2017-03-08, 09:20
@wesk05 does this include ALL AMLogic boxes - ie the S912 - U9 ? ....
and what about the Zidoo X9S and the nVIDIA Shield ?
and what about the Zidoo X9S and the nVIDIA Shield ?
(2017-03-08, 09:20)wrxtasy Wrote: @wesk05 does this include ALL AMLogic boxes - ie the S912 - U9 ? ....To the best of my knowledge, it is like this on every single HDR capable Android box. None of them are capable of processing HDR. They all simply passthrough the HDR10 metadata.
and what about the Zidoo X9S and the nVIDIA Shield ?
(2017-03-08, 12:02)noggin Wrote: So current bottom line is that SDR 10 bit 709 stuff will play fine - but Rec 2020 SDR (which I believe to be a valid content type?) and any Rec 2020 HDR stuff won't ? (Is Rec 2100 Rec2020+HDR?)All HDR capable Android boxes can decode and output in 10-bit/12-bit Rec.2020 color space with HDR10 metadata passthrough. What they don't do is process HDR content and convert it to SDR content or do gamut mapping. They dither/truncate to 8-bit and simply strip the HDR10 metadata.
Is this irrespective of player solution - i.e. are there any HDR10 compatible Netflix or Netflix-type Android apps that correctly handle HDR output as HDR10 with metadata? I'm assuming Dolby Vision has yet to trouble this area?
It would be intellectually satisfying (!) to know if there are any solutions currently available in the Intel, AMLogic, AMD, nVidia etc. arena that correctly decode HEVC or similar content in 10 or 12 bit encoded in HDR with HDR10 and/or HLG and/or Dolby Vision HDR and output this over HDMI in a suitable HDR format for suitable displays.
(2017-03-08, 13:37)jd17 Wrote: I own a S905X box (LibreELEC Jarvis) and a HDR10 + DV TV.S905X is a HDR10 capable SoC.
(2017-03-08, 18:53)wesk05 Wrote: All HDR capable Android boxes can decode and output in 10-bit/12-bit Rec.2020 color space with HDR10 metadata passthrough. What they don't do is process HDR content and convert it to SDR content or do gamut mapping. They dither/truncate to 8-bit and simply strip the HDR10 metadata.
(2017-03-08, 19:43)noggin Wrote: So there are HDR10 solutions for Android that will happily play 10/12-bit Rec 2020 4:2:0 stuff (presumably H265/HEVC?) and output 10/12-bit video with HDR10 metadata passthroug - i.e. they will play HDR content and output it in HDR properly.
However they don't correctly convert HDR content to SDR (so if you play HDR material but have an SDR display you are not getting a proper result) - as they just output 8-bit truncated HDR video without metadata, rather than properly converting to SDR.
(2017-03-09, 20:53)nenito2k Wrote: From a french review himedia q pro even outputs correcrtly HLG metadata....but never read himedia claim it....That is very interesting. Android 7.0 seem to support HLG only in VP9 profile 2/3. It doesn't seem to support HLG in HEVC. Also HLG transport requires HDMI 2.0b. Does this mean that Himedia Q5/10 Pro has been upgraded to HDMI 2.0b? The SoC is from late 2015. I didn't think that it supported VP9 profile 2. Do you have a link this French review?
(2017-03-09, 20:53)nenito2k Wrote: @wesk05We'll see, I don't expect all SOC's magically do correct tone mapping.
great info there....but i doubt that HDR to SDR conversion is a top request for 99% of people. And anyway in 2018 most Soc's will do it probably...hell even TV's might...
(2017-03-19, 01:48)Piracy Cop Wrote: I'd like an S905X box with gigabit Internet. What are my options?I don't believe the S905X SoC supports Gigabit Ethernet. Best you might get is an external USB 2.0/3.0 to Gigabit adaptor which will be faster than the on board 100Mbs NIC ? (USB 3.0 adaptors will run at 2.0 speeds, but seem to be easier to find than USB 2.0 these days - presumably as 2.0 ones maxed out at 480Mbs tops and probably quite a lot less)
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