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GoodCode · 2015-09-17, 17:32

(2015-09-17, 16:56)wrxtasy Wrote: Why should a Kodi user support Amazon, when they have a walled garden approach and definitely do not support Open Source software like Kodi ?

The only reason I do is that the box provides the best integration with the one killer app: Netflix.

Netflix provides maybe half of what my family watches, so I want a really clean integration between it and Kodi. For the price, I haven't found anything close to the Fire TV.

If I did find something, I would likely jump ship. It's a pretty good box for the price, but the issues mentioned keep me from using it anywhere other than the family room for casual viewing.

BORIStheBLADE · 2015-09-17, 17:59

(2015-09-17, 17:09)hdmkv Wrote: Looks like only 30fps 4K? Confusing, as it also says "Provides uncompromised user experience for WQXGA display at 60fps".

One interesting bit I noticed in Amazon's specs are "HDMI audio pass through up to 7.1" and "Dolby Atmos (EC3_JOC)". Wondering if HD audio support is a possibility.

Sweet! Hope we get more info on this.

~~Ned Scott~~ · 2015-09-17, 18:45

(2015-09-17, 17:32)GoodCode Wrote:
(2015-09-17, 16:56)wrxtasy Wrote: Why should a Kodi user support Amazon, when they have a walled garden approach and definitely do not support Open Source software like Kodi ?

The only reason I do is that the box provides the best integration with the one killer app: Netflix.

Netflix provides maybe half of what my family watches, so I want a really clean integration between it and Kodi. For the price, I haven't found anything close to the Fire TV.

If I did find something, I would likely jump ship. It's a pretty good box for the price, but the issues mentioned keep me from using it anywhere other than the family room for casual viewing.

Google Nexus Player is running at about $70 USD and was as low as $50 USD at one point recently, and that has 1080 Netflix with a nice remote-friendly interface.

**Dhorlo** · (This post was last modified: 2015-09-17, 20:15 by Dhorlo.)

(2015-09-17, 18:45)Ned Scott Wrote:
(2015-09-17, 17:32)GoodCode Wrote:
(2015-09-17, 16:56)wrxtasy Wrote: Why should a Kodi user support Amazon, when they have a walled garden approach and definitely do not support Open Source software like Kodi ?

The only reason I do is that the box provides the best integration with the one killer app: Netflix.

Netflix provides maybe half of what my family watches, so I want a really clean integration between it and Kodi. For the price, I haven't found anything close to the Fire TV.

If I did find something, I would likely jump ship. It's a pretty good box for the price, but the issues mentioned keep me from using it anywhere other than the family room for casual viewing.

Google Nexus Player is running at about $70 USD and was as low as $50 USD at one point recently, and that has 1080 Netflix with a nice remote-friendly interface.

But if you've got an Amazon Prime account, it's hard to ignore those pieces, (Prime video, music and photo storage). Add to that the Alexa integration to universal search the various video apps, (Hulu, Amazon Prime, HBO GO, Showtime, etc.) as well as do what Alexa does on it's own, and it's pretty compelling to go with the new FTV over a Nexus Player.

**hdmkv** · 2015-09-17, 20:26

+1... if you're invested in Prime, Fire TV is almost a no brainer for the price.

**Tinwarble** · (This post was last modified: 2015-09-17, 20:59 by Tinwarble.)

I'm more interested in the new Stick.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZVJAF9G/ref=ods_fs_ftvsv

I already have a SATV, and I'm not so invested in the Amazon "eco-system" that I need to replace my old AFTV. But having the new, faster Stick as a secondary device would be nice.

**hdmkv** · 2015-09-17, 21:30

Hmm, I think it's the same Stick, but with software upgrade to FireTV OS 5 and Alexa.

**Tinwarble** · 2015-09-17, 21:50

Yep, I think you're right.

I thought they had updated the SoC in it also, but looks like they skipped that and just updated the OS.

So they [Amazon] need to get rid of the "New" in front of the stick.

**hdmkv** · 2015-09-17, 21:51

They do, it's misleading.

**Martijn** · (This post was last modified: 2015-09-17, 21:52 by Martijn.)

It's also not fully 4k as specs tell otherwise for the box.

**hdmkv** · 2015-09-17, 22:02

Only 4K video playback, not the UI. Cost-cutting tactic apparently to keep cost at $100.

**Tinwarble** · 2015-09-17, 22:27

Here's the specs comparison chart.

**Lunatixz** · 2015-09-17, 22:37

4k@30Hz... canceling my order, what a waste...

**Martijn** · 2015-09-17, 22:38

Still better than a ATV4 :p

MrCrispy · 2015-09-17, 22:48

(2015-09-17, 17:32)GoodCode Wrote:
(2015-09-17, 16:56)wrxtasy Wrote: Why should a Kodi user support Amazon, when they have a walled garden approach and definitely do not support Open Source software like Kodi ?

The only reason I do is that the box provides the best integration with the one killer app: Netflix.

Netflix provides maybe half of what my family watches, so I want a really clean integration between it and Kodi. For the price, I haven't found anything close to the Fire TV.

If I did find something, I would likely jump ship. It's a pretty good box for the price, but the issues mentioned keep me from using it anywhere other than the family room for casual viewing.

My solution to this was a Chromecast which I like a lot more than the Fire Tv family, for one crucial reason - Chromecast. Being able to add/control videos from any computer/smartphone is so much more convenient than using the remote and gui on the tv. IMO if Amazon added this it'd be perfect.