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Intel NUC - Skylake (6th Generation CPU)
#61
(2015-12-30, 14:11)Karnis Wrote: I have made extensive A/B comparisons comparing all 3 boxes playing the same material at the same time, comparing the image quality over my Denon. I found the picture quality of the 2 Intel NUCs to be virtually identical (as one would expect). The Beebox has an overall sharper image being output. It's not huge, but it is noticeable.
can you explain it...technical view?
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#62
(2015-12-30, 14:11)Karnis Wrote: The first most obvious thing I noticed was the output of the Beebox was significantly sharper, I had to turn the sharpness setting on my HDTV down 5 points from 8 to 3.
Surely you have any sharpness processing set to zero or off if you care about picture quality?

If you put a decent multi-burst or similar HF test pattern through the system you'll be able to objectively compare the output quality and detect any artificial HF processing (once it has been disabled in the display). I guess it is entirely possible that some post-processing has been enabled in the Beebox somehow ? Even a basic 1920x1080 image with alternate black and white samples horizontally will show this (though is a poor HF source because if it's handled non-Gaussianly?)
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#63
Hi noggin:
The Samsung I have will tolerate sharpness settings to about 8 or 9 (out of 100) before it starts to introduce any undue ringing on edges. At zero, comparatively speaking, it's a little bit on the blurry side for my tastes. I generally like to use windows explorer & text to set my sharpness setting. I will set it to zero when I do my testing for you guys. Smile

I do have some Spears & Munsil & other test patterns I'll check out in the near future for the community, but I'm leaving for a weekend trip tomorrow & won't be able to mess around with it until early next week.

My immediate thoughts are that either the Intels are slightly rolling off the HF on their video output or the Beebox is boosting the HF (duh, obvious, I know Wink ) I also plan to compare it against my Win 10+nVidia PC & SATV as well, just for shites & gripes. Wink

Believe me, I was quite surprised at the results of my comparison. I expected the image quality of the 3 Braswells to be the same. But I switched back to the Beebox my eyes & gut just said "that looks better".

I don't want to derail the thread any more so when I get a chance to do this I'll pick it up in the Beebox thread. Thanks!
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#64
(2015-12-30, 14:11)Karnis Wrote:
(2015-12-30, 10:01)fritsch Wrote:
(2015-12-30, 01:56)smitopher Wrote: Ya know, that sound quite audiophiley. Maybe the NUC's need audiophile grade hdmi cables .Blush

The image quality of the Beebox ... - the quality is totally the same, there is no difference at all. If you tried them on windows, you got a driver issue or some setting wrong.

Nope, all 3 boxes running the same OE 6 updated to 6.0.95.

The first most obvious thing I noticed was the output of the Beebox was significantly sharper, I had to turn the sharpness setting on my HDTV down 5 points from 8 to 3.

I have made extensive A/B comparisons comparing all 3 boxes playing the same material at the same time, comparing the image quality over my Denon. I found the picture quality of the 2 Intel NUCs to be virtually identical (as one would expect). The Beebox has an overall sharper image being output. It's not huge, but it is noticeable.

I'm a 30 year HT enthusiast. I've been using HTPC's for over 15 years. I'm a former Mod at the HTPC section of the AVS Forums. I was involved with the original TheaterTek DVD software back in the day. I'm a 25 year CCTV specialist. I know a thing or two about video. Don't assume I'm some novice because of my post count. I stand by my findings. Smile
It still sounds like an audiophile.

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#65
i am wondering can i buy this nuc and use it as htpc + pvr?

according to cetoncard site:

i need at least Dual Core @ 2.5 Ghz (Intel Core2 or AMD Athlon 2) for usb cetoncard.

do u know if it meets or not?
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#66
uhm...
yes...
by a wide WIDE WIDE margin

You don't have to, but I'd suggest getting a set box like a Braswell based box (NUC or Beebox) and a NAS/Server to be the PVR.

A skylake NUC has enough umph... but I find a single purpose box to connect to the tv is more trouble free.
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#67
Quote:It still sounds like an audiophile.

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235 of 249 people found the following review helpful
One Star
By Stephen P. Rice on February 10, 2015
It doesn't work with my VCR.
Wink
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#68
Minimum system requirements:
PC with Microsoft Windows 7 SP1 Home Premium, Professional or Ultimate. Not compatible with Windows 8.
2.0 GHz or faster dual-core or quad-core 64-bit (x64) processor
3 GB of RAM (4 GB recommended)
350 GB of available hard disk drive space recommended for 50 hours of HDTV recordings
1 available USB 2.0 or greater port
HDCP-compliant graphics card or on-board graphics
HDMI output, or DVI output with separate 5.1 audio output required for Dolby 5.1 surround sound
One Multi-stream CableCARD (M-Card), available from your cable TV provider
Digital cable TV subscription from your local cable TV provider. HD package required to receive High Definition TV channels
Please see the Multi-room Ceton InfiniTV System Requirements for PCs using multiple tuner devices and/or multiple extenders

this is the min. requreiment for ceton cablecard.
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#69
(2016-01-03, 02:38)Karnis Wrote:
Quote:It still sounds like an audiophile.

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235 of 249 people found the following review helpful
One Star
By Stephen P. Rice on February 10, 2015
It doesn't work with my VCR.
Wink
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A 6 foot power cable for my NUC
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#70
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The NUC Blog Wrote:Conclusion
The NUC6i5SYH and NUC6i5SYK models really pack some serious punch. According to these initial benchmark results this is easily the best NUC for someone looking to do some gaming or other GPU intensive tasks...
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#71
They did not test the relevant things a mediaplayer would need.
First decide what functions / features you expect from a system. Then decide for the hardware. Don't waste your money on crap.
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#72
Since noone else has started this thread yet I tought I would.

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http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/n...i5syk.html
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/pub...-brief.pdf

I have this running with OpenELEC 7.0 Fritsch build.

Also use this adapter to get HDMI 2.0/2.0a and [email protected]:
http://club-3d.com/index.php/products/re...apter.html

Also run another box with Windows 10 build 14251

Not been able to test any material to see if HDMI 2.0a HDR works yet.

Setup:
LG 55EG960V with PCB upgrade that has HDMI 2.0a
Marantz NR1606 with HDMI 2.0a passthrough

Feels free to add to this thread Smile
AppleTV 4K, LG 65E6 OLED TV, Marantz NR1606, Harmony Elite
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#73
I have this running with fritsch's build of OpenELEC and with the Club-3D minidp-hdmi 2.0 adapter ( http://club-3d.com/index.php/products/re...apter.html ). I can get [email protected] but not much material yet.

Wanted to test HDR videos from http://demo-uhd3d.com/categorie.php?tag=hdr but not able to run since SkyLake does not handle 10bit material very well. Also to test if my TV indeed does have HDMI 2.0a now after a PCB upgrade Tongue
AppleTV 4K, LG 65E6 OLED TV, Marantz NR1606, Harmony Elite
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#74
Wondering if anyone here can help...

Need to replace my acer revo r3610 as it can't cope anymore due to HEVC content.

Looking to purchase either the NUC6I3SYK or the NUC6I5SYK.
All I need it to do is play up to HEVC 1080p.
I don't need 4k playback at all.

I can currently get:
NUC6I3SYK + 8GB ram + 120GB m2 ssd - £350
NUC6I5SYK + 8GB ram + 120GB m2 ssd - £440

the i3 model is cheaper than the previous gen i5 model with ( from what I can tell ) the same kind of CPU power.
the i5 model is obviously more expensive ( making the i3 quite an attractive price point ), but is a more powerful CPU.

Any advice is really appreciated!
My media center:
12TB Homebuilt Raid5 Server | Motorola Nyxboard Hybrid | Bose V3 lifestyle | Samsung S7 55" Slim LED TV

4 PC clients w/ xbmc (windows) - 1 w/ live
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#75
I'm running a NUC5PPYH and it has NO problems with 1080p HEVC. Now I'm running a dev build of Kodi 17 (Krypton) http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=231955. I do not have an idea about Jarvis.

So if you want "enough" NUC for 1080p HEVC, the Pentium or even Celeron NUC can cover you and save you a few £ for when you replace it with a NUC that will natively do the new 4K 60 fps 10 bit high bit rate blah blah balh...
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