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Intel Kaby Lake Hardware

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Hi guys (and girls),

I just picked up a Celeron G3930 (Kaby Lake) and installed latest LibreElec (7.95.2 or so).

I tried to play a UHD HEVC MKV (10 Bit) but all I get is stuttering due to HEVC (sw) decoder.

720p HEVC is playing fine with HEVC (hw).

This is the MediaInfo of that File. Am I missing something? Further devices are Gigabyte H110M-H DDR3 (HDMI 1.4) -> Denon X4000 (HDMI 1.4) -> LG 65 B6D

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(2017-02-03, 22:03)dhjgv Wrote: Hi guys (and girls),

I just picked up a Celeron G3930 (Kaby Lake) and installed latest LibreElec (7.95.2 or so).

I tried to play a UHD HEVC MKV (10 Bit) but all I get is stuttering due to HEVC (sw) decoder.

720p HEVC is playing fine with HEVC (hw).

This is the MediaInfo of that File. Am I missing something? Further devices are Gigabyte H110M-H DDR3 (HDMI 1.4) -> Denon X4000 (HDMI 1.4) -> LG 65 B6D

Image

I think you might want try this build
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(2017-02-03, 22:03)dhjgv Wrote: Hi guys (and girls),

I just picked up a Celeron G3930 (Kaby Lake) and installed latest LibreElec (7.95.2 or so).

I tried to play a UHD HEVC MKV (10 Bit) but all I get is stuttering due to HEVC (sw) decoder.

720p HEVC is playing fine with HEVC (hw).

This is the MediaInfo of that File. Am I missing something? Further devices are Gigabyte H110M-H DDR3 (HDMI 1.4) -> Denon X4000 (HDMI 1.4) -> LG 65 B6D

Image

Stock LibreELEC does not support 10 bit HEVC hardware decoding yet.
Look at the builds in Apollo Lake thread they are only versions that have 10 bit HEVC.
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OOOOOk! I didn't notice that the development is still going on.

Glad it is that "easy" Big Grin

Thank you!
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Hi, anyone using a beebox have any issues with driver, im having this problem https://postimg.org/image/bs8g879p9/ there is a missing driver, iv installed every single driver but get a exclamation mark on device manager. Its related to the chipset i think, iv installed latest drivers but can't find solution
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(2017-02-06, 10:45)Infamous6622 Wrote: Hi, anyone using a beebox have any issues with driver, im having this problem https://postimg.org/image/bs8g879p9/ there is a missing driver, iv installed every single driver but get a exclamation mark on device manager. Its related to the chipset i think, iv installed latest drivers but can't find solution


Try this driver
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(2017-02-06, 11:26)movie78 Wrote:
(2017-02-06, 10:45)Infamous6622 Wrote: Hi, anyone using a beebox have any issues with driver, im having this problem https://postimg.org/image/bs8g879p9/ there is a missing driver, iv installed every single driver but get a exclamation mark on device manager. Its related to the chipset i think, iv installed latest drivers but can't find solution


Try this driver

Will do after work, Did u have the same problem too? Did u install all drivers that were available on their site
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Okay, so, the thread search tool won't let me search for "HDR", and 23 pages is too many to check each post by eye Confused so can someone tell me if a Kaby Lake NUC (or some similar device using a Kaby Lake processor but not necessarily actually an assembled-by-Intel NUC) can play HDR video or not?

I'm interested in both Dolby Vision and HDR10, but probably DV more so. I'd ideally like to get DV playback of Netflix. I'm also interested in rips of DV or HDR10 UltraHD-blu-rays, once they become a bit more widespread.

And any word on future compliance with Technicolor HDR or HLG? (I'm not sure if the latter is relevant or not - it might possibly be used by catch-up services like BBC iPlayer, I think).
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(2017-02-06, 14:07)Shasarak Wrote: Okay, so, the thread search tool won't let me search for "HDR", and 23 pages is too many to check each post by eye Confused so can someone tell me if a Kaby Lake NUC (or some similar device using a Kaby Lake processor but not necessarily actually an assembled-by-Intel NUC) can play HDR video or not?

I'm interested in both Dolby Vision and HDR10, but probably DV more so. I'd ideally like to get DV playback of Netflix. I'm also interested in rips of DV or HDR10 UltraHD-blu-rays, once they become a bit more widespread.

And any word on future compliance with Technicolor HDR or HLG? (I'm not sure if the latter is relevant or not - it might possibly be used by catch-up services like BBC iPlayer, I think).

As for playback Dolby Vision, HDR and HLG works but the metadata inside DV/HDR is not outputting, I can't speak on HLG as my TV doesn't support it.

I haven't install NetFlix on my device because I have too many devices that do NetFlix, so not tested yet
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(2017-02-06, 11:26)movie78 Wrote:
(2017-02-06, 10:45)Infamous6622 Wrote: Hi, anyone using a beebox have any issues with driver, im having this problem https://postimg.org/image/bs8g879p9/ there is a missing driver, iv installed every single driver but get a exclamation mark on device manager. Its related to the chipset i think, iv installed latest drivers but can't find solution


Try this driver

Thanks this driver solved the problem, it was the one driver i didn't install from. Asrok site, as when i installed a fresh copy of windows, this had already been updated to the latest
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(2017-02-06, 22:36)Infamous6622 Wrote:
(2017-02-06, 11:26)movie78 Wrote:
(2017-02-06, 10:45)Infamous6622 Wrote: Hi, anyone using a beebox have any issues with driver, im having this problem https://postimg.org/image/bs8g879p9/ there is a missing driver, iv installed every single driver but get a exclamation mark on device manager. Its related to the chipset i think, iv installed latest drivers but can't find solution


Try this driver

Thanks this driver solved the problem, it was the one driver i didn't install from. Asrok site, as when i installed a fresh copy of windows, this had already been updated to the latest


Don't forget to thank the userWink
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Intel NUC delivery postponed a week Sad 15th is new ETA now.
AppleTV 4K, LG 65E6 OLED TV, Marantz NR1606, Harmony Elite
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(2017-02-06, 17:20)movie78 Wrote: As for playback Both Dolby Vision, iHDR and HLG works but the metadata inside DV/HDR is not outputting, I can't speak on HLG as my TV doesn't support it.

I haven't install NetFlix on my device because I have too many device that does NetFlix, so not tested yet
Meaning, playback of Dolby Vision stuff doesn't work now but definitely will in the future? Or we don't know that yet?
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OK, ASRock BEEBOX-S 7100U or Intel NUC BOXNUC7I3BNH?

Same CPU, same memory and storage support, comparable LAN, WIFI and audio. On paper, the ASRock has the following advantages (no particular order):
- IR receiver and remote
- second HDMI port, as well as DP
- USB 3.1 (Type C)
(anything else?)

The only NUC advantage I could find (again - on paper) is:
- Bluetooth v4.2 (vs 4.0 on the ASRock)
(anything else?)

The price is practically the same, also they are both in stock at this moment. So which one should I buy? Being an Intel fan, I want to like the NUC, but is it really worth it? Will it be realistic to expect things like higher quality components, better durability and support from it?

I guess another way to look at this is to ask "which one is more future-proof". Being they both support same storage, RAM and CPU and none of the other components are really upgrade-able, it comes down to comparing the included individual components/features:

1. The one component I care a lot is the DP-to-HDMI converter chip, which apparently both boxes use to get HDMI 2.0. I guess the focus will fall on it. Do we know exact model(s) of the chip(s) used in the two boxes? Is it the same or different and if the latter, how do they compare in terms of supported resolutions, protocols, video formats, data rates, etc. For example, if it is determined that the chips are indeed different and let's say the one used in the NUC supports a particular feature that the one in the ASRock does not, then this would definitely tip the scales toward the NUC despite ASRock's hardware advantages.

2. The other item I care a lot is the picture quality of the HDMI output. And let's ignore for now the fact that ASRock has additional HDMI 1.4 as well as DP ports, let's focus just on the common HDMI 2.0 (4K 60Hz) ports. Should I expect better or worse PQ from either of the boxes? Is it actually box dependent, or does it depend on the CPU/GPU (which is the same)? Or on the above mentioned conversion chip, which may or may not be the same?

3. Driver support - even if both boxes use the same components, the drivers may make a lot of difference. Being that particularly the GPU drivers come directly from Intel, will the NUC have an advantage here?

4. BIOS features - here I expect the most differences between the two platform. For example support for legacy BIOS OS, overclocking, etc.

5. Cooling and noise - both important. Is the NUC better with maybe higher quality fan, heatsink, design, metal case? Or did ASRock got it better?

6. Kodi support - I leave this for the last, because I assume there will be no differences/issues here. Please correct me if I'm wrong because this ultimately might be the most important consideration
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