Any user with hbbtv working?
#1
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Hi there,
Any user from kodi forum use this client with Hbbtv working?

Cheers...
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#2
68 - Read's and none post nothing ?

Ok means don't work...
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#3
It'd need a couple of things to work -

1. For the PVR backend (either Enigma2 in this case, or TVHeadend or whatever) to pass through the HBBTV data to the Kodi client.

2. For an HBBTV parser/viewer to be implemented in Kodi. Maybe a plugin?

I'm also interested in this as a lot of European channels now carry HBBTV data and more will follow in the next few years!
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#4
+1 here for this feature
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#5
Tvheadend supports it now:
https://tvheadend.org/issues/1711
Kodi & Tvheadend
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#6
Yes it gets passed through with the HTSP stream with TVHeadend now!

Ready for any future Kodi development to enable the feature.
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#7
Sorry to spoil your party, but porting and maintaining a whole blown HTML5 rendering engine/JS interpreter to 5+ major platforms (plus dozends of subvariants) is a project of its own - I think it is impossible.

I really don't get the HbbTV hype anyway. It is just a collection of clunky and unfunctional websites - terrible from a user perspective. Most sources can be accessed via add-ons already. Here in Germany, the content available via HbbTV is dwarfed by the content accessable through add-ons.

If something is not available via Kodi, create a request for a new add-on. This has a far higher chance of success.
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#8
(2017-06-12, 18:22)sarbes Wrote: Sorry to spoil your party, but porting and maintaining a whole blown HTML5 rendering engine/JS interpreter to 5+ major platforms (plus dozends of subvariants) is a project of its own - I think it is impossible.

I really don't get the HbbTV hype anyway. It is just a collection of clunky and unfunctional websites - terrible from a user perspective. Most sources can be accessed via add-ons already. Here in Germany, the content available via HbbTV is dwarfed by the content accessable through add-ons.

If something is not available via Kodi, create a request for a new add-on. This has a far higher chance of success.

Just to update this, I think while what you've said was pretty true back in 2017, in the meantime HBBTV has carried on improving and establishing itself. It provides a pretty good interface for catch-up TV, especially in countries like Spain and Germany nowadays. A good example of new and useful stuff is a feature on TV3 in Catalonia is being able to restart the currently airing programme by pressing yellow.

I get what you mean though about incorporating full HTML5/JS interpretation being a tough ask. Sad
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#9
My statement still holds up today. Content available via HbbTV is just a subset of what is available here in Germany.

The funny thing is, I had some prototypes back then, which allowed exactly what you described. With some scripts it was possible to watch past and future programs by selecting the EPG entries of them. A far better user experience compared to all the different clunky interfaces out there.

I've also written scripts which extended the EPG information (season/episode numbers, thumbnails).

In the end, the user response was underwhelming to say the least.


If I would have to implement this again, it would have to be supported in the core. I strongly believe that this would be a far superior and easy maintainable solution, making HbbTV defacto unnecessary.

I'm still interested in doing something like that, if someone wants to work on it.
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#10
Hey, guys!

Here one more thread on the topic: https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=141440

The developers just don't care - they are non-Europeans.

Good luck!
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#11
Actually most of the developers are European. See the post just above yours for why there is little to no interest in this...
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#12
(2021-05-26, 14:38)DarrenHill Wrote: ... there is little to no interest in this...

Really?

OK, let's see how many times it has been mentioned here:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=HbbTV+site%3AKodi.tv&ia=web
https://forum.kodi.tv/search.php?action=...9c16107427

Huh

Now, let's see the list of the technological supporters:
https://www.hbbtv.org/membership/#members

Highlighted HbbTV Apps
https://www.hbbtv.org/overview/#services

Deployments - Available Detailed Countries Information
https://www.hbbtv.org/deployments/

Music
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#13
(2021-05-26, 17:10)comanchero Wrote:
(2021-05-26, 14:38)DarrenHill Wrote: ... there is little to no interest in this...

Really?

OK, let's see how many times it has been mentioned here:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=HbbTV+site%3AKodi.tv&ia=web
https://forum.kodi.tv/search.php?action=...9c16107427

Huh

Now, let's see the list of the technological supporters:
https://www.hbbtv.org/membership/#members

Highlighted HbbTV Apps
https://www.hbbtv.org/overview/#services

Deployments - Available Detailed Countries Information
https://www.hbbtv.org/deployments/

Music

Unless there is a browser implementation in kodi this would not be possible. Prior to that happening there is nothing much that can be done anyway.
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#14
(2021-05-26, 23:55)phunkyfish Wrote:
(2021-05-26, 17:10)comanchero Wrote:
(2021-05-26, 14:38)DarrenHill Wrote:  
Unless there is a browser implementation in kodi this would not be possible. Prior to that happening there is nothing much that can be done anyway.

Hi, phunkyfish,

THANKS for your response and the explanation.

Well, I'm not a programmer, but is it so difficult to implement a browser - Chromium, Firefox... whichever?  Huh

THANKS.

Best!
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#15
Quote:Well, I'm not a programmer, but is it so difficult to implement a browser...
 
This is up to hbbtv to do the browser implementation, otherwise, there is nothing for Kodi to go on.
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