(2015-07-18 08:43)coyote82 Wrote: hi,
will it be pssoble to start cinema vision via the cinema experience button in Kodi and threw my ipad app (xbmc constellation)?
Or do the app developer update the iphone app and Kodi will get a seperate button?
I'm honestly not sure yet. Just yesterday we started talking to our developer about skin integration. We will likely reach out to the skinning community and try to get a CinemaVision button embedded in the skins, much like the button for Cinema Experience. I'm not sure if we can use the existing button because of possible conflicts, I'm sure we'll be able to get the skinning community behind adding a few lines of code to make CinemaVision launch the same way that CE launched though.
(2015-07-18 08:55)Dave the Minion Wrote: Cool video to see things in action. Also brings up a bunch of queries.
1. Local Trailers. CE worked off the -trailer.xxx which Kodi uses to identify local trailers stored in the same directory as the movie the trailer is for (if you do all that work yourself) but also requires -trailer.xxx on any trailer in 1 specific local folder of just trailers to actually get them to play? Will it pull "library" trailers based on the naming convention? Will it play trailers with/without any naming convention from a general local folder?
Trailers currently only stream from Apple, but the functionality you're talking about will be included in the add-on when it's released. We have plans to add an option in the trailers module that will only play trailers for items in the local Kodi library, as well as plans for an option to play trailers from a local folder. We're not sure how the local folder option will work yet, but you'll likely just have to drop a video file in the Trailers folder that CinemaVision creates for you. We're not sure how much additional work will be required, as we don't have that code currently written. We will update everyone as soon as I know how it works.
(2015-07-18 08:55)Dave the Minion Wrote: 2. Other bumpers and videos. CE worked with a basic folder set-up. Movies/Audio for example. Will CV use this same folder set-up to find local folders by default for default actions like Trivia Intro or Countdown? With this, could you simply tell CV where the CV main folder is an everything else works "out of the box?
CinemaVision is using a different folder structure, but all of that is created for you with the new add-on. All you have to do is point it to a location where you'd like the content stored, and it will create the structure and (when we implement it) unpack the default content to those folders. It doesn't use Cinema Experience's folder structure because CinemaVision doesn't require that much infrastructure to work. 3D content folders are a thing of the past, and we've created it to match the module structure that's in the add-on to avoid confusion. If there's interest
, we'll write an executable that will perform the migration and move all of your Cinema Experience files into the CinemaVision folder structure, and remove the Cinema Experience folder when that migration is complete.
Our default folder structure is currently:
ROOT FOLDER (the location you tell CinemaVision to store files)
-Audio Format Bumpers
-Dolby Digital Plus
-DTS-HD Master Audio
-[Future Supported Ratings Systems]
(2015-07-18 08:55)Dave the Minion Wrote: 3. CE worked best as a full playlist that got to run it's course beginning to end. In the video it looks like you end it abruptly. Does this cause issues with Kodi or CV not playing the next time because the previous run was not yet "finished"?
I ended it abruptly for the same reason that I fast forwarded through trailers. I didn't want YouTube to flag the content!
We have plans to implement hot keys that will allow you to skip forward, pause and stop the playlist without breaking it. They're just not there yet.
(2015-07-18 08:55)Dave the Minion Wrote: 4. Again with CE, you could skip a video by pressing PageUp or skip backwards with PageDown. In the video it looks like you FFW through the movie trailer. Do the playlist skip functions still work?
They don't work, yet.
When they do, they'll be standard for all preshow content. You'll be able to skip video bumpers, trivia slides, etc. individually using one button throughout the preshow, for example.
(2015-07-18 08:55)Dave the Minion Wrote: 5. 3D trailer/bumper support? If so, based on what trigger(s)?
It's not there yet, but it will be. 3D support will be based on Kodi. CinemaVision will detect that your feature is a 3D film, and then play the 3D content stored in the same folder structure above to suit it.
(2015-07-18 08:55)Dave the Minion Wrote: 6. Audio format bumpers will be triggered by the library info, correct? If so, can it also determine the number of channels and play a 5.1 or 7.1 or other bumper based on those parameters?
That's correct. Currently, we have support for formats like Auro-3D and DTS-X for example, but until those audio codecs are actually in the video content being played by CinemaVision, we'll have to rely on your receiver to upscale it, and the wrong videos will probably play. Unfortunately, our add-on can't automatically determine your speaker configuration. What you can do is create a Video Bumper module that points to specific files or a folder that you create containing that kind of content, and put it anywhere in your sequence.
(2015-07-18 08:55)Dave the Minion Wrote: If you need Beta testers I'd be happy to try things out. Play with it and try to "break" it and report back all feedback good or bad.
Apologies for the long post. Doesn't seem to be spoiler tags here.
I'm not sure when, but we will need folks in the community testing and giving us feedback. Don't apologize for long posts. They don't hurt anyone, and we appreciate the feedback!
(2015-07-18 13:37)wpbpete Wrote: I noticed you FF'd thru the trailer and it seemed to go very slow, CE has always had this problem, you could never FF or skip any part of the intro's. Is that something you intend to improve?
Unfortunately, that's a limitation of streaming content, for now. What we are going to do is add those hot keys allowing you to fast forward over the entire trailer (or whatever content) at once. That's not in there yet, but it will be.
(2015-07-18 13:37)wpbpete Wrote: Also, are we really gonna have to see your logo Over and Over and Over.... LoL
That's how you brainwash folks, right? Repetition?
Seriously though, no. Our logo and site will be all over the default content package
that's installed to allow the add-on to work out of the box. Really, that's a measure to point people to the CinemaVision.tv website to see what other content folks have put on the site and give them more options for their preshow. You will not be limited to using content with our logo on it
by any means.
(2015-07-18 14:32)GoofyJeff Wrote: The new video looks great! Seems much easier to configure than Cinema Experience, and I love the fact that you can rearrange items on the timeline. Very cool.. And to echo another poster's remark, if y'all need people to beta test before general release let me know. I don't know crap about coding and the internal workings of Kodi, but I am a big movie fan and love having movie nights with CE.
Thank you, sir! We were going for easy to configure and manipulate, and sincerely hope that everyone thinks we accomplished that. As soon as a release is ready for community testing, you all will be the first to know!
(2015-07-18 14:40)GoofyJeff Wrote: I believe those are just their versions of the trailer intro video, feature intro video, etc and you can customize whatever video you want in their place.
That's exactly it!