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**Memphiz** · 2018-04-08, 10:17

I think the jvm would need to be spawned as a process right? This would not work on iOS and tvOS for example because apps are not allowed to do so (it simply would crash)

**da-anda** · 2018-04-08, 18:10

I also see licensing issues (I doubt it's compatible to GPL, so we can't ship it)

mr_lou · 2018-04-08, 18:31

(2018-04-08, 18:10)da-anda Wrote: I also see licensing issues (I doubt it's compatible to GPL, so we can't ship it)

According to this page:
http://davy.preuveneers.be/phoneme/?q=node/28

It's GPL version 2.

mr_lou · 2018-04-08, 18:46

phoneME source code:
https://github.com/nikita36078/phoneME-android

movie78 · 2018-04-16, 15:35

So how are companies like Zidoo, Egreat, and Zapitti able to accomplish this on Android platform?

**wsnipex** · 2018-04-16, 17:03

with proprietary code they don't open and violating the GPL

movie78 · 2018-04-16, 17:39

(2018-04-16, 17:03)wsnipex Wrote: with proprietary code they don't open and violating the GPL

Understand, Vidon and any afflilate with Vidon was Banner from Kodi forum from not sharing thie BD J source, so why Zidoo is still in the Kodi forum if they haven't share their source code?

movie78 · 2018-04-17, 19:44

Will this help

https://github.com/zidootech/ZDMC/releases

Koying · 2018-04-18, 08:06

ZDMC just integrate the closed realtek system player with kodi, so no, doesnt help.

mr_lou · 2018-04-18, 09:55

(2018-04-18, 08:06)Koying Wrote: ZDMC just integrate the closed realtek system player with kodi, so no, doesnt help.

Slightly off-topic maybe, but: Is that a software or hardware (SoC) system from Realtek? It was my understanding that, while Realtek still produce SoC's for media playback, they excluded Blu-ray Disc Java from their chips due to Cinavia, because of pricey licenses (as far as I understood)?

Koying · 2018-04-18, 14:08

BD-J is software.
Cinavia is a low-level watermarking system, mandatory for certified players, to identify illegal copies.

mr_lou · 2018-04-18, 15:18

(2018-04-18, 14:08)Koying Wrote: BD-J is software.
Cinavia is a low-level watermarking system, mandatory for certified players, to identify illegal copies.

Yes I know.
But I've often seen that argument on various forums. Like e.g. why Popcorn Hour devices after A300 and C300 no longer supported BD-J, but having no problem playing the videos on a Blu-ray. "Cinavia", people said. Same goes for Dune devices.
So I assumed maybe it was a licensing issue. Because being able to play M2TS files doesn't require a license - so any chip can do this without paying The Blu-ray Disc Association anything. But as soon as BD-J is added - then you can't escape that you're playing a Blu-ray - and then you have to pay a license fee to BDA.
And when Cinavia was introduced, it became - as you say - mandatory in all players, and thus upping the license fee (I assume). So avoiding BD-J probably made a lot of sense from a financial point of view.

I don't think it was a decision by Cloud Media (Popcorn Hour), but rather by Sigma who made the chips.

I thought Realtek did the same, but apparently not, if RTD1295 in Zidoo devices is what handles BD-J. I always thought it was software that handled it in these Android TV boxes, just like Kodi v18 will.

U5tabil · 2018-06-13, 13:54

Could whoever created this thread update first post about current status for this? I am wondering if there is support for this now?

_novalis · 2018-07-05, 11:57

current status is 'wait for Leia to be released' and on some platforms it will probably work.

dcsmith · 2018-07-16, 00:07

If phoneme is a dealbreaker (Though i don't see why on android as it's gpl) What about androports jdk?