD HDR 3D
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(5 hours ago)zxaura1 Wrote:
(5 hours ago)brazen1 Wrote:
(6 hours ago)zxaura1 Wrote:  I am 'he"... :-) My name is Alex and I am so pleased to meet you!
Sorry for stealing your format of signature, but I wanted you to see my setup in case of replying or asking about it.
I know your directions are for Full RGB 60Hz desktop setup, but first there is no reason for me, because this is a HTPC only PC and I don't want it to change resolutions every time I start and stop a movie as all my movies and series are in 23.976Hz. Second, my setup PC->Pioneer->LG TV is struggling when changing resolutions. It takes more than 7, 8 or maybe 10 seconds to change format (HDR<->SDR or 2D<->3D) or refresh rates. 
 Howdy "he" err, Alex.  Nothing wrong with what you're doing especially if your OLED is struggling and you're not using HTPC as all in one.  You will introduce lag in KODI GUI though but if it doesn't bother you... 

Now with the new card (1050ti) and the latest drivers things are much much better. Don’t know if it is the combination or one of them. I really didn’t noticed any difference in lag or anything else between 60Hz and 23Hz in KODI GUI. But maybe that’s my eyes or the TV. 
 Lag.  Sluggish GUI when navigating like from title to title you will notice it's just not snappy.  GUI prefers 60Hz but doesn't mean it won't work.
HOW TO - Kodi 2D - 3D - UHD (4k) HDR Guide Internal & External Players
W10 1803/MPC-BE PDVD18 DVDFab3 KODI/960 4GB/RGB 4:4:4/8bit Desktop mode=60Hz /10/12bit Video mode=Matched Refresh rates/65JS8500 UHD HDR 3D
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(5 hours ago)brazen1 Wrote:
(5 hours ago)zxaura1 Wrote:
(5 hours ago)brazen1 Wrote:  Howdy "he" err, Alex.  Nothing wrong with what you're doing especially if your OLED is struggling and you're not using HTPC as all in one.  You will introduce lag in KODI GUI though but if it doesn't bother you... 

Now with the new card (1050ti) and the latest drivers things are much much better. Don’t know if it is the combination or one of them. I really didn’t noticed any difference in lag or anything else between 60Hz and 23Hz in KODI GUI. But maybe that’s my eyes or the TV. 
 Lag.  Sluggish GUI when navigating like from title to title you will notice it's just not snappy.  GUI prefers 60Hz but doesn't mean it won't work.

Yes, I understood.
Sorry for the quality but I took a small video using GUI in my 23Hz setup:

https://youtu.be/-q1YZ9m9htc

I don’t know if you can understand from this video, but I don’t feel any lag or I got used to it...
W10 1803/MPC-BE PDVD18 KODI/1050Ti 4GB/YCbCr 4:2:2/10bit Desktop mode=23Hz Video mode=Matched Refresh rates/LG OLED65E6V UHD HDR 3D/ Pioneer SC-LX901
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