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(2017-11-13, 02:06)Yubby Wrote: The 'details' are 'not' used necessarily for debugging purposes, but for deciding on the choice between files and streams to identify a better version or source.
If you can't tell by just watching then there's little point in the info.
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(2017-11-13, 07:21)Hitcher Wrote:
(2017-11-13, 02:06)Yubby Wrote: The 'details' are 'not' used necessarily for debugging purposes, but for deciding on the choice between files and streams to identify a better version or source.
If you can't tell by just watching then there's little point in the info.   
Why do you have to be such a smartass? Just because you personally do not need that feature anymore does not mean that it was not useful. I used that feature on nearly every over-the-air broadcast that ran through Kodi, and trust me, if it were not for other reasons, I would revert back to 16 because this feature is such an important one, to me. Yubby is right, you devs are completely disconnected from your own user base and it seriously shows. You guys are adding unneeded or even unwanted and useless features just because you have nothing better to do. Please, stop FIXING things that are not broken!
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Wow the use of apostrophes in that post made it painful to read Smile

Nearly all the info from the old codec info screen is still available, you just need to use the default playerprocessinfo (O) & the new playerdebug screen (CTRL+SHIFT+O). Using these two should give you enough information to deem why your stream is crap quality or whatever else you need to see.

I was initially against the removal of the old codec info screen but honestly I don't miss it now, I just moved with the times & mapped a button to playerdebug. Job done.
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(2017-11-13, 16:05)Lexridge Wrote: You guys are adding unneeded or even unwanted and useless features just because you have nothing better to do. Please, stop FIXING things that are not broken! 
I'm guessing you didn't read through the thread, the video player was completely re-written for the first time in many years... do you think that was done because people have nothing better to do? Of course not.
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(2017-11-13, 16:05)Lexridge Wrote: Why do you have to be such a smartass? Just because you personally do not need that feature anymore does not mean that it was not useful. I used that feature on nearly every over-the-air broadcast that ran through Kodi, and trust me, if it were not for other reasons, I would revert back to 16 because this feature is such an important one, to me. Yubby is right, you devs are completely disconnected from your own user base and it seriously shows. You guys are adding unneeded or even unwanted and useless features just because you have nothing better to do. Please, stop FIXING things that are not broken!

@Lexridge

Your comments and attitude are uncalled for. This is your first warning

Show respect to your fellow users and Team Members. @Hitchers statement is accurate. Do you really need some numbers on a screen to convince you that what you are seeing is "good". Do you have such little trust in your own powers of observation? Instead of concentrating on the technical accuracy of the video, maybe enjoy the movie instead.

You do realise this is a FOSS development? That means the developers don't have to lift an iota to please you. In fact they can choose to stop all development today if they so desire without any repercussions to them.

If you are not happy with Kodi, please, please use another product, or you can contribute to the development code. Failing those two, then just accept Kodi as is distributed.
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From a psychological point of view - having to look at those numbers might just be an obsession. That would also be a reason why people have such a hard time to accept that it is gone or changed now. I don't mean it offensive in any way. Just looking at psychology from time to time really helps a lot.
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(2017-11-13, 21:45)Karellen Wrote:
(2017-11-13, 16:05)Lexridge Wrote: Why do you have to be such a smartass? Just because you personally do not need that feature anymore does not mean that it was not useful. I used that feature on nearly every over-the-air broadcast that ran through Kodi, and trust me, if it were not for other reasons, I would revert back to 16 because this feature is such an important one, to me. Yubby is right, you devs are completely disconnected from your own user base and it seriously shows. You guys are adding unneeded or even unwanted and useless features just because you have nothing better to do. Please, stop FIXING things that are not broken!

@Lexridge

Your comments and attitude are uncalled for. This is your first warning

Show respect to your fellow users and Team Members. @Hitchers statement is accurate. Do you really need some numbers on a screen to convince you that what you are seeing is "good". Do you have such little trust in your own powers of observation? Instead of concentrating on the technical accuracy of the video, maybe enjoy the movie instead.

You do realise this is a FOSS development? That means the developers don't have to lift an iota to please you. In fact they can choose to stop all development today if they so desire without any repercussions to them.

If you are not happy with Kodi, please, please use another product, or you can contribute to the development code. Failing those two, then just accept Kodi as is distributed. 
I apologize for my words. Some people just assume things for the wrong reasons sometimes and I should not have gone off about it.

As I mentioned before I am a broadcast television engineer. I don't like to just look at pretty bit rates in a row. Seems rather boring I think. I was using the data to compare the various broadcast encoders in local television markets and comparing between Harmonic, Adtec and Wilcox encoders. The Harmonic encoders are very efficient and can encode up to 3 HD streams in the allocated 19.4Mb/s which is amazing. By comparison the Adtec encoder (older model I assume) can only do one HD and one SD simultaneously. Something odd too, one local broadcast station is actually exceeding the 19.4Mb/s limit by quite a bit (no pun intended), which is not legal and would/should not be passed by the multiplexer, so I would assume Kodi has a bit rate bug in it somewhere or the FCC would have already shut down their transmitter months ago.
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Last I looked kodi wasn't designed to be a video stream analysis tool. Also not everyone reads history to see who does what for a living.

OK so you have a special use case which is certainly not generic. There's still the advanced shift+on overlay that's useful?
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