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#16
Thanks... would love to have @Koying's input here on S912 and what kind of 3D decoding to expect. I haven't been keeping up with S9xx happenings as there so many variants and gotchas, but looks like we may have some gems.
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#17
Yes its pretty amazing that you can now buy a AMLogic S905X/S912 and with some simple DIY - or that is not even needed in the case of the Vero 4K - get a 4K HDR Kodi platform with auto refresh switching and auto 1080p / 4K resolution switching that will playback High Bitrate 24p HDR 4K properly with HD Audio passthrough inc. Dolby Atmos.

Plus there is no need to manually fiddle with any Kodi settings all the time, its Auto everything. Set and forget.

And that is pretty much running a near bug free Kodi Krypton where all Kodi's core features work including PVR TV viewing clients with proper, reliable high quality deinterlacing.

Even 4K HDR playback on a non HDR 4K 10bit TV looks pretty decent, with no washed out colorspace mapping.

A lot of credit for AMLogic S905X/S912 HDR support goes to the LibreELEC developers @kszaq and @JohnGalt who did the AMLogic HDR Linux Nougat Kernel porting, bug busting and AML LE Kodi Krypton HDR integration. Smile

@hdmkv have a read from this POST onwards regarding a discussion about Android AMLogic Frame Packed 3D Nougat support.
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#18
Thanks for pointing me to that discussion, but it's more about using MP4 as a container for full MVC 3D (not possible I believe as @wesk05 pointed out). It sounds like 3D handling on AMLogic remains full MVC decode, but limited to half-rez output (not full SBS or full TAB)...
wesk05 Wrote:Amlogic Nougat does have MVC decoding and frame packing output (with amcodec, not with mediacodec). It is just the the output is not correct. It can however decode MVC and output as SBS/TAB 3D.
If so, still something with a cheap box being able to do 24p, 4K HDR, full HD audio & decent 3D via Kodi.
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(2017-10-13, 03:24)wrxtasy Wrote: Yes its pretty amazing that you can now buy a AMLogic S905X/S912 and with some simple DIY - or that is not even needed in the case of the Vero 4K - get a 4K HDR Kodi platform with auto refresh switching and auto 1080p / 4K resolution switching that will playback High Bitrate 24p HDR 4K properly with HD Audio passthrough inc. Dolby Atmos.

Plus there is no need to manually fiddle with any Kodi settings all the time, its Auto everything. Set and forget.

And that is pretty much running a near bug free Kodi Krypton where all Kodi's core features work including PVR TV viewing clients with proper, reliable high quality deinterlacing.

Even 4K HDR playback on a non HDR 4K 10bit TV looks pretty decent, with no washed out colorspace mapping.

A lot of credit for AMLogic S905X/S912 HDR support goes to the LibreELEC developers @kszaq and @JohnGalt who did the AMLogic HDR Linux Nougat Kernel porting, bug busting and AML LE Kodi Krypton HDR integration. Smile

@hdmkv have a read from this POST onwards regarding a discussion about Android AMLogic Frame Packed 3D Nougat support.

I just tested kszaq build on my s905 minimx, I can't get 3D iso to play in 3D, I don't have time now but in a few hours I'll move the s912 box to my 3D tv and test..
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(2017-10-13, 14:30)hdmkv Wrote: It sounds like 3D handling on AMLogic remains full MVC decode, but limited to half-rez output (not full SBS or full TAB)...
wesk05 Wrote:Amlogic Nougat does have MVC decoding and frame packing output (with amcodec, not with mediacodec). It is just the the output is not correct. It can however decode MVC and output as SBS/TAB 3D.

On Nougat, the procedure is:

* Working post process manager for 3D is needed. I remember on some older kernels this was borked; which is why Memphiz added support for SW fallback for 3D -> 2D. 

* Enable FP in amports
* Set 3D mode to ON (signalled with AV Infoframe). This is why auto 3D switching doesn't work properly under AML. 
* Set fp mode in sysfs (there's a bug here, because AMLogic thinks the VIC mode is the same; so it needs to be reset twice).
* Need proper hints detection so that Kodi sets codec to VFORMAT_H264MVC and pre-header feading works for amcodec.

(2017-10-13, 15:00)dukester Wrote:
(2017-10-13, 03:24)wrxtasy Wrote: Yes its pretty amazing that you can now buy a AMLogic S905X/S912 and with some simple DIY - or that is not even needed in the case of the Vero 4K - get a 4K HDR Kodi platform with auto refresh switching and auto 1080p / 4K resolution switching that will playback High Bitrate 24p HDR 4K properly with HD Audio passthrough inc. Dolby Atmos.

Plus there is no need to manually fiddle with any Kodi settings all the time, its Auto everything. Set and forget.

And that is pretty much running a near bug free Kodi Krypton where all Kodi's core features work including PVR TV viewing clients with proper, reliable high quality deinterlacing.

Even 4K HDR playback on a non HDR 4K 10bit TV looks pretty decent, with no washed out colorspace mapping.

A lot of credit for AMLogic S905X/S912 HDR support goes to the LibreELEC developers @kszaq and @JohnGalt who did the AMLogic HDR Linux Nougat Kernel porting, bug busting and AML LE Kodi Krypton HDR integration. Smile

@hdmkv have a read from this POST onwards regarding a discussion about Android AMLogic Frame Packed 3D Nougat support.

I just tested kszaq build on my s905 minimx, I can't get 3D iso to play in 3D, I don't have time now but in a few hours I'll move the s912 box to my 3D tv and test..

I believe you need a demuxer for that
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(2017-10-13, 15:58)Sam.Nazarko Wrote:
(2017-10-13, 14:30)hdmkv Wrote: It sounds like 3D handling on AMLogic remains full MVC decode, but limited to half-rez output (not full SBS or full TAB)...
wesk05 Wrote:Amlogic Nougat does have MVC decoding and frame packing output (with amcodec, not with mediacodec). It is just the the output is not correct. It can however decode MVC and output as SBS/TAB 3D.

On Nougat, the procedure is:

* Working post process manager for 3D is needed. I remember on some older kernels this was borked; which is why Memphiz added support for SW fallback for 3D -> 2D. 

* Enable FP in amports
* Set 3D mode to ON (signalled with AV Infoframe). This is why auto 3D switching doesn't work properly under AML. 
* Set fp mode in sysfs (there's a bug here, because AMLogic thinks the VIC mode is the same; so it needs to be reset twice).
* Need proper hints detection so that Kodi sets codec to VFORMAT_H264MVC and pre-header feading works for amcodec.

(2017-10-13, 15:00)dukester Wrote:
(2017-10-13, 03:24)wrxtasy Wrote: Yes its pretty amazing that you can now buy a AMLogic S905X/S912 and with some simple DIY - or that is not even needed in the case of the Vero 4K - get a 4K HDR Kodi platform with auto refresh switching and auto 1080p / 4K resolution switching that will playback High Bitrate 24p HDR 4K properly with HD Audio passthrough inc. Dolby Atmos.

Plus there is no need to manually fiddle with any Kodi settings all the time, its Auto everything. Set and forget.

And that is pretty much running a near bug free Kodi Krypton where all Kodi's core features work including PVR TV viewing clients with proper, reliable high quality deinterlacing.

Even 4K HDR playback on a non HDR 4K 10bit TV looks pretty decent, with no washed out colorspace mapping.

A lot of credit for AMLogic S905X/S912 HDR support goes to the LibreELEC developers @kszaq and @JohnGalt who did the AMLogic HDR Linux Nougat Kernel porting, bug busting and AML LE Kodi Krypton HDR integration. Smile

@hdmkv have a read from this POST onwards regarding a discussion about Android AMLogic Frame Packed 3D Nougat support.

I just tested kszaq build on my s905 minimx, I can't get 3D iso to play in 3D, I don't have time now but in a few hours I'll move the s912 box to my 3D tv and test..

I believe you need a demuxer for that

probably i still have Kerbers kodi 16 build in the devices internal storage, 3d ISO playback works there.. i dont think i want to remux all my 3D ISOs, i rarely watch 3D anymore anyways ;-(
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#22
(2017-10-13, 16:27)dukester Wrote:
(2017-10-13, 15:58)Sam.Nazarko Wrote:
(2017-10-13, 14:30)hdmkv Wrote: It sounds like 3D handling on AMLogic remains full MVC decode, but limited to half-rez output (not full SBS or full TAB)...

On Nougat, the procedure is:

* Working post process manager for 3D is needed. I remember on some older kernels this was borked; which is why Memphiz added support for SW fallback for 3D -> 2D. 

* Enable FP in amports
* Set 3D mode to ON (signalled with AV Infoframe). This is why auto 3D switching doesn't work properly under AML. 
* Set fp mode in sysfs (there's a bug here, because AMLogic thinks the VIC mode is the same; so it needs to be reset twice).
* Need proper hints detection so that Kodi sets codec to VFORMAT_H264MVC and pre-header feading works for amcodec.

(2017-10-13, 15:00)dukester Wrote: I just tested kszaq build on my s905 minimx, I can't get 3D iso to play in 3D, I don't have time now but in a few hours I'll move the s912 box to my 3D tv and test..

I believe you need a demuxer for that

probably i still have Kerbers kodi 16 build in the devices internal storage, 3d ISO playback works there.. i dont think i want to remux all my 3D ISOs, i rarely watch 3D anymore anyways ;-(

I am talking about changes to Kodi; not a need to change container type
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#23
(2017-10-13, 03:24)wrxtasy Wrote: Yes its pretty amazing that you can now buy a AMLogic S905X/S912 and with some simple DIY - or that is not even needed in the case of the Vero 4K - get a 4K HDR Kodi platform with auto refresh switching and auto 1080p / 4K resolution switching that will playback High Bitrate 24p HDR 4K properly with HD Audio passthrough inc. Dolby Atmos.

Plus there is no need to manually fiddle with any Kodi settings all the time, its Auto everything. Set and forget.

And that is pretty much running a near bug free Kodi Krypton where all Kodi's core features work including PVR TV viewing clients with proper, reliable high quality deinterlacing.

Even 4K HDR playback on a non HDR 4K 10bit TV looks pretty decent, with no washed out colorspace mapping.

A lot of credit for AMLogic S905X/S912 HDR support goes to the LibreELEC developers @kszaq and @JohnGalt who did the AMLogic HDR Linux Nougat Kernel porting, bug busting and AML LE Kodi Krypton HDR integration. Smile

@hdmkv have a read from this POST onwards regarding a discussion about Android AMLogic Frame Packed 3D Nougat support.

Things have come a LONG way since I built my first XBMC PC 5 years ago, and then my second as I couldn't get bitstreaming to work correctly with the first. I remember probably hours of fiddling with the settings to get 24P to work smoothly. 

I ordered the Minix yesterday, is this the best guide to use for Libreelec instructions?

https://forum.libreelec.tv/thread/5848-8.../?pageNo=1
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