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(2015-10-18, 17:39)popcornmix Wrote: I've seen a few issues with Onkyo and banding or stutter caused by its video processing. Even in "through" mode, it still replaces the video signal with its own version (so it can overlay OSD info) and there are reports that this causes issues. Some Onkyo models have a secret mode which disables any processing (including OSD) which has fixed issues for some. See:
https://www.avforums.com/threads/onkyo-v...g.1957818/

BTW, I have an Onkyo TX-NR609 and that doesn't have the 3D switching issue.
Can't believe the newer, pricier TX-NR636 does! Just tried via my old Pioneer VSX-822 and no problems.

I'll try the link you posted, thanks.

Update: Onkyo 636 has no such hidden setting by pressing 'DVR' and 'Display' at the same time. Tried every input button and 'Display' just in case. In 636's setting, turned off 'Display OSD' setting, but the blanking out still happens. May just consider another AVR after some research (proper video through, proper HDMI, price, etc.). Or, doing something like this, similar to @BubbleBobble.

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That is a complicated setup with a flaw. If you would try this with (for example) a PS4 you would get 2.0 audio only and no 3D support.

A splitter will gather info of both your projector & AVR and gives feedback to your source, which is a selection of the lesser of both feature sets.

You're lucky team Kodi on the Pi2 let's you state your resolution, number of audio channels and 3D Cool

I have this:
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Dr Hdmi has the EDID sinked in of my AVR + Projector so the source gets the right info of my setup (full HD, 3D, 7.1 audio, Dolby TrueHD & DTS-HD Master)

Another benefit of this setup is that you don't need to have your AVR on if you just want to watch some TV by its internal speakers. (My AVR has a passthrough for audio when in standby but still runs hot.... another design flaw Angry)

I only need to set the port of my switch if i want to watch a source (Projector, TV and AVR are only using 1 input).
Thanks, will consider. Adding 3 HDMI thingies Wink in between media players and display seems like you might introduce other issues (like snow, signal loss, etc.). Would be a potential issue in my proposed chart too. No expert in this though. Also considering a different AVR, possibly Denon AVR-X2100W. Don't need ATMOS or DTS:X for a while.
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Hahaha i feel your pain. Remember I also have that "expensive" Epson projector which should never blank out considering that pricetag.

I had rare problems with my old 400 euro Yamaha AVR which had dual hdmi output. Then I upgraded for sound and paid 1200 euro for my Anthem... I certainly didn't expect to enter hdmi-handshake hell Sad

Also you don't add 3 hdmi thingies Smile You already mentioned using a switch and a splitter. I just recommend to add the dr.hdmi.

None of those 3 devices do any processing (no changes or adding anything) to the signal, unlike an AVR (like @popcornmix said earlier). The signal entering your projector will be identical to your source sending it.
New OpenELEC Jarvis build #1018: RPi / RPi2
(Supercedes previous build)

Code:
# uname -a
Linux rpi512 4.1.10 #1 Sun Oct 18 21:02:59 BST 2015 armv6l GNU/Linux

# vcgencmd version
Oct 11 2015 16:21:59
Copyright (c) 2012 Broadcom
version cdea693c2a4280e4855643dc7840392d915f19b8 (clean) (release)

# lsb_release
OpenELEC (Milhouse) - Version: devel-20151018210211-#1018-g3f21054 [Build #1018]

# vcdbg log msg 2>&1 | grep DTOK
001735.592: Kernel trailer DTOK property says yes

# Kernel device tree status: Enabled

Based on tip of OpenELEC master (3f210547, changelog) and tip of XBMC master (a07c856e, changelog) with the following modifications: Build Highlights:
  1. Drop Confluence TvTunes support
Build Details:
  1. XBMC:
    • [texture] redact username/password when texture loading fails (PR:8241, 1 commit, 1 file changed)
    • [logging] minor cosmetics (PR:8235, 2 commits, 1 file changed)
    • Minor cleanup to match naming convention in video database (PR:8213, 1 commit, 2 files changed)
    • Fix two crash-and-burns (PR:8223, 3 commits, 3 files changed)
    • [Confluence] drop tvtunes support (PR:8243, 1 commit, 6 files changed)
    • [addons] cleanup blacklisting (PR:8210, 5 commits, 10 files changed)
    • remove dependency from Unrar lib to GUIWindowManager (PR:8245, 1 commit, 1 file changed)
    • Minors from RetroPlayer branch (PR:8224, 7 commits, 8 files changed)
  2. pvr.hts:
    • fixed various complaints by CLion (PR:114, 1 commit, 16 files changed)
  3. Additional commits/pull requests/changes not yet merged upstream:
    • Updated: [env] patch: Enable pvr addons, disable PVR updates
Texture Cache Maintenance Utility: Preload your texture cache for optimal UI performance. Remotely manage media libraries. Purge unused artwork to free up space. Find missing media. Configurable QA check to highlight metadata issues. Aid in diagnosis of library and cache related problems.
(2015-10-18, 21:39)BubbleBobble Wrote: Hahaha i feel your pain. Remember I also have that "expensive" Epson projector which should never blank out considering that pricetag.

I had rare problems with my old 400 euro Yamaha AVR which had dual hdmi output. Then I upgraded for sound and paid 1200 euro for my Anthem... I certainly didn't expect to enter hdmi-handshake hell Sad

Thanks for your help; appreciate it. Anyway, ordered a Denon AVR-X2100W from a place with great return policy, so hope it works better with Pi2.
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Hi,

1080i29.97 H264 mkv file - MMAL deinterlacing not working with latest build.
Sample file: link
New OpenELEC Jarvis build #1019: RPi / RPi2
(Supercedes previous build)

Code:
# uname -a
Linux rpi512 4.1.10 #1 Mon Oct 19 21:40:29 BST 2015 armv6l GNU/Linux

# vcgencmd version
Oct 11 2015 16:21:59
Copyright (c) 2012 Broadcom
version cdea693c2a4280e4855643dc7840392d915f19b8 (clean) (release)

# lsb_release
OpenELEC (Milhouse) - Version: devel-20151019213938-#1019-g0c6541f [Build #1019]

# vcdbg log msg 2>&1 | grep DTOK
001716.697: Kernel trailer DTOK property says yes

# Kernel device tree status: Enabled

Based on tip of OpenELEC master (0c6541ff, changelog) and tip of XBMC master (4f0c0598, changelog) with the following modifications: Build Highlights:
  1. Kodi GUI and PVR tweaks
  2. Include PR8254, an initial stab at fixing problems with PGS 3D subtitles
  3. Include patch from trac #16329 fixing SMS/T9 input after Korean keyboard breakage
Build Details:
  1. OpenELEC:
    • xf86-video-nvidia-legacy: Bump driver, add kernel 4.3 support (PR:4382, 2 commits, 4 files changed)
    • scripts/checkdeps: fix gentoo deps (PR:4380, 2 commits, 2 files changed)
  2. XBMC:
    • [guilib] enable onfocus/onunfocus actions for base containers (PR:8177, 1 commit, 3 files changed)
    • [guilib] scrollbar not reading custom hitrect specified (PR:8200, 1 commit, 2 files changed)
    • [Fix] Restore music file view display of extracted tag data and sort criteria (PR:8205, 1 commit, 3 files changed)
    • Revert "[pvr] fix playback of recordings when an exact duplicate exists" (PR:8252, 1 commit, 1 file changed)
    • FIX: [droid] idiot-proof framerate detection (PR:8255, 1 commit, 1 file changed)
    • [PVR] EpgContainer: use shared_ptr to manage CEpg pointers (PR:8247, 1 commit, 11 files changed)
    • [guilib] oninfo for controls (PR:8169, 4 commits, 24 files changed)
  3. pvr.hts:
    • Refactor class Settings, step 2 (PR:116, 2 commits, 12 files changed)
    • Predictive tuning improvements (PR:117, 4 commits, 5 files changed)
    • Subscription rework (PR:121, 1 commit, 7 files changed)
  4. newclock5:
    • New commits in this build:
      • VideoPlayer: fix ff after recent changes (fdb3f027)
      • AE: squash audio sync (c2c102dc)
  5. Additional commits/pull requests/changes not yet merged upstream:
    • Added: [pkg] patch: Initial fix for SMS/T9 from trac #16329
    • Added: [pkg] PR:8254: FIX: Only handle 3D bitmap subs in TAB
Texture Cache Maintenance Utility: Preload your texture cache for optimal UI performance. Remotely manage media libraries. Purge unused artwork to free up space. Find missing media. Configurable QA check to highlight metadata issues. Aid in diagnosis of library and cache related problems.
(2015-10-18, 18:23)hdmkv Wrote:
(2015-10-18, 17:39)popcornmix Wrote: I've seen a few issues with Onkyo and banding or stutter caused by its video processing. Even in "through" mode, it still replaces the video signal with its own version (so it can overlay OSD info) and there are reports that this causes issues. Some Onkyo models have a secret mode which disables any processing (including OSD) which has fixed issues for some. See:
https://www.avforums.com/threads/onkyo-v...g.1957818/

BTW, I have an Onkyo TX-NR609 and that doesn't have the 3D switching issue.
Can't believe the newer, pricier TX-NR636 does! Just tried via my old Pioneer VSX-822 and no problems.

I'll try the link you posted, thanks.

Update: Onkyo 636 has no such hidden setting by pressing 'DVR' and 'Display' at the same time. Tried every input button and 'Display' just in case. In 636's setting, turned off 'Display OSD' setting, but the blanking out still happens. May just consider another AVR after some research (proper video through, proper HDMI, price, etc.). Or, doing something like this, similar to @BubbleBobble.

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I think you're supposed to press the "Return" button and not the "Display" button. On my TX-NR828, I can press BD/DVD and Return at the same time and nothing happens. When I press CBL/SAT and Return at the same time, I get a display thingy on the AVR about HDMI Through. Pressing Return multiple times steps through various "time" amounts from seconds to minutes or Off. I'm not sure what that is doing.

I too have noticed banding on my Projector, but I didn't think to blame the Onkyo for it. I figured it was the source material that was at fault. I have the AVR set to upscale everything to 1080p, but didn't think it was doing anything. When I watch TV (from HDHomerun), the Pi is already upscaling the 720p channels and the 1080i signals to 1080p so I didn't think the AVR was doing anything. I will now be doing some experiments later to see if it is responsible for the banding I see.

I really like my Onkyo most of the time, but I've read some terrible things about faulty HDMI (I have an older 606 that hasn't failed yet). I also get some trouble from it when I turn on the Kodi option to adjust the refresh rate. I get a second or two of black nothingness while the AVR and/or projector resync.

Just out of curiosity, why do you split the signal from the Pi? I just run my Pi straight into the AVR on the CBL/SAT input and let the AVR peel off the audio. Are there times that you let your projector playback the sound so that you don't have to turn the AVR on? I never use the sound capability of my projector. I have no HDMI splitters or switches in my setup, just the Onkyo AVR.

EDIT: Never mind on that last question. I see that you "might" do that to avoid the AVR mucking up the video from the Pi.
Experience: It's what you get when you were expecting something else.
(2015-10-19, 23:48)Milhouse Wrote: New OpenELEC Jarvis build #1019

- 3D subs seems to work now Smile


issues:

- when leaving a 3D movie a short 'bleep' comes out of the front speakers.

- when cycling through subtitles it doesn't say which languages but all are labeled 'Unknown' (EDIT: same with audio streams)

- when you stop a 3D movie and press play again the gui asks to continue on the time-stamp you stopped watching. If you select that it will continue on that time point but it plays in 2D.

- in System->settings->system->video output->refresh rate. When you select a new refresh rate you are given a yes/no option. When timed-out it falls back to your previous refreshrate but the gui lists the refresh rate you selected (and not the real refresh rate that has fallen back to).


requests:
- when pressing play on a BDMV folder give an option to select 3D in the simplified menu.
+1 to BubbleBobble's points, but also chapter support for 3D ISO's. Thanks.

(2015-10-20, 01:38)afremont Wrote: I think you're supposed to press the "Return" button and not the "Display" button. On my TX-NR828, I can press BD/DVD and Return at the same time and nothing happens. When I press CBL/SAT and Return at the same time, I get a display thingy on the AVR about HDMI Through. Pressing Return multiple times steps through various "time" amounts from seconds to minutes or Off. I'm not sure what that is doing.
Thanks... just tried it, and doesn't work with Onkyo 636.
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airplay music still doesn't work for me when trying to airplay from spotify app to kodi on RPI2.
i'm using the 2015-10-19 build.
People are reporting issues with 3D ISOs played as 2D (monoscopic) in the Zidoo thread ("playback stops after a while").
As we're using the same patches, has anyone tested this on Pi? (I have a 3D TV, but no 3D ISO.)
(2015-10-20, 20:55)menakite Wrote: People are reporting issues with 3D ISOs played as 2D (monoscopic) in the Zidoo thread ("playback stops after a while").
As we're using the same patches, has anyone tested this on Pi? (I have a 3D TV, but no 3D ISO.)

... about "playback stops after a while". If you say yes to continue a stopped 3D video it will play as 2D. I mentioned this a few posts above.

also you need to hand-select the 3D playlist from the simplified menu.


Can you link the thread? or specific post of issues? I have been trying a number of 3D iso's on build #1019 and i was very enthusiastic.
Couple posts by Skank:
http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=...pid2138237
http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=...pid2138381

I believe he's referring to OSD -> 3D -> Watch as 2D (or preferred 3D mode set to "2D - monoscopic" in settings).
Select "Play in 3d mode" and then try switch to 2D via the OSD.
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