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Android - Zidoo X9S, X8 & X10 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions
(2017-06-16, 20:57)jarvismeier Wrote:
(2017-06-16, 12:23)drdwridav Wrote:
(2017-06-16, 03:16)jarvismeier Wrote: I have both and the zidoo has excellent 3D performance... i find it better than the pi3. One caveat is if you have an older receiver and require multi-channel PCM then the zidoo is not your choice... it can only do 2.0 PCM.

Hi there. I only have an old Dolby 5.1 decoder with optical input so presume I'll be ok? I've converted all my rips to Dolby 5.1


It has no problem with passing through regular Dolby and DTS 5.1. There are some people who have older HDMI receivers that don't support DTSHD and TrueHD but still want HD audio via PCM conversion... the people in this group will need to find another player.
Which player besides of Raspberry Pi 3? My guess is a player with a Sigma chipset with the necessary licenses, right? I've read in Zidoo forum that the RTD1295DD SoC does not support HD audio decoding to Multichannel LPCM over HDMI. The same happens with the HiSilicon Hi3798C V200 found on HiMedia Q5/Q10 Pro. Perhaps a Dune HD Solo 4K or a Popcorn A-500 player? I'm curious about that, but actually I don't need this feature.
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From memory here the Android Kodi Boxes that support HD Audio decode to Multichannel PCM are the nVIDIA Shield, WeTek Play2/Hub and the FireTV2.
Extra work with the Android Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL) has to be done I believe to even allow this.

Android Kodi uses an internally packaged Open source Audio decoder to achieve this.

If you want bit perfect HD Audio to lossless Multichannel PCM, you have to ditch Android all together and use Intel, AML S905(x) or RPi. All running Win / OSX or Linux / LibreELEC.

Android is definitely NOT the platform to use if you are an Audio nerd and want bit perfect FLAC > multichannel PCM audio output over HDMI.
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@wrxtasy: Thank you for your reply. I think that Dune and Popcorn players are in the same category, allowing HD audio decoding. However, they play in another league and are not very known in this forum.

One last question for all X9S/X10 owners: Can I zoom in/out the picture? Is the zoom feature customizable in steps? My old TVIX 6500A has zoom in/out in several steps (SigmaDesigns SMP8635 SoC).
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(2017-06-16, 20:36)Binnetie Wrote: I have firmware 1.4.4, but still the tags in front and end of subtiltes. Like this:
<i>My name is...</i>. Very annoying. Is the this problem not resolved?

Are you using the Zidoo theater? I do not have this issue anymore.
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(2017-06-19, 10:15)nikos_a Wrote:
(2017-06-16, 20:36)Binnetie Wrote: I have firmware 1.4.4, but still the tags in front and end of subtiltes. Like this:
<i>My name is...</i>. Very annoying. Is the this problem not resolved?

Are you using the Zidoo theater? I do not have this issue anymore.
No, i use ZDMC (the kodi Fork based on Kodi 16.1) with the Zidoo player.
And my moviewall won't update anymore with new movies and movie info.
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Try with standalone Zidoo player (not through ZDMC) and see if the subs work properly.
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Firmware V1.4.6 for X9S is out since 15 minutes ago. From official forum:
Quote: v1.4.6 for ZIDOO X9S
Updatelist:

System:

1,Fix the issue that flv streaming is not playable.
2,Adjust the accuracy of IR receiver.
3,Fix the error of playback in APE music.
4,Fix the issue that stream get stuck in some streaming apk.
5,Optimize the transmission of USB 3.0.
6,Fix the issue that the sata hard-disk can't be read after the wake-up of box.
7,Fix the unexpected displaying of loading infomation when stream Iqiyi videos.
8,Fix the issue that the box can't be wake up when USB 3.0 is connected with a usb stick.
9,Fix CEC failure after wake up the box.
10,Fix display failure when HDMI IN comes with 1080i video source.
11,Optimize the system stability.
12,Fix the problem in the simultaneity of audio and video in a certain App
13,Improve the compatibility of rtsp and rtmp streaming
14,Fix the black screen problem occasionally happens to a certain App
15,Fix the error happens to continuous switching channels in a certain App
16,Fix the failure to get audio tracks from online videos by system video player
17,Fix the black screen occuring to some receivers when the Deep Color is set to Auto , Color Space is YCbCr444 and resolution is [email protected] in the meantime.
18,Fix the problem unexpected reboot during standby mode
19,Nuplayer support Dolby and DTS passrough(Online stream)

App:

VideoPlayer:
1,Improve the experience of operating progress bar.
2,Fix the reading issue of BDMV titles.
3,Optimize the shortcut keys for switch audio tracks and subtitles.
4,Fix the issue that some subtitle can't be download.
5,Fix the issue that some subtitle can't be displayed properly.
6,Fix the issue some mkv files display two subtitles at the same time.
7,Fix the malfunction of bookmark.
8,Improve the playback of UHD bluray movie.

Musicplayer:
1,Fix the listing information of some APE and FLAC can't be read out.
2,Fix the failure to fetch the singer information for some songs.
3,Display the CUE list playing
4,Save the song played last time and it’s process.
5,Add CUE support for WAV and DTS.

QuickSettings:
1,Add a Auto23.976/24 for 4K switch
2, Add a switch between Nuplayer and Dvdplayer for online videos playback

File manager
1,Improve some translation
2,Fix the malfunction of classification.

Blu-Ray:
1,Fix the movie don't pause when press the OK key for the first time in the playback.

Shortcut key
1,Add delete key and multitasks function

Theater
1,Fix the problem the videos won’t be played if you add a root path of NFS.

Openwrt:
1,Support more languages.

Full_OTA_Package :
http://www.mediafire.com/file/n873p7c2at...170623.zip

China mirror:
链接:http://pan.baidu.com/s/1jHPj7N4 密码:2k4l

MD5: 77055512CA6AB0C388DA61856E645DCB

How to upgrade

ZDMC:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/n99ucxe3wb...c-17.1.apk
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Firmware V1.4.6 for X10 is already out too. From official forum:
Quote:v1.4.6 for ZIDOO X10
Updatelist:

System:

1,Fix the issue that flv streaming is not playable.
2,Adjust the accuracy of IR receiver.
3,Fix the error of playback in APE music.
4,Fix the issue that stream get stuck in some streaming apk.
5,Optimize the transmission of USB 3.0.
6,Fix the issue that the sata hard-disk can't be read after the wake-up of box.
7,Fix the unexpected displaying of loading infomation when stream Iqiyi videos.
8,Fix the issue that the box can't be wake up when USB 3.0 is connected with a usb stick.
9,Fix CEC failure after wake up the box.
10,Fix display failure when HDMI IN comes with 1080i video source.
11,Optimize the system stability.
12,Fix the problem in the simultaneity of audio and video in a certain App
13,Improve the compatibility of rtsp and rtmp streaming
14,Fix the black screen problem occasionally happens to a certain App
15,Fix the error happens to continuous switching channels in a certain App
16,Fix the failure to get audio tracks from online videos by system video player
17,Fix the black screen occuring to some receivers when the Deep Color is set to Auto , Color Space is YCbCr444 and resolution is [email protected] in the meantime.
18,Fix the problem unexpected reboot during standby mode
19,Nuplayer support Dolby and DTS passrough(Online stream)

App:

VideoPlayer:
1,Improve the experience of operating progress bar.
2,Fix the reading issue of BDMV titles.
3,Optimize the shortcut keys for switch audio tracks and subtitles.
4,Fix the issue that some subtitle can't be download.
5,Fix the issue that some subtitle can't be displayed properly.
6,Fix the issue some mkv files display two subtitles at the same time.
7,Fix the malfunction of bookmark.
8,Improve the playback of UHD bluray movie.

Musicplayer:
1,Fix the listing information of some APE and FLAC can't be read out.
2,Fix the failure to fetch the singer information for some songs.
3,Display the CUE list playing
4,Save the song played last time and it’s process.
5,Add CUE support for WAV and DTS.

QuickSettings:
1,Add a Auto23.976/24 for 4K switch
2, Add a switch between Nuplayer and Dvdplayer for online videos playback

File manager
1,Improve some translation
2,Fix the malfunction of classification.

Blu-Ray:
1,Fix the movie don't pause when press the OK key for the first time in the playback.

Shortcut key
1,Add delete key and multitasks function

Theater
1,Fix the problem the videos won’t be played if you add a root path of NFS.

Openwrt:
1,Support more languages.

Full_OTA_Package(User data won’t be wiped.):
http://www.mediafire.com/file/1oyr26k1et...24_ota.zip


MD5: 642876329015AA23BFBCDEF5F8520048

How to upgrade

ZDMC:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/n99ucxe3wb...c-17.1.apk
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(2017-06-20, 10:57)nikos_a Wrote: Try with standalone Zidoo player (not through ZDMC) and see if the subs work properly.
I have tried that but i see the tags in de zidoo player (theater) alsof.
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And finally, firmware V1.4.6 for X8. From official forum:
Quote:v1.4.6 for ZIDOO X8
Updatelist:

System:

1,Fix the issue that flv streaming is not playable.
2,Adjust the accuracy of IR receiver.
3,Fix the error of playback in APE music.
4,Fix the issue that stream get stuck in some streaming apk.
5,Optimize the transmission of USB 3.0.
6,Fix the issue that the sata hard-disk can't be read after the wake-up of box.
7,Fix the unexpected displaying of loading infomation when stream Iqiyi videos.
8,Fix the issue that the box can't be wake up when USB 3.0 is connected with a usb stick.
9,Fix CEC failure after wake up the box.
10,Fix display failure when HDMI IN comes with 1080i video source.
11,Optimize the system stability.
12,Fix the problem in the simultaneity of audio and video in a certain App
13,Improve the compatibility of rtsp and rtmp streaming
14,Fix the black screen problem occasionally happens to a certain App
15,Fix the error happens to continuous switching channels in a certain App
16,Fix the failure to get audio tracks from online videos by system video player
17,Fix the black screen occuring to some receivers when the Deep Color is set to Auto , Color Space is YCbCr444 and resolution is [email protected] in the meantime.
18,Fix the problem unexpected reboot during standby mode
19,Nuplayer support Dolby and DTS passrough(Online stream)

App:

VideoPlayer:
1,Improve the experience of operating progress bar.
2,Fix the reading issue of BDMV titles.
3,Optimize the shortcut keys for switch audio tracks and subtitles.
4,Fix the issue that some subtitle can't be download.
5,Fix the issue that some subtitle can't be displayed properly.
6,Fix the issue some mkv files display two subtitles at the same time.
7,Fix the malfunction of bookmark.
8,Improve the playback of UHD bluray movie.

Musicplayer:
1,Fix the listing information of some APE and FLAC can't be read out.
2,Fix the failure to fetch the singer information for some songs.
3,Display the CUE list playing
4,Save the song played last time and it’s process.
5,Add CUE support for WAV and DTS.

QuickSettings:
1,Add a Auto23.976/24 for 4K switch
2, Add a switch between Nuplayer and Dvdplayer for online videos playback

File manager
1,Improve some translation
2,Fix the malfunction of classification.

Blu-Ray:
1,Fix the movie don't pause when press the OK key for the first time in the playback.

Shortcut key
1,Add delete key and multitasks function

Theater
1,Fix the problem the videos won’t be played if you add a root path of NFS.

Openwrt:
1,Support more languages.

Full_OTA_Package(User data won’t be wiped.):
http://www.mediafire.com/file/35aj5o78ae...24_ota.zip

MD5: CAFBD7CEEDE1DE97F6E42FFE2A75264A

How to upgrade

ZDMC:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/n99ucxe3wb...c-17.1.apk
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(2017-06-23, 13:41)boblo Wrote: Firmware V1.4.6 for X9S is out since 15 minutes ago. From official forum:
Quote: v1.4.6 for ZIDOO X9S
Updatelist:

...

Full_OTA_Package :
http://www.mediafire.com/file/n873p7c2at...170623.zip

China mirror:
链接:http://pan.baidu.com/s/1jHPj7N4 密码:2k4l

MD5: 77055512CA6AB0C388DA61856E645DCB

How to upgrade

ZDMC:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/n99ucxe3wb...c-17.1.apk

Is it official? Why is not available in the official site for download?
https://www.zidoo.tv/Support/downloads.html
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(2017-06-24, 14:51)Vimaro Wrote:
(2017-06-23, 13:41)boblo Wrote: Firmware V1.4.6 for X9S is out since 15 minutes ago. From official forum:
Quote: v1.4.6 for ZIDOO X9S
Updatelist:

...

Full_OTA_Package :
http://www.mediafire.com/file/n873p7c2at...170623.zip

China mirror:
链接:http://pan.baidu.com/s/1jHPj7N4 密码:2k4l

MD5: 77055512CA6AB0C388DA61856E645DCB

How to upgrade

ZDMC:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/n99ucxe3wb...c-17.1.apk

Is it official? Why is not available in the official site for download?
https://www.zidoo.tv/Support/downloads.html
Yes, it's official. You can read original posts here:
http://forum.zidoo.tv/index.php?threads/...ased.5327/
http://forum.zidoo.tv/index.php?threads/...ased.5352/
http://forum.zidoo.tv/index.php?threads/...ased.5351/

I think they have had no time to update the web page.
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I just purchased a x9s

can someone give me some help on setting it up for the first time?

I would like to be able to use kodi to have all my nice covers

and playback 3d iso etc I don't mind using external player

want to bitstream dts hd 7.1

please advise what I need to do with setup

do I need latest kodi or built in software etc?
thanks
Msi 3205u cubi
Himedia Q5
Yamaha RX-V777
BenQ w1070

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(2017-06-24, 18:38)haxel666 Wrote: I just purchased a x9s

can someone give me some help on setting it up for the first time?

I would like to be able to use kodi to have all my nice covers

and playback 3d iso etc I don't mind using external player

want to bitstream dts hd 7.1

please advise what I need to do with setup

do I need latest kodi or built in software etc?
thanks

Doing some research on x9s some users report it doesn't do dts 7.1 decode.?

I got dts hd 7.1 receiver setup will connect with hdmi should i get proper dts hd 7.1 from a 7.1 dts hd source like i did using my htpc thanks
Msi 3205u cubi
Himedia Q5
Yamaha RX-V777
BenQ w1070

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(2017-06-24, 18:38)haxel666 Wrote: I just purchased a x9s

can someone give me some help on setting it up for the first time?

I would like to be able to use kodi to have all my nice covers

and playback 3d iso etc I don't mind using external player

want to bitstream dts hd 7.1

please advise what I need to do with setup

do I need latest kodi or built in software etc?
thanks

Got mine yesterday too. What I've done so far is to upgrade firmware to latest 1.4.6 as per a few posts back. Then uninstalled zdmc. Reinstalled zdmc 17.1 using link in same post. Zdmc launches my movies and 3d movies using their native player which seems great quality.
Initial thoughts so far:
1.Picture quality looks exceptional, a step up from my pi
2.Tested a stream from ustv vod. Again found picture quality great, though did have to adjust audio delay for lip sync which is something I've not had to do on other devices. Also buffered a couple of times which again is not something I usually experience. Hopefully not a common factor!
3. 3d looks impressive from short tests, but looking forward to trying it out with my benq!
4. Been a real pain trying to access file shares on my Mac, either via nfs or smb. It's just not seeing them or letting me in if I enter path manually. Smb shares fine from windows pc.
5. You can also download kodi 17.3 from play store and use a wrapper to use the zidoo native player for 3d movies. Process looks a tad complicated to me!!!!
6. Can't advise on audio. I only have Dolby 5.1 and that works great...
7. Zidoo native player doesn't seem to pick up on right eye first flags from mkvtoolnix so I'm having to switch eyes manually through the zidoo player interface after movie starts
...thanks to 3Dgeek for a bit of advice on the way :-)
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