(2016-12-06, 00:29)phil65 Wrote: You probably have no idea how much effort some of our people put into exactly these issues, and how difficult it can be to take down random shit from the internet.
Also see this: https://kodi.tv/the-piracy-box-sellers-a...ling-kodi/
I am aware of that post, I saw it a few days after it being online.
I may have a relatively unused account on these forums, but trust me, I've been following these issues for a while now, and I know how much effort is being put in. I fully support everything you guys do, but I was simply just asking what you're doing, exactly. It would be great to tell the community about the measures that have been taken by Team Kodi in order to sort these issues out.
(2016-12-06, 04:48)DJ_Izumi Wrote: I imagine that Kodi rather lacks the necessary legal resources to launch a massive global search and destroy initiative where it sends off legal challenges against every individual distributer of 'Fully Loaded Kodi' in an effort to squash them so I don't think it's fair to fault Kodi for that.
Honestly, do you remember when Fake Beats By Dre headphones were popular in 2012/2013? Amazon, eBay, etc- they have all BANNED the fakes, in agreement with the Beats By Dre companies and their terms. No money involved. It's similar to the Flappy Bird fiasco- phones which had preloaded copies of Flappy Bird were removed from eBay as requested by the developer, and it was all good.
So why couldn't Team Kodi try doing something similar? I know its impossible to remove EVERYTHING, but its great to start at the biggest points of sale like online stores on eBay and Amazon.
(2016-12-06, 07:56)Djsmurf Wrote: I wonder if anything is actually being done. Like OnKz asked and I have the same question "Is your only plan to 'ignore' the piracy issues?" I don't use Kodi I have however had a number of clients coming in with reports of suspected botnet activity from their ISP's after buying "loaded" Kodi devices.
Now you see, this is the real issue! We have users who give a bad reputation to the Kodi name and say things like "oh yeah, I never got to watch the big game last Friday, my Kodi was playing up again, stupid devs never get anything right" when, IN REALITY, it's the users own fault for using Kodi wrongly, and blaming the devs for it's breakage and unreliability. It's the shoddy 3rd-party Addon developers who take credit for Kodi being able to play 'free live sports' and Kodi gets known to the general public as 'the app to stream free sports from'
We all know Kodi is not an illegal bit of software, and we all know that the developers of Kodi are some of the best developers we have ever seen working on any project, ever. (or at least, in my opinion, they are really awesome) But, it's unfortunate when your amazing work can get such a bad reputation by the general public.
But what else can they believe? I don't blame them for thinking bad of Kodi! They are educated in their own manner- Facebook advertising shows them offers for TV boxes with Kodi preloaded onto them. Facebook groups like 'KODI Addicts' claim to be 'official Kodi support' and claim to have 'the best IPTV services ever' and people join on the basis that 'Kodi = Yummy Free IPTV App'
(2016-12-06, 08:45)ironic_monkey Wrote: what world are you guys living in? kodi is free software - anybody can do whatever they want with it, within the limits set by the GPL.
There are no limits to the customization and open features of Kodi, but the developers should put some sort of anti-piracy measures in place. Not like some DRM crap, but they should have some sort of official way of installing addons. Maybe having 'approved' addon repos. Like the iOS App Store where Apple must approve all apps before being online, Kodi should have a dedicated Repo Center, and only 'approved' repos are allowed to be on there, which makes things safer and easier for all users. Other '3rd party' repos should be rejected, and users would need to manually add the repo. Then some sort of Blacklist would be awesome to WARN the users that they are using an illegal, unofficial repo. Just an idea. It's not a limitation, it's a safety feature, and it keeps Kodi's integrity clear to the user.
(2016-12-06, 08:45)ironic_monkey Wrote: all those devices run linux! why aren't linux doing anything about it?
Yes, all the preloaded devices run Android. Well done.
How does that relate to this conversation?
The operating system of a device has nothing to do with the software, or with the piracy.
And 'Linux' aren't people- Linux is not a person.
Linux is a collective project made by Linus Torvalds, with thousands of contributors all across the globe.
And he likes Android, because it's free and open source, just like Linux is, which is because it uses the Linux kernel.
You see, the idea I was talking about (Repo Center) is similar to how most Linux distros allow users to install software packages. You'd usually use something like 'sudo apt-get install' or 'yum install' to get an app from the repos that were provided in the distro already, and users are able to add their own repos, but are warned that they are not official. Like Canonical and how they manage Ubuntu repos.
And something similar would work with Kodi- but until then, the devs need to think about how this kind of thing can be implemented, and honestly, you devs need to speak to the community a lot more. It would be awesome to hear updates about the situation. EVEN IF the updates are negative and are not good news, we would still appreciate any kind of updates about the situation.
Again, I really love the work you guys put into Kodi. I'm only talking about this stuff because as a community, it would be nice to get some answers once in a while.