Android - Zidoo X9S, X8 & X10 (4K / HDR / 3D / HD Audio): Review & User Impressions

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OlivierQC Offline
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yes like Sony camp 4k SDR for example Big Grin

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You're right, Sony 'Camp' is BT2020:
Code:
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : SMPTE ST 2084
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
It played just fine for me when I tested w/my 4K TV (which isn't HDR)

CNXSoft says:
Quote:BT.2020.20140602.ts (H.265 Rec.2020 compliant – AAC audio) – Not smooth and no audio
But, w/the Sony 'Camp' clip, I am getting smooth playback and audio (has AAC 2.0).

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when i check on the web, the BT.2020.20140602.ts file do not works with many android boxes

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Anyone could test DVD playback support (ISO / VIDEO_TS)? I think I'm not asking too much Sad
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(2016-09-26 20:10)OlivierQC Wrote:  when i check on the web, the BT.2020.20140602.ts file do not works with many android boxes
Can you share this particular video?

(2016-09-26 20:17)boblo Wrote:  Anyone could test DVD playback support (ISO / VIDEO_TS)? I think I'm not asking too much Sad
Planning to; just need to find a retail DVD in my house (have a few, somewhere in boxes in storage).

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(2016-09-26 20:00)hdmkv Wrote:  You're right, Sony 'Camp' is BT2020:
Code:
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : SMPTE ST 2084
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
It played just fine for me when I tested w/my 4K TV (which isn't HDR)

CNXSoft says:
Quote:BT.2020.20140602.ts (H.265 Rec.2020 compliant – AAC audio) – Not smooth and no audio
But, w/the Sony Camp clip, I am getting smooth playback and audio (has AAC 2.0).


Did you try a file .TS ?

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@ hdmkv,

i found this on CNX software :

Where to get video, audio and image samples

http://www.cnx-software.com/2010/03/17/w...e-samples/

December 7th, 2014 at 11:58 | #14 Reply | Quote
Rec.2020 (BT.2020) sample:
http://yunpan.cn/cg7DATekIkv3k password: c995
Mirror: http://pan.baidu.com/s/1dGoRs password: vkel

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That 'Rec.2020 (BT.2020) sample' is 4.9GB, and downloading at a snail's pace, so will test w/this one instead...

Code:
General
ID                                       : 0 (0x0)
Complete name                            : Y:\AV Test Clips\4K Demos\(HDR HEVC 10-bit 59.940fps) LG Daylight.ts
Format                                   : MPEG-TS
File size                                : 358 MiB
Duration                                 : 48 s 614 ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Constant
Overall bit rate                         : 61.8 Mb/s

Video
ID                                       : 257 (0x101)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main [email protected]@High
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 47 s 714 ms
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Writing library                          : ATEME Titan KFE 3.7.3 (4.7.3.1003)
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : SMPTE ST 2084
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : R: x=0.680000 y=0.320000, G: x=0.265000 y=0.690000, B: x=0.150000 y=0.060000, White point: x=0.312700 y=0.329000
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0040 cd/m2, max: 1100.0000 cd/m2

Audio
ID                                       : 258 (0x102)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AAC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version                           : Version 4
Format profile                           : LC
Muxing mode                              : ADTS
Codec ID                                 : 15
Duration                                 : 47 s 680 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 spf)
Compression mode                         : Lossy

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(2016-09-26 08:18)Ned Scott Wrote:  
(2016-09-26 08:05)nickr Wrote:  @mirror88 Zidoo has already distributed the object code, you are obliged to make the source available at the same time, not tomorrow.

If you want to continue to have Zidoo referred to on this forum, produce the source. This is non-negotiable and you have already agreed to it in utilising the source, changing it, and distributing the object code.

That's not actually true. Many projects prefer to do it this way, but the GPL only says that you have to provide source upon request. That request can be fulfilled in many ways, including using printing it out and sending it via paper-mail. While the GPL does not actually define time limits for providing sources, making source available within a day or so is generally considered acceptable.
The GPL requires the source in "a complete machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to be distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange"

(2016-09-26 08:47)Koying Wrote:  Indeed. IIRC, you even must be a user/customer to be in a position to request it, so requesting on the spot is a bit harsh...
I guess it's basically a rebranded RKMC, anyway...

PS That doesn't mean I'd have an objection to this kind of threads to be closed as out of topic, though, as those Rockchip devices will probably never see an official Kodi installed Wink
No the source must be provided on request to "any third party".

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The Rec.2020 sample does play properly on the Shield and Minix U1.
@hdmkv: if you haven't downloaded the clip by the end of the day, I can upload a cut segment from it later tonight (after the debate).
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Would you please? What's special about that Rec.2020 sample CNXSoft tested with? I mean as opposed to the one whose MediaInfo I posted a couple of posts above?

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Tested several BT.2020 samples (in MKV, MP4 and TS), and they all play well. Re-tested VP9, and as I mentioned in review, they play, but w/some judder (not completely smooth). With regard to Sony 'Camp' and other HDR HEVC 10-bit videos, CNXSoft is correct that audio is absent. mirror88, please look into this. My fault as when I did my 4K tests, it was late at night and I had muted my TV.

(2016-09-26 20:17)boblo Wrote:  Anyone could test DVD playback support (ISO / VIDEO_TS)? I think I'm not asking too much Sad
DVD menu shows up, but you can't do anything w/it w/native player. Directional buttons, OK button, don't work; stays stuck on DVD menu. With ZDMC, DVD menu is usable.

(2016-09-26 10:18)mirror88 Wrote:  @hdmkv
Quote:3D MVC MKV's not playing in 3D mode
I think We had solved it,Please check the PM.Help us to test it.
Much better w/zidoo_videoplay_1.1.40065.apk @mirror88, nice work! But, please check for MKV headers not properly indicating 3D. Maybe you also need to look for MultiView_Count:2 in the MVC MKV file. Reason I say this is because a couple of 3D MKV MKV's didn't trigger 3D mode, but when I remuxed them with latest MKVMerge, they all worked. Could be an issue w/MakeMKV, maybe a previous version. Don't know, as I'm an ISO guy when it comes to 3D.

The previous problem I mentioned w/MVC MKV's is still present however, w/video not being smooth. There's some judder (not present w/3D ISO's), w/almost a minor stop-motion type effect. Just re-test the 'Ruin' MVC MKV sample I posted in Kodi A/V wiki.



@mirror88, also as you requested, here's a right-eye first 3D ISO sample for you. X9S' flip-eyes function doesn't work.

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Quote:because a couple of 3D MKV MKV's didn't trigger 3D mode
Could you share the mediainfo?We checked 'MultiView_Count'.also checked 'Format profile'.Maybe some mistake(different makemkv version)
Quote:MVC MKV's is still present however, w/video not being smooth. There's some judder
OK.We'll check it

Thanks for the flip-eyes sample
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(2016-09-27 02:07)mirror88 Wrote:  Could you share the mediainfo?We checked 'MultiView_Count'.also checked 'Format profile'.Maybe some mistake(different makemkv version)

Here you go...
Code:
General
Unique ID                                : 299039920587668081875343396007972910024 (0xE0F8FE673B6C091CBE57E04637EF33C8)
Complete name                            : H:\New BD-ISO rips\XXXYYYZZZ.Filename-Masked.DTS-HD MA 7.1.mkv
Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 4 / Version 2
File size                                : 37.9 GiB
Duration                                 : 2 h 23 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 37.7 Mb/s
Movie name                               : Will Not Say :)
Encoded date                             : UTC 2016-09-09 09:23:01
Writing application                      : mkvmerge v9.4.0 ('Knurl') 64bit
Writing library                          : libebml v1.3.4 + libmatroska v1.4.5

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : Stereo [email protected] / [email protected]
MultiView_Count                          : 2
MultiView_Layout                         : Both Eyes laced in one block (left eye first)
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames                : 3 frames
Format settings, GOP                     : M=1, N=12
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                                 : 2 h 23 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 32.0 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 31.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.644
Stream size                              : 32.2 GiB (85%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : DTS
Format/Info                              : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile                           : MA / ES Matrix / Core
Mode                                     : 16
Format settings, Endianness              : Big
Codec ID                                 : A_DTS
Duration                                 : 2 h 23 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable / Constant / Constant
Bit rate                                 : 5 216 kb/s / 1 509 kb/s / 1 509 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels / 7 channels / 6 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: L R, LFE / Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: C, LFE / Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 93.750 FPS (512 spf)
Bit depth                                : 24 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossless / Lossy / Lossy
Stream size                              : 5.24 GiB (14%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No

Text #1
ID                                       : 3
Format                                   : PGS
Codec ID                                 : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info                            : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration                                 : 1 h 26 min
Bit rate                                 : 2 051 b/s
Count of elements                        : 186
Stream size                              : 1.27 MiB (0%)
Title                                    : English Forced
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
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Language                                 : Arabic
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01:04:43.671                             : en:Chapter 13
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01:17:32.898                             : en:Chapter 15
01:22:18.516                             : en:Chapter 16
01:27:45.593                             : en:Chapter 17
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01:39:50.901                             : en:Chapter 20
01:43:34.374                             : en:Chapter 21
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01:55:08.359                             : en:Chapter 23
01:57:21.659                             : en:Chapter 24
02:03:50.548                             : en:Chapter 25
02:07:56.710                             : en:Chapter 26
02:10:59.101                             : en:Chapter 27
02:12:54.091                             : en:Chapter 28

What's funny is when I put this same MVC MKV though MKVMerge, it triggers 3D just fine in X9S w/the test player APK you sent me.

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Kodi 3D MVC Hardware Options
Kodi A/V Samples wiki
3D: Intel D34010WYK w/Kodi MVC build | Zidoo X9S
2D: nVidia Shield TV (2nd gen)
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(2016-09-26 21:46)hdmkv Wrote:  Would you please? What's special about that Rec.2020 sample CNXSoft tested with? I mean as opposed to the one whose MediaInfo I posted a couple of posts above?

Hmm.. the file that I have is only 506MB ( BT.2020.20140602.ts). It is the one in the second link and cnx-software's cloud.
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