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2016-12-21, 18:22
(This post was last modified: 2016-12-21, 20:50 by DaveBlake.)
Thanks for posting here @mfsc where more people can see it and express their views than happens on Trac.
The question arises in the first place because Vorbis comments (the tags used in Flac files) do not have a defined standard. Unlike ID3 tags where there the standard tags are documented (although the use of TPE2 as album artist is common usage but not in the standrad), with Vorbis a tag could be called anything so we are left to establish what is the most common practice.
When I implemented additional tag processing to improve how Kodi handled classical music (that was my initial motive, I actually did far more than that) I took either BAND or ENSEMBLE as the tag for the orchestra or other instrumental group (trio, quintet etc.) performing the classical recording. ENSEMBLE was already a tag in general use, although exactly how it was used does vary more than I realised at the time, and commented out in Kodi code. As a role I gave this tag the text display value of "Orchestra" because this is what made most sense to me and fitted the data that I found. It also tied in nicely with those that use PERFORMER tag (with role "orchestra" in brackets). It is so useful with a classical collection to be able to split a mixed list of artists into the composers, conductors, and orchestras (and choosing what to play starts mostly with composer). While I would be comfortable having quartets etc. in my list of "orchestras", if an album was performed by say "The Lindsey Quartet", I probably wouldn't tag them as the ENSEMBLE at all.
In the dictionary an ensemble is just a group of musicians who perform together, so strictly rock bands are ensembles too! Maybe my take on this has been all wrong? I can see that it seems inconsistent.
For those that tag using PERFORMER = "London Philharmonic (orchestra)" the role of "orchestra" will be applied. My guess is that this will be how many users that have any classical music will have it tagged - it is how Picard does it. Maybe in v18 Kodi should change to process BAND, ENSEMBLE and ORCHESTRA (new) tags as separate roles "band", "ensemble", "orchestra", and then users can have custom nodes for "band" or "ensemble" if they want.
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This is something where I just for convenience use ENSEMBLE for Orchestra node regardless. For example I have choral works that typ credit orchestra, choir, and soloists (for these last I use TIPL).
When I rip with EAC and use the GD3 metadata database to tag it seems to fill the ENSEMBLE tag for pretty much every track. I just remove ENSEMBLE for non-classical, so it's sort of a "flag" for classical in my music library nodes.
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